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The world is a mind
    #21876605 - 06/30/15 05:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Apparently there is a great discovery or insight which our culture is deliberately designed to suppress, distort and ignore. That is that Nature is some kind of minded entity. That Nature is not simply the random flight of atoms through electromagnetic fields. Nature is not the empty, despiritualized lumpen matter that we inherit from modern physics. But it is instead a kind of intelligence, a kind of mind."

-Terence McKenna

Is everything around us a mind? Have we overlooked it? Is Nature, the birds flying around, the grass growing, the sun shining, is it all the operations of a great mind?

I stare around my room in near-darkness a lot. It seems to me if I look at it a certain way that what is my mind and what is observed, are not different things. It is all 'within', it is all mind.

I am not interested in using this sort of discovery to my advantage, I am only interested in truth, beauty and the feeling of awe in the presence of genuine awesomeness.

But we HAVE just learned to see Nature as a mute thing.

Which is obviously not true to my experience - the sun comes out when I am positive, it hides to differing degrees behind the clouds when I am negative to those degrees. The environment around me seems alive, living. It responds to my states of mind, I don't think it is simply a matter of perception in happy states, I think the environment/world/mind around me actually changes as I change.

Is your house, is this room you're in, is it a MIND?!

Where does this lead us?

Discuss.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21877105 - 06/30/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gaia?


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21878332 - 06/30/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely.
Figuring out where its leading might not be the point.
I am not sure, but it seems more about trust in whatever is thrown your way - present moment, watching what unfolds with awe while knowing its just a ride.
Knowing this intellectually does not seem to help at all. Trying to do it does not either. We seem kind of stuck here. Odd, since we know exactly how, we just dont seem to actually really grock it.. or something.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: cbub]
    #21880102 - 06/30/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Terence McKenna further stated, "The main thing to realise is we are imprisoned in some kind of work of art."


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21881269 - 07/01/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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circastes said:
Terence McKenna further stated, "The main thing to realise is we are imprisoned in some kind of work of art."



That is such a great line.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21881289 - 07/01/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It seems that we are directly woven into reality; that there is no separation between us and it, that we are it, and we created it ourselves.  We continue to create it, constantly.  If all life came from one point, then we are still that same life, fragmented into infinity.  If the universe started from one point, then we are also that same thing, fragmented to infinity.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21882085 - 07/01/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am not sure if we are imprisoned in the world, or that it is the right word for it. Its more like, we are imprisoned within ourself, but that is what we are, it is not like there is an outside to go out to, so we phantom one, because that is what we can. imo.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21882607 - 07/01/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Whose mind is it?


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: Chronic7]
    #21883042 - 07/01/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yours of course:grin:


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21883504 - 07/01/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Terence McKenna further stated, "The main thing to realise is we are imprisoned in some kind of work of art."




To think what majestic wonder our museum must hold! 

:atom:  :stonedmelt:  :aliendance:  :tonberry:


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21883936 - 07/01/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looking at it as a mind is a good way to relate. Everything is fundamentally consciousness, our bodies are in our consciousness. Out-of-body experience are really into consciousness experiences. Ultimately it seems like a giant pantheon of consciousness that leads to a singular source (Big bang, God, non-dual consciousness, w/e you want to label it.) The one mind separated in order to experience? and Here we are.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: cbub]
    #21883951 - 07/01/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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cbub said:
I am not sure if we are imprisoned in the world, or that it is the right word for it. Its more like, we are imprisoned within ourself, but that is what we are, it is not like there is an outside to go out to, so we phantom one, because that is what we can. imo.




Yea, I see it as more a "game". It's the heroes Journey as Joseph Campbell called it. The journey of self discovery. If all the "enlightened" folks are correct, it leads us back to unphantomed experience.


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21890964 - 07/03/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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circastes said:
"Apparently there is a great discovery or insight which our culture is deliberately designed to suppress, distort and ignore. That is that Nature is some kind of minded entity. That Nature is not simply the random flight of atoms through electromagnetic fields. Nature is not the empty, despiritualized lumpen matter that we inherit from modern physics. But it is instead a kind of intelligence, a kind of mind."

-Terence McKenna

Is everything around us a mind? Have we overlooked it? Is Nature, the birds flying around, the grass growing, the sun shining, is it all the operations of a great mind?

I stare around my room in near-darkness a lot. It seems to me if I look at it a certain way that what is my mind and what is observed, are not different things. It is all 'within', it is all mind.

I am not interested in using this sort of discovery to my advantage, I am only interested in truth, beauty and the feeling of awe in the presence of genuine awesomeness.

But we HAVE just learned to see Nature as a mute thing.

Which is obviously not true to my experience - the sun comes out when I am positive, it hides to differing degrees behind the clouds when I am negative to those degrees. The environment around me seems alive, living. It responds to my states of mind, I don't think it is simply a matter of perception in happy states, I think the environment/world/mind around me actually changes as I change.

Is your house, is this room you're in, is it a MIND?!

Where does this lead us?

Discuss.




wow the t. mckenna quotes in this thread are impressive.

i have thought nature was all a mind for quite some time but eventually i became more interested with the question of whose mind is it?


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Re: The world is a mind [Re: circastes]
    #21891951 - 07/03/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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circastes said:
"Apparently there is a great discovery or insight which our culture is deliberately designed to suppress, distort and ignore. That is that Nature is some kind of minded entity. That Nature is not simply the random flight of atoms through electromagnetic fields. Nature is not the empty, despiritualized lumpen matter that we inherit from modern physics. But it is instead a kind of intelligence, a kind of mind."

-Terence McKenna

Is everything around us a mind? Have we overlooked it? Is Nature, the birds flying around, the grass growing, the sun shining, is it all the operations of a great mind?







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