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OfflineYaMoonSun
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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21948765 - 07/15/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty sure the smaller jar has a contamination. Well provide pictures when I get my iPad back.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21948981 - 07/15/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Damn man sorry hear. I use alcohol to wipe the ship the flame needle and stick the needle though the alcohol wipe and into the ship if that makes sense. My AA should be here tomorrow maybe I'll throw together a few more jars for ya wbs this time instead of rye.

Ive had 3 of my 20 rye jars contaminate. :shrug:


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: 2shoes]
    #21949078 - 07/15/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I thought it was looking pretty good with three out of four inoculation spots showing signs of life, but today one of the spots looks like it has another mycelium developing around it. I'm guessing trichoderma.

Also, thanks for the offer, but I'm in the process of moving and I don't think I'd receive it by the time it got here. Considering that I'll be staying somewhere else temporarily, I might not be able to do any mycology, asside from maybe some shiitakes or something.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22026192 - 07/31/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well, no luck as of yet with the rye. No signs of life in these jars whatsoever. Except a bunch of bacteria. Smells like rotting milk, with a hint of hazelnut..

..I do however have a cake that just finished producing it's 2nd flush. Think I can crumble to a jiffy tray? How do I prep that jiffy stuff? First time I've heard of it.

Poppy tea isn't half bad btw


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22027323 - 08/01/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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..I do however have a cake that just finished producing it's 2nd flush. Think I can crumble to a jiffy tray? How do I prep that jiffy stuff? First time I've heard of it.



Crumble the cake to coir/verm first with a cheese grater to increase inoculation points during colonization. Then once the tray is fully colonized, case it with an even layer of pasteurized jiffy mix. FrankHorrigan has an excellent writeup that goes into more detail, check it out! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18880716#18880716


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22027345 - 08/01/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
Well, no luck as of yet with the rye. No signs of life in these jars whatsoever. Except a bunch of bacteria. Smells like rotting milk, with a hint of hazelnut..

..I do however have a cake that just finished producing it's 2nd flush. Think I can crumble to a jiffy tray? How do I prep that jiffy stuff? First time I've heard of it.

Poppy tea isn't half bad btw




I use jiffy mix more for a casing. But you may have better luck with a new PF cake and do a crumble and case.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: 2shoes]
    #22028829 - 08/01/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If I crumble the cake (or multiple cakes) into a tray will they recover and fruit? Without coir/verm?


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22028857 - 08/01/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If I crumble the cake (or multiple cakes) into a tray will they recover and fruit? Without coir/verm?



I've heard of people doing this but that'll take a lot of cakes to fill up a whole tray. It's wiser IMO to expand it to a bulk substrate first, you'll get more fruits. :goodluck:


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22028939 - 08/01/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Can I spawn to wbs? I've seen giant bags for like $15 at Walmart.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029003 - 08/01/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Spawn TO WBS? Like colonize jars and then use WBS as a substrate?

In theory, would most likely be a contam magnet though. Also getting an even pinset will be difficult because leveling out a bunch of seeds sounds like a pain in the ass.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029013 - 08/01/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid: OP, I'd stick with the methods that are proven to work. Coir is the substrate of choice for a reason.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22029212 - 08/01/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll look into getting coir and a bag of verm eventually, they're both at the local Home Depot I presume. Otherwise one of the Lets Grow Mushroom videos had a near straw tek that involved a laundry basket. Seems doable. Gotta find a livestock feed supplier first though I imagine.
Also
Scoped a bit of perlite out of my terrarium where the spores drops, distributed it around the backyard in various places. Been keepin it nice and moist. Hoping to see some sort of progress in the next few weeks,


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029226 - 08/01/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

dont use old cakes as spawn.

edit; mix new cakes with coir/manure/straw as bulk.
and then optionally add a casing layer of jiffy if you want.


Edited by spacechildo (08/01/15 04:08 PM)


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: spacechildo]
    #22029247 - 08/01/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What do you do with your spent cakes then? I just finished my 2nd flush and one of them looks healthy and the other looks damn near bacterial,


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029255 - 08/01/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

garbage can.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029259 - 08/01/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

throw them out or put them in your garden. but they're exhausted, dont expect them to do anything special.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029263 - 08/01/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'll look into getting coir and a bag of verm eventually, they're both at the local Home Depot I presume. Otherwise one of the Lets Grow Mushroom videos had a near straw tek that involved a laundry basket. Seems doable. Gotta find a livestock feed supplier first though I imagine.
Also
Scoped a bit of perlite out of my terrarium where the spores drops, distributed it around the backyard in various places. Been keepin it nice and moist. Hoping to see some sort of progress in the next few weeks,



Coir is found at pet stores... Usually sold in bricks (sometimes loose in a bag)... It's used for reptile bedding. :uptosomething:


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: Darkhome]
    #22029387 - 08/01/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

YaMoonSun said:
I'll look into getting coir and a bag of verm eventually, they're both at the local Home Depot I presume. Otherwise one of the Lets Grow Mushroom videos had a near straw tek that involved a laundry basket. Seems doable. Gotta find a livestock feed supplier first though I imagine.
Also
Scoped a bit of perlite out of my terrarium where the spores drops, distributed it around the backyard in various places. Been keepin it nice and moist. Hoping to see some sort of progress in the next few weeks,



Coir is found at pet stores... Usually sold in bricks (sometimes loose in a bag)... It's used for reptile bedding. :uptosomething:



:whathesaid: Look for the eco earth brand, they usually have 3 bricks for like 9$, it's a steal!


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22029461 - 08/01/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sweet, I'll have to convince someone to go with me to pets co, thanks for the tips guys, much appreciated.


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Re: Got some new supplies to work with [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22029519 - 08/01/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd suggest you get into a PC before trying WBS. Stick to Pf until then for best results.

My 2 cents..


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