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San Pedro Tea Question
#21880448 - 06/30/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello there. I'm new here but have always been a lurker.
SWIM has boiled up San Pedro in the past, using a blender, straining the pulp, etc., but never long enough. Only about 2 hours at most. It was a great experience, but the thought of guzzling down that much bitter fluid again is a turnoff.
My question is, is it possible to boil it down to barely much liquid at all? I've heard you can get it down to a coffee cups worth, but I don't know if it works that way.
Furthermore, what would you do? I'm assuming just the same thing except you just keep boiling the darn thing for hours until there's barely anything left. I'm guessing the mescaline would remain and only the water would be boiling off, right?
Thanks!
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21880641 - 06/30/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah its possible, just keep boiling it on low heat to make sure it doesnt burn.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate]
#21880685 - 06/30/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes you can in fact cook it down quite a lot. The only problem with getting it down to such a small amount is sludge. If you want to get it to that small of an amount I would suggest filtering 2 or 3 times through cheese cloth as you cook it down, save the sludge for further extractions in the freezer like a good chemist! Also citric acid helps a lot with getting the most out of your extraction, add that at the same time you add your cactus goop. If you can't find Citric, which is usually in the canning section of your big grocer, use lemon juice. A little bit goes a long way!
I would suggest keeping it at a steady simmer, gas stoves are best for this, so if you just have a flat top or something similar do the best you can to keep it a steady simmer. However Mescaline is very resilient to heat, and is pretty damn sturdy. It will not absolutely botch your end product to boil it, but I've found I get better results being patient, and simmering.
If you want to go the extra mile go ahead and evaporate it off to a brownish black sludge, then transfer that to a cookie sheet covered in wax paper to evaporate it off further with a fan blowing on it. This is the starting product for a full ethanol/alcohol extraction for mescaline as the end product. You can just put the sludge in capsules, and eat them that way, just remember how much raw cactus you started with for dosage reasons.
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InDivision
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I think a coffee cup to a water glass sized portion would be ideal. SWIM can't beat to drink another half gallon of that crap. One good chug and done would be great. SWIM is actually concerned if he can do it again without puking right away as it's become one of those things that are just nauseating to think about, like when you get food poisoning and never want to eat that certain food for a long time.
I wonder how many hours this would actually take for a 12" though?
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21881005 - 07/01/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystallized ginger works wonders, eat it 10-20 minutes before ingestion. The multiple filtering process takes away a lot of that nausea inducing goop you get when you extract to such a small amount. Obviously it won't do much for the taste itself, that is what the acid also helps with. Also it's a good idea to drink it over a 30-40 minute period, no matter how tempted you are to just chug it and be done with it.
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Ah. That's the thing. The nausea wasn't bad at all. It was just difficult to swallow due to the taste. The mere taste caused a gag reflex. Once it was down it wasn't bad at all. In fact it was only bearable when mixing small amounts with chocolate milk and even then...blegh. 
So you think simmer the hell out of it for hours and then filter it really good and just drink the thin liquid? It would be a shame if filtering out the goop made it lose potency but I don't know if it would.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21881153 - 07/01/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Blazer420]
#21881177 - 07/01/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you aren't too concerned about how thick it is, just do one filter once you've simmered it down to a reasonable amount! I usually do 12-14 pounds of fresh cactus, simmer down to a liter to fit perfectly in a large water bottle. This way I have around 4 doses ready to go, I freeze it until ready for use. Doing it this way I have about a coffee cup of liquid per dose.
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Interesting. So the usual 12" cutting could probably turn into a single coffee cup dose. How many hours do you think that would take? It's gonna be done on the fly on a scenic vacation so hopefully not incredibly long, haha.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21881397 - 07/01/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It takes me about 6-8 hours. I bring it up to a slow boil to avoid it spilling over when it breaks down creating the foam. Once the foam is re integrated to a liquid I bring to a good boil, then reduce to simmer stirring often until it is down to the amount I want.
Edited by WindWisperer (07/01/15 02:19 AM)
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You can boil it down to tar and mix it with something, some people use flour, and swallow it without having to taste it.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: healing]
#21890848 - 07/03/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm confused about this.
Do you literally just keep cooking it until the only the left is dried up thick tar and then mix it with any edible an eat it?
I don't quite understand.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21890885 - 07/03/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no because it will burn if you do that. You boil it down until it is almost tar, but then you need to dry it with a fan to get it solid because like I said if you try to cook it down to a solid on the stove you will probably burn it.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate]
#21890902 - 07/03/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, so basically just boil it for hours and hours until it's thick and tar like, then dry it out with a fan. Then you just mix it with whatever and eat it?
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision] 1
#21890912 - 07/03/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would rather drink a concentrated tea than eaat tar.
Just take a couple concentrated shots of SP tea and youre good to go!
But it takes lots and lots of hours of boiling and careful watching (so u dont burn up your tea).
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InDivision
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I'm open to any suggestions. I'm just trying to get ideas as drinking the watered down SP is very hard to do and SWIM wants a better way next time.
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Edited by InDivision (07/07/15 11:38 PM)
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21890971 - 07/03/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm really thinking the problem last time was adding too much water and only boiling for like 2 hours if that.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21890973 - 07/03/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, i dont like watered down san pedro tea. Much harder to drink.
Concentrating the tea with 8 hours of careful boiling is much better.
The extra effort is worth it when it comes to drink time.
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: InDivision]
#21890989 - 07/03/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive read of people putting the tar in empty gel caps and then swallowing them. Also gel caps could be a decent way to store it/travel with it I would imagine.
However, I personally see no reason to go through such trouble. While drinking a half gallon of the tea sounds silly to me, I boiled 24 inches down to 8 fluid ounces of "tea" and I was pretty lazy about the whole thing. I mean I could have boiled it down even further if need be but I dont find it difficult to drink 8 oz and it does get slimier and more bitter as it becomes more concentrated.
May i ask how much water you are using to begin your extraction? You shouldn't have a half gallon left from only 12 inch if you boil for hours. I dont think I even used a half gallon of water to start with for only 12 inches.
And do you know the potency of your cacti because 12 inches might not be enought
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Re: San Pedro Tea Question [Re: Deviate]
#21891026 - 07/03/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Deviate said: Ive read of people putting the tar in empty gel caps and then swallowing them. Also gel caps could be a decent way to store it/travel with it I would imagine.
However, I personally see no reason to go through such trouble. While drinking a half gallon of the tea sounds silly to me, I boiled 24 inches down to 8 fluid ounces of "tea" and I was pretty lazy about the whole thing. I mean I could have boiled it down even further if need be but I dont find it difficult to drink 8 oz and it does get slimier and more bitter as it becomes more concentrated.
May i ask how much water you are using to begin your extraction? You shouldn't have a half gallon left from only 12 inch if you boil for hours. I dont think I even used a half gallon of water to start with for only 12 inches.
And do you know the potency of your cacti because 12 inches might not be enought
Probably used too much water. Just kind of added enough to make it blend. The big problem was not boiling enough I think.
I think it was 12" last time...and it definitely was more intense than expected.
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