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Re: ID san pedro/peruvian torch [Re: Miller619]
    #21891563 - 07/03/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Weight is issue with living cuttings imo. Dried material is good when you want to know weight.

If first trip isn't so strong, you know then how much to ingest to get desirable effects.

It's always quessing still. I mean how strong the effects will going to be.

I doubt that ratio number because if cutting is dehydrated, ratio to dried one is different and different cuttings and clones have different diam. Vascular ring even tho cuttings themselves have same diam.

I've measured one kilo fresh cutting yield anywhere from 10-100grams dried outer skin. Depends much about vascular ring and how dehydrated cuttings are. Older sections have most weight in fat vascular ring and those typically yield less dry compared to fresh weight than new growth.

Anyway, it's very hard to say from fresh cut weight and how much there is really outer dried skin you would want to make your soup.

I think that ratio number is approx ratio of fresh:dry.(?) ...I don't see that number can be used to different clones since they really may be same size and same weight as fresh but after drying another may have more dried tissue than another one. Even they weight same as fresh.

I know you can't know amount of dried skin based on weight of fresh cutting, it's very variable and alkaloid content(and weight of them) as well change the weight of dry material later... Only way to know the accurate ratio is just drying the plant without vascular ring. It's easy to cut vascular ring off. Some vascular rings are very heavy, some vascular rings may be slim and not so heavy than another cuttings have. It causes different yield of dried tissue later and persentage of alkaloids effect to dried weight as well. Even cuttings may be same weight as fresh and give very different amount of dried material, another may give more or less dried than another clone.

In that sense, it's easier to measure dose with dried stuff to know later on how much to take more if need. Or less, if it's really potent clone.

approx one ounce dried should be ok to test and you need strong clone to have "overdose" from that amount anyway.

I just have noticed that fresh weight doesn't matter at all when you dry the plant. Sometimes yield is very small, sometimes it's surprising big yield of dry material. I just don't trust anymore fresh cuttings weights. Especially if I am going to ingest the plant I want to dry it first to know how much there really is.

After all, my psychedelic use just stopped some time ago and I haven't handle those plants as dried for long time. But I remember those times when I have seen people dry the plants and so on... Fresh weight of different clones (or even different section from same cactus) may yield very different amounts of dry material. People used to cut vascular ring off before they dry their clones. There's different thickness of vascular rings, depends what clone it is and how old section is.

If I remember right, one section of ~1,5kilo branch yield only 40gram of dried skin years ago but it was very old section of plant with fat vascular ring. Same clone yield almost double from new growth tip. It was just because vascular ring wasn't so fat and heavy above the cuttings compared to base of it.

But yea, if you want to know really how much you have taken, to know later do you need more or less. You would want to use dried material with vascular ring removed to know later measure your dose to know do you take more or less later. Dried outer skin without vascular ring is ok stuff to use in that sense so you know later on how much dried plant you need to get desirable effects.

You can only know your dose by ingesting basically. Especially with clones no one knows their potency. It's hit or miss always. But with dried skin you can know dose of your clone later if you want to ingest it more.

But I stop writing.. This isn't plant cultivation text anymore.:nyan:


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Re: ID san pedro/peruvian torch [Re: BigHeart]
    #21901169 - 07/05/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I couldn't help but follow your advice and buy all the san pedros :laugh:
And I added a cool Aztec amulet :wink:
Now I have 8 Trichocereus sp. mescaline containing cacti, 5 medium sized (compare to the violin as reference) and 3 baby seed grown ones.
I will be a very happy guy in a year or two :wink:


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