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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21874994 - 06/29/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
quitting marijuana completely was one of the best decisions of my life.



Honestly i see weed downgrade people alot

including me

Lately though ive been smoking less
and ive been excersisng

so im doing much better :smile:


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21874999 - 06/29/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah problem marijuana use is definitely not a rarity. People will argue to the death that it doesn't meet some cherry-picked "technical" definition of addiction though. Whatever you want to call it, there are many people who have a detrimental relationship with it (myself included.)


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21875002 - 06/29/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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In the process of quitting right now. I want a clear head again. And more dreams




Yes! The dreams come back so vividly when you stop smoking weed.
It's very nice, but I much rather smoke a bowl after a hard day working than remembering my dreams.

There's many days where I don't smoke at all, and my dreams will come back within 24 hours of not smoking...


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: SunnyD] * 1
    #21875003 - 06/29/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cannabis is hella fun to grow. I enjoy growing it more than I enjoy smoking it.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21875006 - 06/29/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yal can all have my dreams if you want them so bad.. I have almost nothing but nightmares. I'd consider not remembering dreams a plus.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21875010 - 06/29/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh i cant wait for my first grow
i plan to have it legal

if not

no one will know :wink:


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: psi]
    #21875020 - 06/29/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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psi said:
Yeah problem marijuana use is definitely not a rarity. People will argue to the death that it doesn't meet some cherry-picked "technical" definition of addiction though. Whatever you want to call it, there are many people who have a detrimental relationship with it (myself included.)




I couldn't agree with you more.
I don't understand people that say it's habitual but not addicting as if that makes a difference because of wording.

Of course it's addictive to a small degree since when I stop I become rather bored with life unless I'm constantly keeping busy. Fortunately that boredom goes away very quickly and there are no real physical withdrawals to speak of.

I still love to smoke, but have cut down so much over the last few years.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21875042 - 06/29/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

AS long as I don't smoke right before I go to sleep I still have dreams, though maybe not as vivid. Having been sober these last couple weeks due to legal reasons I definitely look forward to dreaming each night.  No one I know is tryin to portray at as a miracle drug,  but is certainly one of my favorite ways to get high :rasta: :grin:


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21875113 - 06/29/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP would you say weed abuse is subjective to the person? Because Personally I work 40-60 hours a week depending on how busy( i work for a legal medical marijuana provider for a legitimate state licensed dispensary.) Because before work It's 2-3 dabs before im out the door in the morning... I used to smoke before football practice. Personally I felt it helps me focus in on my surroundings and what was going on around me (linebacker, needed to react to sight not the cadence.) 2 dabs before my full body workout today today. I'm 6'1 218 as of last weeks weigh in and personally I attribute a lot of my muscle mass to my smoking. Not because of weed directly, but I definitely would not be able to intake the calories I do without it... The heavy indicas also help my mind stop racing at night.

Your first post came off a little hostile toward the drug (it's a drug it effects the mind). Personally how I would put it is some people can't handle weed, although it may be few and far between it goes the same for any drug really. Some people can have a few drinks and be fine, some people turn into raging alcoholics. Personally I think if weed makes someone "lazy" or behave like a loser. Then they are already predisposition to be a lazy sack of shit and should just stay away from it. Alcoholism in your family? Stay away from that? Uncle liked coke waaaaayyyyy to much? You may too! It helps far far far more people than it hurts (if any considering the lazy ones hurt themselves really, blaming the weed is a pathetic crutch)


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
    #21875168 - 06/29/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mescalean said:
OP would you say weed abuse is subjective to the person? Because Personally I work 40-60 hours a week depending on how busy( i work for a legal medical marijuana provider for a legitimate state licensed dispensary.) Because before work It's 2-3 dabs before im out the door in the morning... I used to smoke before football practice. Personally I felt it helps me focus in on my surroundings and what was going on around me (linebacker, needed to react to sight not the cadence.) 2 dabs before my full body workout today today. I'm 6'1 218 as of last weeks weigh in and personally I attribute a lot of my muscle mass to my smoking. Not because of weed directly, but I definitely would not be able to intake the calories I do without it... The heavy indicas also help my mind stop racing at night.

Your first post came off a little hostile toward the drug (it's a drug it effects the mind). Personally how I would put it is some people can't handle weed, although it may be few and far between it goes the same for any drug really. Some people can have a few drinks and be fine, some people turn into raging alcoholics. Personally I think if weed makes someone "lazy" or behave like a loser. Then they are already predisposition to be a lazy sack of shit and should just stay away from it. Alcoholism in your family? Stay away from that? Uncle liked coke waaaaayyyyy to much? You may too! It helps far far far more people than it hurts (if any considering the lazy ones hurt themselves really, blaming the weed is a pathetic crutch)




I hear what you are saying, but consider this. I work at a brewery, and yet I dont start my day with a few shots of vodka or a couple douple IPA's.

