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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21884992 - 07/01/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They held up obamacare aint nothing good about that.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: Algo]
    #21885009 - 07/01/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Correct. Obamacare should, and likely will, die a slow painful death. Either legislatively or financially.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21886821 - 07/02/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
I figured you both lacked the stones to answer.

Thanks for not disappointing.

Edit: Actually, z... m... k... the three of you repeatedly beclowned yourselves here.

Constitutional rights don't begin at state lines. They don't apply to some, but not to others.

They apply to all, equally, in every state.

I'm embarrassed for the three of you. Have the good graces to be embarrassed for yourselves.



I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.

Now will you answer my questions about polygamy and gun rights.  Because none of you seem to be able to explain why this reasoning doesn't apply EQUALLY to them. 

I am going to repeat myself for the daft who still don't seem to get my position.  I do not oppose same sex marriage at all.  I oppose the court imposing itself on the issue when there are clear legislative methods available and we were moving there anyway quite rapidly.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21886824 - 07/02/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Correct. Obamacare should, and likely will, die a slow painful death. Either legislatively or financially.



Either it will or we will.

My prediction is that when it craters there will be a huge push to replace it with commiecare


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: myc_check1212]
    #21886840 - 07/02/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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myc_check1212 said:
I never said , nor my position is that gay marriage harms anyone. I dont have a horse in that race. My position is that gay marriage and abortion should have been left at a state vote. That's it.





why do you keep entering your horse into the race


the 14th amendment of the bill of rights clearly states that all people will have
equal protection under the law, if someone in boston weds a same sex partner and
moves to georgia where their marriage isnt recognized, does that afford them
equal protection? the moment the states stepped in and started issuing marriage
licenses and regulating marriage and divorce, removing it from the hands of the
church they made it a federal issue


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21886849 - 07/02/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.




breathing isnt mentioned in the constitution so it's not a right


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21887090 - 07/02/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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zappaisgod said:
Where does that end?




Hopefully with all laws and regulations being applied equally to all citizens. Which is as it should be, though it likely never will be.

Granting things to 'your' chosen group while denying it to groups 'you' disapprove of, should never have happened. It's to our lawmakers shame that it ever did.

Note that 'you' and 'your' does not apply specifically to you, but to all who were OK with the unequal application of the law.






Funny how the supreme court doesn't see AA as unewual protection under the law.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21887241 - 07/02/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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zappaisgod said:
I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.




breathing isnt mentioned in the constitution so it's not a right



I believe it is since it is essential to life.  My personal opinion is that the government should net be sanctioning any marriages at all and the tax code should say nothing about it as well.

Now then, perhaps one of you intellectual lightweights can explain to me why the reasoning in this decision should not be used to impose Idaho gun laws on NY and allow polygamy


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: Shins]
    #21887244 - 07/02/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shins said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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zappaisgod said:
Where does that end?




Hopefully with all laws and regulations being applied equally to all citizens. Which is as it should be, though it likely never will be.

Granting things to 'your' chosen group while denying it to groups 'you' disapprove of, should never have happened. It's to our lawmakers shame that it ever did.

Note that 'you' and 'your' does not apply specifically to you, but to all who were OK with the unequal application of the law.






Funny how the supreme court doesn't see AA as unewual protection under the law.




They're getting there.  They agreed to take another case about it.  It is unequal protection as are all preferences


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21887373 - 07/02/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
I figured you both lacked the stones to answer.

Thanks for not disappointing.

Edit: Actually, z... m... k... the three of you repeatedly beclowned yourselves here.

Constitutional rights don't begin at state lines. They don't apply to some, but not to others.

They apply to all, equally, in every state.

I'm embarrassed for the three of you. Have the good graces to be embarrassed for yourselves.



I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.




Doesn't have to be mentioned thanks to the 14th.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


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Now will you answer my questions about polygamy and gun rights.  Because none of you seem to be able to explain why this reasoning doesn't apply EQUALLY to them. 




Again? How many times will this be necessary?

Polygamy is against the law for everyone... equally. Therefore laws against it would be constitutional.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21884789#21884789


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I am going to repeat myself for the daft who still don't seem to get my position.  I do not oppose same sex marriage at all.




Sorry, at this point 'bullshit' is the opperative word.


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  I oppose the court imposing itself on the issue when there are clear legislative methods available and we were moving there anyway quite rapidly.




nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

14th. It, despite your whining and kvetching, is part of the constitution. As such, the court acted properly and reached them correct decision.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: Shins]
    #21887377 - 07/02/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shins said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Where does that end?




Hopefully with all laws and regulations being applied equally to all citizens. Which is as it should be, though it likely never will be.

