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daytripper05
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Alcohol kills far more people than weed does. It's a lot more of an intense intoxicating substance and it's damn near patronized by our culture in higher education. Compare the side-effects of a night drinking compared to a nigh smoking weed.
I'll wake up early as hell, feel great, no issues. With alcohol, I am hungover, headache, puking, can't do shit.
You are just out to troll dude. Keep drinking your koolaid.
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Shroomslip
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Then you probably haven't smoked enough to reach that point of no return.
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Mescalean
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21875516 - 06/29/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: I wouldn't consider weed intense.....
I would, shit can get weird...quick. Especially with a past that contains some of the "Tripper" alternatives 
You mean spice? Tried it once. Glued tot the bed forced to watch weird fractals. I only did it once. Literally felt like i was being held down.
Pretty much just proved my point about brain chemistry though. You are obviously someone who can't handle weed which is fine, don't take something that negatively effects you. Just like how I don't drink. "1 beer come on just 1" always gets a No from me. I also know I can not and should never fuck with opiates again. I love them way to much. I drink more than 60mgs of caffeine I start gagging like a mofo, which sucks because I only feel the effects over 150mgs... The human body is a weird bitch man. Honest statement for a the thread though, people can be allergic to marijuana. I've seen the puffy faces and swollen esophagus. I know plenty of people (so many welders its not even funny" that would vouch marijuana helped their job performance, something about focusing on really minute details. I only get it with certain strains though like diesels or green crack. I smoke and indica like I am now I am lights out. Also there is a huge difference in highs from dabbing to smoking. smoking i feel groggy and want to eat and take a nap dabbing way more alert high. something to do with the chemical cocktail from combustion vs vaporization
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Shroomslip said: It's only intense when it's new and you're a lightweight.
Weed would either be far more popular or far less popular (I can't decide which) if every time you smoked it was like your first time all over again.
After a certain amount of uses effects start to degrade, regardless of tolerance. I can quit for a few years and smoke some amazing crystal coated bud, and it's still nothing compared to the first time I smoked which was on mexican brick, and I know this from experience.
pretty much agree 100 percent
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Weed (THC) is a drug. This isn't a surprise. But I believe the medical effects outweigh those of it's pain-controlling counterparts such as opiates.
Physically addicting - no. Psychologically? For some people, yes. So are caffeine and nicotine.
But in the overall picture of things, it's very minor and doesn't not deserve to be made illegal in most of the world. Resources should be better spent on heroin and meth.
People shouldn't have to worry about their personal freedom because of a plant.
How many people had to voluntarily go to rehab to get clean from Mr THC?
When was the last time somebody sucked a dick for a gram of herb??
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21875521 - 06/29/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: ... Weed would either be far more popular or far less popular (I can't decide which) if every time you smoked it was like your first time all over again. ...
With a prescription for 5 grams per day medical cannabis, would not continue medicating if every time was like the first time. Chronic cannabis dosing mitigates the issue though, while still providing relief from pain, alleviation of anxiety attacks, and help sleeping.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Bill_Oreilly said: quitting marijuana completely was one of the best decisions of my life.
Are you sure? Because if we listent to the bulk of users you are missing out on
-enhanced driving -Curing of any cancer you may have -heals that knee pain you have been having....back pain too -100% fun times with no draw back
the list goes on my friend
Sorry, but there is no way marijuana makes me a better driver.
Howd McKenna not cure his cancer then?
only heals the pain for a little amount of time. Tylenol is no different.
not 100% fun times because most of the time im too lazy to go out and have those "fun times"
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I disagree as well, maybe it differs person to person but after only stopping for a few weeks I got high enough for to get awesome visual effects and was feeling quite dazed and confused. And before that I had been smoking practically everyday for 5 years. It was awesome though Cant wait to do it again when I get the chance.
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Mescalean
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: hillBill]
#21875585 - 06/29/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
#21875598 - 06/29/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Im gonna have to call bullshit on visuals from weed, maybe very very slight visuals but nothing that can pale in comparison to some tryptamine visuals.
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
#21875607 - 06/29/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Me either. I've been pretty fucking high at points. There are times when I've misinterpreted physical cues (meaning feelings) to mean something entirely different (as an example and a real one, when I first started smoking when I'd get really high, when a tingle and wind would combine just right, it'd feel like I was literally shitting my pants and I'd have to go and check) but have never had anything close to visuals.
Yes I just admitted I'd get so high I'd have to go make sure I didn't shit myself
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Mescalean
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21875629 - 06/29/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Me either. I've been pretty fucking high at points. There are times when I've misinterpreted physical cues (meaning feelings) to mean something entirely different (as an example and a real one, when I first started smoking when I'd get really high, when a tingle and wind would combine just right, it'd feel like I was literally shitting my pants and I'd have to go and check) but have never had anything close to visuals.
Yes I just admitted I'd get so high I'd have to go make sure I didn't shit myself 
"it's called the brown bomber" "why's it called that?" "because it'll make you shit your pants"
Most it ever did to me was make me extremely introspective/in my own head to the point of not talking at all, extreme couchlock laziness, or extreme paranoia. All from gravity bongs or those dicks that say "No, I pull the bowl out when I say it's ready" and just give you way to fat of a rip.
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musiclover420
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Errolscool said:
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Im gonna have to call bullshit on visuals from weed, maybe very very slight visuals but nothing that can pale in comparison to some tryptamine visuals.
Take a tolerance break and eat some strong edibles and try to say that.
I have straight up seen mandalas from cannabis alone, and have had many other varying strange "visions" and visual experiences.
