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Diacetylmorphine
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Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. 2
#21874571 - 06/29/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys I know you're going to berate me for not using your teks but there's a number of reasons I'm using a growbox.
- I live with my mother (I'm 22 and pay rent so I can tell her a room is my space and not to invade it) so chances of getting caught; in which I would just tell her to wise up and that mushrooms are bloody harmless anyway and to leave them alone, it's not like the mushroom patrol call to the door every other day.
-I wanted something fast, I've never tripped on shrooms before, the kit cost £33 which isn't too much; I'm more of a chemist than a mycologist so I've always been a hands on very little waiting type of guy. Usually I make DMT using a STB tek, which can yield DMT literally overnight. Waiting weeks for something just isn't my thing.
So now we've got that out of the way, I need to ask if this is the start of pinning? I got the box out of the bag (in a clean area of course; with scrubbed down hands and forearms) and used my DSLR to take a couple of shots of them. I also went up close with 2 silky scarves of said mother tied round my mouth and nose. I noticed the mycelium (despite growing a bit) had to form small round balls of mycelium and lots of them. I've had the tub 5 days now (as I've said, patience is not my strong point; I can be patient while I'm getting ready for the next batch of DMT to go into the freezer but not while I'm sitting on my ass doing nothing. Anyway the growbox is in a room which is a constant 23 degrees, I humidify if I see no signs of humidity (ie no condensation on the bag) and generally take care of my babies. They're Albino A+ if that matters, I just wanted white mushrooms, thought it looked kinda cool (as I've said, mushrooms are nigh impossible to get here unless you're lucky enough to pick up some libs around Autumn so I just picked something visually appealing) and they're apparently pretty potent too (though there is contention on this point) but I digress, I'll get links to the pics posted (your forum probably won't like the filesize, 8mb JPEGs are a little large) Apparently I can upload images but due to their huge filesize I'll drop them in instead of the links after. It's been processing quite a while now.
Uncropped 'crop'
Crops of my crop, to give a closer look as I'm not sure how far you can zoom with the above link.
PS: Please try to spare me the photos of money down the toilet and stuff, I know they're overpriced, but they're quick. Nature is too slow for my liking, hence my love of chemistry, where unless you're doing a large multi step tek you can wrap things up in a day or two.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21874592 - 06/29/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No STAL. 
Condensation isn't humidity. It's the effect of a temperature difference in a climate above 10% humidity. Look up dew point.
You want the surface to be shimmery/glistening but NO POOLING water. Don't worry about anything else. Nor even the bag. Also post pics of your setup. If it's a grow kit I can almost guarantee there's not enough fae.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
#21874656 - 06/29/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Since it's a grow kit (supa gro) I know there isn't enough FAE (Yes I did my homework, mycelium has to breathe, it's not a plant so it can't make it's own O2 thus we must exchange air to keep CO2 from building up) through those tiny holes so I usually roll the bag pushing all the air out until most of the bag is rolled or crushed inward (but not touching the box or the myc), I give it a minute for the co2 to fall off the box I have it on and then I put the bag back in it's original state. This essentially turns the bag into a plastic lung, exchanging air without opening the bag.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21874775 - 06/29/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does this happen every 5 minutes? Cause that isn't fae.. fae is the CONSTANT exchange of co2. Your co2 has to CONSTANTLY be below 1000 ppm. Adding more holes (poking with a knife) increases fae. What you're doing is just exchanging humidity to have more evaporation to initiate pinning. A chamber with enough fae doesn't need to get fanned for evaporation. It has enough fae to have constant evaporation.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
#21874844 - 06/29/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does it really need that much FAE? I know it's an animal (sort of) and animals need O2 but it definitely can't be respirating so much that you need to exchange air every 5 mins or poke more holes. Insects can go without air for over 24 hours and be fine, this moves a lot less (and thus requires less energy) than insects) so I'd feel having huge gaping holes would just be an easy way for infection to get in. I was assuming it was pinning as this is listed as the pinning phase (knots) in the cultivation thread with an image like this. They look really, really similar.

The thread in question
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21874872 - 06/29/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said:
- I live with my mother (I'm 22 and pay rent so I can tell her a room is my space and not to invade it) so chances of getting caught; in which I would just tell her to wise up and that mushrooms are bloody harmless anyway and to leave them alone, it's not like the mushroom patrol call to the door every other day.