Just because you CAN do something, does it mean you should? Or that its beneficial for you? If you can accomplish all that shit while high. How much more so could you without it.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: hillBill]
    #21875178 - 06/29/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's been a miracle drug for me as far as treatment of anxiety. Not the whole plant itself, but its isolated CBD.

Dealing with severe anxiety for over 5 years I thought I wouldn't ever find a natural way to deal with it, as I refuse to go on SSRI's or Benzos on a daily basis.

I've been vaporizing CBD extract suspended in a vegetable glycerin solution for about a month now, and it's just done wonders. I haven't felt like this since before I started getting panic attacks years ago.

The psychoactive compound, THC might not have much medicinal value but it sure has a whole lot of fun recreational value that many of us enjoy. When coupled with CBD/CBN, yes it's a medicinal miracle with fun attached. :jah:


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21875186 - 06/29/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

kr0nik0 said:
It's been a miracle drug for me as far as treatment of anxiety. Not the whole plant itself, but its isolated CBD.

Dealing with severe anxiety for over 5 years I thought I wouldn't ever find a natural way to deal with it, as I refuse to go on SSRI's or Benzos on a daily basis.

I've been vaporizing CBD extract suspended in a vegetable glycerin solution for about a month now, and it's just done wonders. I haven't felt like this since before I started getting panic attacks years ago.

The psychoactive compound, THC might not have much medicinal value but it sure has a whole lot of fun recreational value that many of us enjoy. When coupled with CBD/CBN, yes it's a medicinal miracle with fun attached. :jah:



And I agree, but thats not what this thread is about. I am not anti marijuana even though I do not smoke it these days. BUt what I am saying is perhaps an honest discussion around it wouldnt hurt. HONEST discussion.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21875208 - 06/29/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Marijuana is a drug and has some downsides along with many upsides. It does relieve pain, help with sleep, and helps prevent alzheimers, cancer and other conditions. With over use it can take away motivation. It does not kill like alcohol does or many other drugs. Why is it you don't rant against alcohol? Or meth, or heroin, or flakka, or crack, or some others?


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21875212 - 06/29/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Almond Flour said:
Quote:

Mescalean said:
OP would you say weed abuse is subjective to the person? Because Personally I work 40-60 hours a week depending on how busy( i work for a legal medical marijuana provider for a legitimate state licensed dispensary.) Because before work It's 2-3 dabs before im out the door in the morning... I used to smoke before football practice. Personally I felt it helps me focus in on my surroundings and what was going on around me (linebacker, needed to react to sight not the cadence.) 2 dabs before my full body workout today today. I'm 6'1 218 as of last weeks weigh in and personally I attribute a lot of my muscle mass to my smoking. Not because of weed directly, but I definitely would not be able to intake the calories I do without it... The heavy indicas also help my mind stop racing at night.

Your first post came off a little hostile toward the drug (it's a drug it effects the mind). Personally how I would put it is some people can't handle weed, although it may be few and far between it goes the same for any drug really. Some people can have a few drinks and be fine, some people turn into raging alcoholics. Personally I think if weed makes someone "lazy" or behave like a loser. Then they are already predisposition to be a lazy sack of shit and should just stay away from it. Alcoholism in your family? Stay away from that? Uncle liked coke waaaaayyyyy to much? You may too! It helps far far far more people than it hurts (if any considering the lazy ones hurt themselves really, blaming the weed is a pathetic crutch)




I hear what you are saying, but consider this. I work at a brewery, and yet I dont start my day with a few shots of vodka or a couple douple IPA's.

Just because you CAN do something, does it mean you should? Or that its beneficial for you? If you can accomplish all that shit while high. How much more so could you without it.




Lol your comparing 2 totally different drugs, one that declines health and one that shows actual health benefits. 100 percent without a doubt people can function better while high than tipsy or drunk. That argument is null.


I hear your point about potential without it, but how drugs effect everyone differently I think your confusing your personal experience with weed and being unproductive and my experience with weed. My experience thus far in life has been incredible focus/attention problems besides anything physical (shrink said something about how ADD people tend to go more towards the physical because of dat der dopamine release) My boss encourages me to smoke especially on trim days. Harvest days little bit of caffeine with the bud and im a machine. My mind doesn't focus on a million things not related to work but for instance when harvest all that runs around in it is "snatch that leaf that one that one" just at rapid fire. Pretty fuckin fast compared to alot of the others who work there.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
    #21875218 - 06/29/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And as honest as the discussion can really get almond is it's just not for everyone. Kind of like how I love whole milk but give that shit to a lactose intolerant kid.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Mescalean]
    #21875231 - 06/29/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mescalean said:
Quote:

Almond Flour said:
Quote:

Mescalean said:
OP would you say weed abuse is subjective to the person? Because Personally I work 40-60 hours a week depending on how busy( i work for a legal medical marijuana provider for a legitimate state licensed dispensary.) Because before work It's 2-3 dabs before im out the door in the morning... I used to smoke before football practice. Personally I felt it helps me focus in on my surroundings and what was going on around me (linebacker, needed to react to sight not the cadence.) 2 dabs before my full body workout today today. I'm 6'1 218 as of last weeks weigh in and personally I attribute a lot of my muscle mass to my smoking. Not because of weed directly, but I definitely would not be able to intake the calories I do without it... The heavy indicas also help my mind stop racing at night.

