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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision] * 1
    #21891067 - 07/03/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm all for the tar method personally.

I did it a few times and it worked great.

You just make tea and carefully evaporate as far as you can go - to a very sticky black tar. You can do it in a double boiler if careful, rather than waiting for it to air-dry under a fan. It's a pretty simple process but I don't want to go into detail, I've described it many times, and I learned it from somebody else here years ago.

Its MUCH easier to swallow a few balls of solidified tar than to drink the vile cactus tea, no matter how small the volume - the smaller the volume, the more concentrated, and it tastes even more bitter. You don't even taste the tar balls - you pop em and swallow with water like a gooey black multivitamin.



A tip - you can't boil the cactus for too long, seriously. As long as it doesn't boil dry, which would ruin it and potentially start a fire, the longer the better. Mescaline is extremely stable and can handle water's boiling temp just fine. Just keep boiling on med-low heat and adding water as needed for like 6-8 hours, agitating the cactus as you go, until it gets super mushy. When it's been long enough, let it cool, then filter the whole thing with cheesecloth (or a clean old tshirt) and then start the evaporation process with the liquid.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: drr]
    #21891101 - 07/03/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

why 6-8 hours? are you blending it before you boil?

I usually boul 2-3 hours, strain and boil down a little more.

Now I may be wrong but in my experience it doesn't need to be boiled for so long and most of the mescaline comes out in the first pull if you blend it.

I say this because I did 24 inch of cactus, was pressed for time and only did one pull. Next trip I did 24 inch of cactus and did not want to waste any so i did three pulls. Both trips were about the same, meaning almost all the mescaline came out in the first pull and the other two were not really necessary (although they cant hurt).


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate] * 1
    #21891221 - 07/03/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like to put the cactus in the blender, and fill it up with just enough water to cover all of the material. Using this method I end up with the perfect amount of water every time. Cooking time is a personal preference thing, some people like to boil the shit out of it really quick, some people simmer it over the course of 8 hours. If you boil it down fast make sure you stir OFTEN because you will burn it otherwise. Good luck!


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21892183 - 07/03/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I like to put the cactus in the blender, and fill it up with just enough water to cover all of the material. Using this method I end up with the perfect amount of water every time. Cooking time is a personal preference thing, some people like to boil the shit out of it really quick, some people simmer it over the course of 8 hours. If you boil it down fast make sure you stir OFTEN because you will burn it otherwise. Good luck!




Great advice Here.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate]
    #21893110 - 07/03/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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why 6-8 hours? are you blending it before you boil?

I usually boul 2-3 hours, strain and boil down a little more.

Now I may be wrong but in my experience it doesn't need to be boiled for so long and most of the mescaline comes out in the first pull if you blend it.

I say this because I did 24 inch of cactus, was pressed for time and only did one pull. Next trip I did 24 inch of cactus and did not want to waste any so i did three pulls. Both trips were about the same, meaning almost all the mescaline came out in the first pull and the other two were not really necessary (although they cant hurt).



You're probably right.

My problem at the time was that I didn't have a working blender to blend the cactus. So I sliced it into thin pieces and cut them up and boiled away.

I'm sure you're right that it happens much faster when the cactus is blended, and that is the more effective way to do it.

That being said it worked great for me to boil longer without blending the cactus. At that point, it's broken down so much that it might as well be blended.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21893274 - 07/03/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I would rather  drink a concentrated tea than eaat tar.

Just take a couple concentrated shots of SP tea and  youre good  to go!

But it takes lots and lots of hours  of boiling and careful watching (so u dont burn up your tea).



I agree I get much better effects from the tea compared to tar. It just enters the bloodstream a lot more quickly because it's aqueous instead of being a tarry solid. Some folks can handle drinking the tea though. I went through a period of time where I just couldn't hold it down. Nowadays I have very little trouble getting it down.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21893316 - 07/03/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tea is awesome.

Even thou its extreme bitter and nasty, the come up is very fast, within minutes of the first drink.

Just keep some strong tasty fruit/foods to chase the bitter.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21893325 - 07/03/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I find a sip of something sweet followed by a small bite of something salty works wonders. I've also had quite a few occasions where neither one was an option. One thing to remember is to wipe your lips and corners of your mouth off really well after drinking because that nasty flavor can just hang out there and haunt you.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21893397 - 07/03/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've also heard people putting a bit of honey in their mouths, rolling it on the tongue, then taking a swig of tea helps. Doing a tequila shot style sips with salt and lime could work too!


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: WindWisperer]
    #21893432 - 07/03/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Am I the only one who likes the taste of the tea? It tastes so green and cactusie to me. Very nice flavor.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate]
    #21894039 - 07/03/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Am I the only one who likes the taste of the tea? It tastes so green and cactusie to me. Very nice flavor.




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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate]
    #21894521 - 07/03/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Am I the only one who likes the taste of the tea? It tastes so green and cactusie to me. Very nice flavor.




yeah, im pretty sure youre the 0.1% Of the population That actually likes cacti tea :lol:


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21908143 - 07/07/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE:

It was boiled down to a large shot glass worth of material and did NOT have any effect on SWIMS friend that tried. Absolutely nothing according to him.

used a 9" large cutting because it's all that was left. chopped it up in a blender and cooked for around 5 hours. I'm not sure what went wrong. Possibly used too high of heat and/or not stirring frequently enough and allowing it to burn. also didn't add any water. pretty much let it boil lightly until barely any water was left and then squeezed it through a shirt and did it again.

Could cooking too high and not adding water before it all evaporated be the culprit, or is it more likely the dose? I feel like it should have had SOME effect.

Any ideas?


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
    #21908378 - 07/07/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP...have you thought about cutting up your cactus then putting the pieces in a dehydrator then when dry, grinding to powder?

then you could brew it in a coffee machine like coffee a few times. Then with the spent pedro powder, you can put that in a pot with your tea and simmer it down while stirring...then filter off the little buts and pieces.

when I drink pedro Martinez, that's how im doing it ^^ ...The reason why I am going to do it, is because I did it with mushrooms and it worked like a charm.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21908502 - 07/07/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What about juicers?


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: healing]
    #21908552 - 07/07/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haven't tried it, but it seems like a decent idea on paper :shrug:

I just know that what I said is tested(on mushrooms) so with cactus is would probably work as well


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It's just a shot away..


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21908997 - 07/07/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE:

About 4 hours after drinking, SWIMS friend wakes up saying that he is going for a walk and that he definitely feels something but it took 4 hours. He was definitely acting like he was on mescaline. His eyes weren't dilated at all though, which I know they should have been if he got a good dosing. He said it is very mild like the thought process of smoking weed and the feeling of being drunk without being sloppy.

I suspect he got too low of a dose and next time I should prepare him a nice 15" serving. So it did end up doing something, but still, I wonder if it was cooked too hard.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
    #21910845 - 07/07/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

has anyone else seen it take this long to come up?


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
    #21911327 - 07/07/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thats really weird. 4 hour come up. Cant be.

An hour come up tops, not 4!

boiling should be done carefully, not too hot, like a high simmer.

At 5  hours, u would have needed to add waater.


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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21911531 - 07/07/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm thinking maybe since it was a small dose it actually did start working earlier but he just wasn't sure. That's kind of how it was when I did a small one. When I did a good one it took 30 minutes to feel funny and 1.5hrs to peak.

I still think I need to do a better job simmering. I forgot about it and didn't add water so I probably "burnt" the solid that remained before I strained it out.


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