Granting things to 'your' chosen group while denying it to groups 'you' disapprove of, should never have happened. It's to our lawmakers shame that it ever did.

Note that 'you' and 'your' does not apply specifically to you, but to all who were OK with the unequal application of the law.






Funny how the supreme court doesn't see AA as unewual protection under the law.




It should. It's to their shame that they don't.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21887386 - 07/02/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.




breathing isnt mentioned in the constitution so it's not a right



I believe it is since it is essential to life.  My personal opinion is that the government should net be sanctioning any marriages at all and the tax code should say nothing about it as well.

Now then, perhaps one of you intellectual lightweights can explain to me why the reasoning in this decision should not be used to impose Idaho gun laws on NY and allow polygamy




Both have been done. Apparently you were sleeping through it which explains even koods kicking your ass.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21884455#21884455


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21887934 - 07/02/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
I figured you both lacked the stones to answer.

Thanks for not disappointing.

Edit: Actually, z... m... k... the three of you repeatedly beclowned yourselves here.

Constitutional rights don't begin at state lines. They don't apply to some, but not to others.

They apply to all, equally, in every state.

I'm embarrassed for the three of you. Have the good graces to be embarrassed for yourselves.



I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.




Doesn't have to be mentioned thanks to the 14th.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Quote:

Now will you answer my questions about polygamy and gun rights.  Because none of you seem to be able to explain why this reasoning doesn't apply EQUALLY to them. 




Again? How many times will this be necessary?

Polygamy is against the law for everyone... equally. Therefore laws against it would be constitutional.





And same sex marriage was illegal for everyone..... equally.  Therefor laws against it would be constitutional.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21888109 - 07/02/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
I figured you both lacked the stones to answer.

Thanks for not disappointing.

Edit: Actually, z... m... k... the three of you repeatedly beclowned yourselves here.

Constitutional rights don't begin at state lines. They don't apply to some, but not to others.

They apply to all, equally, in every state.

I'm embarrassed for the three of you. Have the good graces to be embarrassed for yourselves.



I went to bed.  Marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution and it isn't a right.




Doesn't have to be mentioned thanks to the 14th.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Quote:

Now will you answer my questions about polygamy and gun rights.  Because none of you seem to be able to explain why this reasoning doesn't apply EQUALLY to them. 




Again? How many times will this be necessary?

Polygamy is against the law for everyone... equally. Therefore laws against it would be constitutional.





And same sex marriage was illegal for everyone..... equally.  Therefor laws against it would be constitutional.




I was constitutional, but popular movements decided that allow men and women to marry and not allowing men and men to be married should be considered the same even if the church doesn't agree.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: Patlal]
    #21888134 - 07/02/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They aren't that popular.  They usually lose at the ballot box but they were getting closer and that is where the decision should have been made


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21888176 - 07/02/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
They aren't that popular.  They usually lose at the ballot box but they were getting closer and that is where the decision should have been made




More than 66% of the states agreed to gay marriage. Normally 66% is the cut off point for extraordinary votes. Therefore gays in these states were being discriminated upon


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: Patlal]
    #21888214 - 07/02/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When it got put to a vote it even lost in California.  Polygamy has a longer tradition than same sex marriage which is specifically forbidden in the texts that most people follow.  Why is it not allowed?  And why can't this reasoning be applied to polygamists.  And disparate gun rights from state to state?  What gives NY the right to tell  someone who legally owns a gun that they cannot bring it to NY?  It is unequal.

We were getting there anyway.  We did not need these peckerheads to invent yet another right.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21888244 - 07/02/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
And same sex marriage was illegal for everyone..... equally.  Therefor laws against it would be constitutional.




I'm embarrassed for you.

If marriage was allowed for straights, marriage must be allowed for gays.

Quit trolling. You're coming off quite buffoonish.

And before you repeat the stupidity you've exhibited by asking about pedos & polys, that's, as was pointed out before, is illegal for all.

You're smarter than this. I can only assume you were whacked in the head with a hammer.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21888272 - 07/02/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Then it must be allowed for polygamists.  I don't think I ever mentioned pedos.  I have repeatedly said that I do not oppose homosexual marriage.  I object to the invention of a new "right".  I oppose the court inventing new nonsense.  This was in the purview of legislatures, not the fucking court.  Apparently you don't think there should be any limits on their power.  The rationale you are using to justify this can be applied to anything.  That is my issue here and if you cannot see that even after repeated iterations then you are the one beclowning yourself.


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Re: I'm starting to like Supreme Courts very much [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21889191 - 07/02/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As poly is outlawed for all... you lose again.

If you are unable or unwilling to see that applicability of the phrase "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, you're trolling, lying or have recently suffered a stroke.

Whichever, I  weep for you. You've gone past beclowning yourself.


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