Your first post came off a little hostile toward the drug (it's a drug it effects the mind). Personally how I would put it is some people can't handle weed, although it may be few and far between it goes the same for any drug really. Some people can have a few drinks and be fine, some people turn into raging alcoholics. Personally I think if weed makes someone "lazy" or behave like a loser. Then they are already predisposition to be a lazy sack of shit and should just stay away from it. Alcoholism in your family? Stay away from that? Uncle liked coke waaaaayyyyy to much? You may too! It helps far far far more people than it hurts (if any considering the lazy ones hurt themselves really, blaming the weed is a pathetic crutch)




I hear what you are saying, but consider this. I work at a brewery, and yet I dont start my day with a few shots of vodka or a couple douple IPA's.

Just because you CAN do something, does it mean you should? Or that its beneficial for you? If you can accomplish all that shit while high. How much more so could you without it.




Lol your comparing 2 totally different drugs, one that declines health and one that shows actual health benefits. 100 percent without a doubt people can function better while high than tipsy or drunk. That argument is null.


I hear your point about potential without it, but how drugs effect everyone differently I think your confusing your personal experience with weed and being unproductive and my experience with weed. My experience thus far in life has been incredible focus/attention problems besides anything physical (shrink said something about how ADD people tend to go more towards the physical because of dat der dopamine release) My boss encourages me to smoke especially on trim days. Harvest days little bit of caffeine with the bud and im a machine. My mind doesn't focus on a million things not related to work but for instance when harvest all that runs around in it is "snatch that leaf that one that one" just at rapid fire. Pretty fuckin fast compared to alot of the others who work there.



Absolute bullshit and a prime example of what this thread is all about. Thank you for posting


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21875232 - 06/29/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

nicechrisman said:
Yes marijuana=H2O




As OP said regarding marijuana:

Quote:

Almond Flour said:
...Will it kill you? No,...




marijuana can't be H2O.

H2O will kill you if you are not careful.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/water-intoxication-just-how-much-h2o-does-it-take-kill-person-312958
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It takes about 6 liters of water to kill a 165-pound person, according to a YouTube video recently released by the American Chemistry Society. Surprisingly, death by water, or water intoxication as it’s officially known, happens quite a lot.




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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21875237 - 06/29/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
Marijuana is a drug and has some downsides along with many upsides. It does relieve pain, help with sleep, and helps prevent alzheimers, cancer and other conditions. With over use it can take away motivation. It does not kill like alcohol does or many other drugs. Why is it you don't rant against alcohol? Or meth, or heroin, or flakka, or crack, or some others?



What on earth is flakka if I may ask?
We all know alcohol takes a huge toll on the body. It's not like it's a surprise.
I feel like you're one of these people AF is talking about. It's just kinda ignorant to say that weed is such a great drug.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21875238 - 06/29/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's interesting, when you hang out at a place long enough you can watch people's emotion's fluctuate like a wave over time throughout their posts. I hope all is well in everyone's world tonight.


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Re: Does Marijuana = H20? [Re: Almond Flour] * 1
    #21875239 - 06/29/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Almond Flour said:
Quote:

kr0nik0 said:
It's been a miracle drug for me as far as treatment of anxiety. Not the whole plant itself, but its isolated CBD.

Dealing with severe anxiety for over 5 years I thought I wouldn't ever find a natural way to deal with it, as I refuse to go on SSRI's or Benzos on a daily basis.

I've been vaporizing CBD extract suspended in a vegetable glycerin solution for about a month now, and it's just done wonders. I haven't felt like this since before I started getting panic attacks years ago.

The psychoactive compound, THC might not have much medicinal value but it sure has a whole lot of fun recreational value that many of us enjoy. When coupled with CBD/CBN, yes it's a medicinal miracle with fun attached. :jah:



And I agree, but thats not what this thread is about. I am not anti marijuana even though I do not smoke it these days. BUt what I am saying is perhaps an honest discussion around it wouldnt hurt. HONEST discussion.




Yea, what you're trying to convey I can completely understand.
I was just responding to hillBill's statement of that it can't be a "miracle drug."
To me it is, but that's obviously subjective.

That was somewhat derailing the thread, so I'll get to topic this thread is actually about.

Quote:

Can you scrubs just fucking admit that Marijuana is a drug, it is addictive, and YES It does have side effects. Will it kill you? No, but to act like its the best thing since sliced bread, has zero negatives, and enhances your driving while curing your cancer at the same time is a JOKE.




Yes, it's obviously a drug. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional in my eyes.
Yes, it has side effects and although the detrimental side effects are lesser than just about every other drug, they do exist.

As far as driving goes, I don't prescribe to the idea that driving while high is safer. In fact the opposite, and don't condone driving while high in any form.

To put it simply, I wholeheartedly agree with what you're saying, AF. :cookiemonster:


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