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TheLoopIs

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A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow
#21878396 - 06/30/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1)How the F is this jar trek providing FAE for WBS?! Should I stray from using RTV and do polyfill instead?https://www.shroomology.org/topic/1828-the-official-no-soak-no-simmer-wbs-tek/
2) Why is my my turning blue and scaly? I mist heavy 3 times a day (but with really fine water particles)
3) My WBS seems stalled:( I shook up 3 of the stalled jars and kept 2 others the way they are. Should I introduce some sterile water into there?
4) Is that a normal looking LC?
5) do I pick all shrooms at once (even if they are not mature yet) when the biggest is ready for harvest?
6)Are those white dots on caps normal?what are they? Some of it seems to wipe off with a finger touch
7) I didn't do a roll with one of the cakes...when it harvests... should I roll it in verm?
8) are we in a matrix?
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Psilosopherr
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: TheLoopIs]
#21878493 - 06/30/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheLoopIs said: 1)How the F is this jar trek providing FAE for WBS?! Should I stray from using RTV and do polyfill instead?https://www.shroomology.org/topic/1828-the-official-no-soak-no-simmer-wbs-tek/
2) Why is my my turning blue and scaly? I mist heavy 3 times a day (but with really fine water particles)
3) My WBS seems stalled:( I shook up 3 of the stalled jars and kept 2 others the way they are. Should I introduce some sterile water into there?
4) Is that a normal looking LC?
5) do I pick all shrooms at once (even if they are not mature yet) when the biggest is ready for harvest?
6)Are those white dots on caps normal?what are they? Some of it seems to wipe off with a finger touch
7) I didn't do a roll with one of the cakes...when it harvests... should I roll it in verm?
8) are we in a matrix?

1) my WBS jar lids are just two holes with synthetic filters discs RTV'd over them. Polyfil would work too. self healing injection ports are a waste of time IMO. (they don't need much air at all I don't think, but it helps)
2) not seeing it in the pics. not too sure
3)dunno what causes stalling myself.
4)looks okay but there is no way to tell visually. it must be tested
5)personal preference. I usually harvest all at once, but there's nothing wrong with leaving the less mature guys until their veils pop.
6)the dots are totally normal. thats just how the caps are colored (freaked me out my first time too )
7) Yes you can dunk and roll after a harvest. Doesn't really matter when you do it. (have you read about dunking between flushes? it helps)
8) I think there's a good chance that the whole world is a hologram. :beardstroke:
9)thank you for doing the questions in a numbered fashion. good noob.
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TheLoopIs

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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21879186 - 06/30/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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whats the point of synthetic filters discs? If your jar is structured in this hierarchical way I'm thinking....
1)metal lid
2) SFD
3) RTV
4)Metal ring
the SFD just sits on the metal lid? its only site of possible use would be a double layer contam barrier after one pokes through the RTV? Where do you get your SFD by the way?
Thank you for your concise response and calling a me a "good noob" it made me happy and a reminder that I should stay humble even after trying to grow for a long time
in what song does NIN say... Everything's blue in this world, the deepest shade of mushroom blue? NIN is one of my favorite bands<3
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: TheLoopIs]
#21879282 - 06/30/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got my SFDs from a sponsor, I forget which. I just silicone small circles of them onto the tops of my lids instead of using the whole disc.
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: Inocuole]
#21879301 - 06/30/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You have holes on all 6 sides of your fruiting chamber? Are you running a fan in the room? If so turn it off. Misting to much/heavily can bruise the myc.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: TheLoopIs]
#21879331 - 06/30/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheLoopIs said: whats the point of synthetic filters discs? If your jar is structured in this hierarchical way I'm thinking....
1)metal lid
2) SFD
3) RTV
4)Metal ring
the SFD just sits on the metal lid? its only site of possible use would be a double layer contam barrier after one pokes through the RTV? Where do you get your SFD by the way?
Thank you for your concise response and calling a me a "good noob" it made me happy and a reminder that I should stay humble even after trying to grow for a long time
in what song does NIN say... Everything's blue in this world, the deepest shade of mushroom blue? NIN is one of my favorite bands<3
The SFD allows air in, but not contams. The RTV is not covering the SFD, its only around the edges to keep it glued on. maybe a pic of such a lid would aid your confusion as I'm not quite sure what you're hung up on.
The NIN quote is from the song the downward spiral:
"he couldn't believe how easy it was he put the gun into his face bang! (so much blood from such a tiny little hole)
problems have solutions a lifetime of fucking things up fixed in one determined flash
everything's blue in this world the deepest shade of mushroom blue all fuzzy spilling out of my head"
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TheLoopIs