I will admit the mandalas were not very vivid but were definitely present even with my eyes open. Closed and I could actually make all of it out pretty well.
Was similiar to many Tibetan mandalas which I thought was a funny "coincidence"
Another thing to try, take a tolerance break then take some harmalas and smoke and meditate. That should do the trick.
I watched a visualization of my heart beating while doing breathing exercises last time I tried that. I could see the blood pumping and everything.
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
#21875648 - 06/29/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalean said:
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Shroomslip said:
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Me either. I've been pretty fucking high at points. There are times when I've misinterpreted physical cues (meaning feelings) to mean something entirely different (as an example and a real one, when I first started smoking when I'd get really high, when a tingle and wind would combine just right, it'd feel like I was literally shitting my pants and I'd have to go and check) but have never had anything close to visuals.
Yes I just admitted I'd get so high I'd have to go make sure I didn't shit myself 
"it's called the brown bomber" "why's it called that?" "because it'll make you shit your pants"
Most it ever did to me was make me extremely introspective/in my own head to the point of not talking at all, extreme couchlock laziness, or extreme paranoia. All from gravity bongs or those dicks that say "No, I pull the bowl out when I say it's ready" and just give you way to fat of a rip.
Me and my brother did something like that with people on our steamroller. It wasn't against their will though. We'd made one that couldn't be cleared, or at least never had been. Everyone swore they could clear it so the drill was to let them hit like they would, which was always light and they'd clear it and say "Now what" or something to that effect and then he'd make them take it with him deciding when it was thoroughly milked. The second time around everyone always choked and I always laughed. They did as well for the record.
Damn I miss those days
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Mescalean
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musiclover420 said:
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Errolscool said:
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Im gonna have to call bullshit on visuals from weed, maybe very very slight visuals but nothing that can pale in comparison to some tryptamine visuals.
Take a tolerance break and eat some strong edibles and try to say that.
I have straight up seen mandalas from cannabis alone, and have had many other varying strange "visions" and visual experiences.
I will admit the mandalas were not very vivid but were definitely present even with my eyes open. Closed and I could actually make all of it out pretty well.
Was similiar to many Tibetan mandalas which I thought was a funny "coincidence"
Another thing to try, take a tolerance break then take some harmalas and smoke and meditate. That should do the trick.
I watched a visualization of my heart beating while doing breathing exercises last time I tried that. I could see the blood pumping and everything.
10 grams in medical grade edibles and all I got was lights were brighters like streets lights had mini halos kinda if you looks at them right. 2 hours in i got the best 18 hours of sleep I have ever gotten in my life. Just blackness.
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21875660 - 06/29/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalean said:
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Shroomslip said:
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Mescalean said: I have never had "visuals" from weed either. I feel jipped brain chem wise.
Me either. I've been pretty fucking high at points. There are times when I've misinterpreted physical cues (meaning feelings) to mean something entirely different (as an example and a real one, when I first started smoking when I'd get really high, when a tingle and wind would combine just right, it'd feel like I was literally shitting my pants and I'd have to go and check) but have never had anything close to visuals.
Yes I just admitted I'd get so high I'd have to go make sure I didn't shit myself 
"it's called the brown bomber" "why's it called that?" "because it'll make you shit your pants"
Most it ever did to me was make me extremely introspective/in my own head to the point of not talking at all, extreme couchlock laziness, or extreme paranoia. All from gravity bongs or those dicks that say "No, I pull the bowl out when I say it's ready" and just give you way to fat of a rip.
Me and my brother did something like that with people on our steamroller. It wasn't against their will though. We'd made one that couldn't be cleared, or at least never had been. Everyone swore they could clear it so the drill was to let them hit like they would, which was always light and they'd clear it and say "Now what" or something to that effect and then he'd make them take it with him deciding when it was thoroughly milked. The second time around everyone always choked and I always laughed. They did as well for the record.
Damn I miss those days 
and yeah my mind just shot back to soph year around this friends fire pit in his moms backyard. i remember one kid got so high he grabbed his legs looked at them squeezed and just started screaming top of his lungs saying they "burned" i loled so fucking hard i was crying
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
#21875661 - 06/29/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tolerance though?
Using cannabis regularly ruins the magic of it.
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u're way behind op, get with the program. everybody already knows that.
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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: zZZz]
#21875756 - 06/29/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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marijuan kicks in instantaneously for people and doesn't have many side effects
so that beats out most negatives and substitutes for most people
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weed made me OK with sitting around and doing nothing with myself
when I should/could of been out creating new experiences and meeting new people, I was getting stoned and watching always sunny (great show btw) it made me numb
so many wasted years lol
it's really not funny, but there's nothing else to do but laugh about it
just glad I caught myself before I woke up at like 30 years old and still couch locked I would probably kill myself if that happened
great in small doses I guess, but I can't do it anymore
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Almond Flour said: Can you scrubs just fucking admit that Marijuana is a drug, it is addictive, and YES It does have side effects.
marijuana is a plant, it contains a number of drugs that we could refer to as drugs or as alkaloids, it's the same way we refer to a poppy as a plant but the opium as a drug or an alkaloid
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Will it kill you? No, but to act like its the best thing since sliced bread, has zero negatives, and enhances your driving while curing your cancer at the same time is a JOKE.
oh, apparently is can be lethal for some, so far there have been 3 cases documented in which people have suffered from heart failure that wouldnt have been triggered had it not been for smoking weed and while so many here will say it wasnt the weed but a bad heart... well duh, but the weed was the trigger
so yeah, marijuana is a plant, the plant like pretty much every fucking plant on earth contains a drug, you know, like Cocao, Coffee, Kaht, Kratom, Peyote
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