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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21880565 - 06/30/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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But when I poke hole through SFD for inoculation the whole will remain and contam the WBS inside unless I tape it?!?!?!
I can't believe its NIN I'm listening closer to that song tonight
mushroom J- yes to eveythin, nailed it down to misting too hard thanks!
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: TheLoopIs]
#21880798 - 06/30/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheLoopIs said: But when I poke hole through SFD for inoculation the whole will remain and contam the WBS inside unless I tape it?!?!?!
I can't believe its NIN I'm listening closer to that song tonight
mushroom J- yes to eveythin, nailed it down to misting too hard thanks!
ooh right right I see your confusion.
You just open the jar lids and squirt your syringe in there. Or move up to G2G preferably.
If that sounds sketchy to you, check out this thread and decide for yourself. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20116427#20116427
I've been noticing a few songs with psychedelic themes in How to Destroy Angel's work too. (trent reznors new band with his wife if you hadn't heard of it. I really enjoy them)
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21880875 - 06/30/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah, yeah, I missed that. Injecting anything through an SFD would ruin it, just as you suspected. Congratulations, you're not retarded!
Either add a SHIP to the same lid as the SFD or just unscrew the cap, like was said.
I don't add SHIPs anymore because taking off the lid is a lot less risky with my skill set. Nothing I do can get mold spores off the surface of a SHIP if they happen to be there, and if a needle happened to push them in. I don't use needles on jars anymore but if I did I would rest easy knowing the needle touched nothing on the way to the grain. Don't even have to open the lid very far at all to get it in there enough to squirt a cc or so in there. Still air boxes ftw.
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TheLoopIs

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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: Inocuole]
#21883111 - 07/01/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck now I'm just more confused about this hobby then ever. Your telling me I can use my spore syringe on my grains by takin off the lid and squirting?! Crazy! haha
Im planning to do agar soon anyways so Ill give it a shot. What I never fully understood is using a glovebox is pointless right? Always do still air box so you can flame sterilize it from outside?
DO you guys use glovebox?the only actual application I can see it coming in handy is for G2G, as u don't need any flame for this . am i right?
How do you guys clean ur glove boxes btw? RR I read said to never clean them with alcohol...I do it all the times with no probs
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: TheLoopIs]
#21883136 - 07/01/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheLoopIs said: Fuck now I'm just more confused about this hobby then ever. Your telling me I can use my spore syringe on my grains by takin off the lid and squirting?! Crazy! haha
Im planning to do agar soon anyways so Ill give it a shot. What I never fully understood is using a glovebox is pointless right? Always do still air box so you can flame sterilize it from outside?
DO you guys use glovebox?the only actual application I can see it coming in handy is for G2G, as u don't need any flame for this . am i right?
How do you guys clean ur glove boxes btw? RR I read said to never clean them with alcohol...I do it all the times with no probs
I remember a trusted cultivator saying attaching gloves to the box does more harm than good. Most everyone will tell you to use a still air box.
I clean the SAB (still air box) with warm soapy water. (has been working better than alcohol so far) Contams will supposedly stick to the water if its still in there while you're doing clean procedures.
I highly recommend you read frank horrigan's still air box tek. It changed the way I use still air boxes (linked in my sig)
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Re: A bunch of questions/seeking advice on grow [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21883160 - 07/01/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rbalzer said:
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TheLoopIs said: Fuck now I'm just more confused about this hobby then ever. Your telling me I can use my spore syringe on my grains by takin off the lid and squirting?! Crazy! haha
Im planning to do agar soon anyways so Ill give it a shot. What I never fully understood is using a glovebox is pointless right? Always do still air box so you can flame sterilize it from outside?
DO you guys use glovebox?the only actual application I can see it coming in handy is for G2G, as u don't need any flame for this . am i right?
How do you guys clean ur glove boxes btw? RR I read said to never clean them with alcohol...I do it all the times with no probs
I remember a trusted cultivator saying attaching gloves to the box does more harm than good. Most everyone will tell you to use a still air box.
I clean the SAB (still air box) with warm soapy water. (has been working better than alcohol so far) Contams will supposedly stick to the water if its still in there while you're doing clean procedures.
I highly recommend you read frank horrigan's still air box tek. It changed the way I use still air boxes (linked in my sig)
^^
Glove boxes are neat in theory but they don't really work and I haven't encountered a single person in 8 years of growing who used one successfully. G2G works just as fine in the still air box as you *think* it might in a glove box, but better, because it's not a glove box. I don't care to go into the details of why a glove box sucks right now though.
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