I wanted something fast, I've never tripped on shrooms before, the kit cost £33 which isn't too much; I'm more of a chemist than a mycologist so I've always been a hands on very little waiting type of guy. Usually I make DMT using a
Those back to back statements are bad news for this hobby. Yes FAE is important, you want a number of exchanges per hour. Look into eukaryotes and cellular respiration. Let them breathe. If you provide proper environment and have clean spawn then I will bet you will see some pins. Stop obsessing about it.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21874905 - 06/29/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't believe these got compared to insects. Sure insects can survive 24 hours without DYING.. they're also a fraction the size of a substrate. Why would you want your mushrooms to die? Also they grow outside in an environment with literally billions of contaminations all around them. Once fully colonized they fight and stop other molds from germinating. Clean environments are needed during colonization. Fruiting is done in open air.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21874925 - 06/29/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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if u got the same shit in ur box thats in that pic then yes u hav pins. but if u want them 2 make it then listen to what people that kno tell u instead of bringing up references 2 bugs and animals which aint got shit 2 do with what ur tryin 2 achieve
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: professorFATTYCAP] 1
#21875220 - 06/29/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Firstly and I don't want to piss anyone off, but I find all of this rather condescending in tone; if you didn't mean it to sound that way I apologise in advance. I've used a knife to cut 4 extra 'slit type' holes where I've cut a cross in the bag, however; people who I know have used these exact same kits and followed the instructions in the video to the book and got massive flushes. Personally I feel that if it was O2 starved it wouldn't have grown at all, yet it grew rapidly.
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I can't believe these got compared to insects. Sure insects can survive 24 hours without DYING.. they're also a fraction the size of a substrate. Why would you want your mushrooms to die? Also they grow outside in an environment with literally billions of contaminations all around them. Once fully colonized they fight and stop other molds from germinating. Clean environments are needed during colonization
I wouldn't want my mushrooms to die I was pointing out that a much more complex organism can survive underwater for extended periods of time; with a much higher metabolic rate so mycelium with air holes should easily be able to survive, especially if I'm using the bag as a 'plastic lung' every few hours. Most of the mycelium is underneath substrate too, how on earth could air reach that.
Sorry if I sound a little annoyed, though I feel the guys who make these kits (yes I know overpriced; I just want to trip on shrooms as they're on my bucket list) don't want them to fail as word of mouth would spread quickly that they're terribad. However all I've heard is good things about them, except that they are overpriced. As well as that I asked if this was the first sign of them pinning and I get lectured on air exchange. It's completely derailed the thread.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21875275 - 06/29/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fine then don't listen to me. I'm not getting paid to tell you. I've just told more than 20 people in the last month to poke more holes into their grow kits bags. What do I know though... you didn't even post pictures.. so I told you what you could do to increase your chances. Increase fae and mist directly to maintain hydration. Read my first and second posts. Go to my posts and I guarantee I've repeated the same thing in every 4 posts. Sorry for sharing my experience.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21875286 - 06/29/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nobody's being condescending little fellow, just listen to what the experienced users are telling you buddy
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#21875421 - 06/29/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually I did listen to you, I cut 4 more holes about 5x the size of the others. I can post pics if you want but it's just a supagro bag on top of a box, hold on a moment. As I said, I felt you were being condescending, if that was not the case I had already apologised in advance. As well as that the thread was about pinning, but if your intentions were solely to help me with this kit I'm very thankful.
Edit: Here's a pic of my setup
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Nobody's being condescending little fellow, just listen to what the experienced users are telling you buddy;)
Thank you.
There's a conflict of interests here; on one end I'm being told by the people who make these kits that I'm doing everything right, whereas I'm being told by you, who may not have had one of these kits that I'm doing it wrong. The tone as well felt (to me; it may not have been intended) very high and mighty.
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Edited by Diacetylmorphine (06/29/15 08:40 PM)
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21875567 - 06/29/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the difference is we do this for free and have absolutely no gain whether you fail or not. those guys want you to buy their kits. it "works" but it sucks.
we know what the mushrooms want. the kit people know what customers want to hear.
who do you listen to?
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
#21875657 - 06/29/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Why would you want your mushrooms to die?

seriously man, give them the FAE they need. don't let them die, that's just cruel.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: spacechildo]
#21875677 - 06/29/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get where you're coming from, however if the kits sucked they certainly wouldn't sell as well as they do (some strains being sold out on certain websites) nor get 4 and 5 star reviews.
I think it's a bit of both and as I've said I'm unsure if the mushrooms have started to pin yet, once I start getting full growth I'll probably make more vent holes so the mushrooms can breathe, or remove it from the bag completely.
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seriously man, give them the FAE they need. don't let them die, that's just cruel
The second I would see any failure to thrive I would start getting the shrooms back on track.
This thread has been completely derailed with people talking about FAE, all I wanted to know was if it was the first sign of pins forming. If there were problems I'd have made another thread.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21875692 - 06/29/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All of this nonsense can be avoided OP. EvilMushroom posted a thorough tek that is a decent starting point to get away from kits. If you scroll down to point #5 it is about building a shot gun fruiting chamber. Get your cake out of that bag and into one of those.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324#15223324
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21875696 - 06/29/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the sellers of those kits err on the side of low FAE/high RH because it's simply safer for THEM. If your kit dries out, you're pretty much fucked and they'll get lots of complaints. But if mycelium sits long enough in a high RH / low FAE environment, it'll eventually pin. The fruits will suck but at least there will be some fruits. At which point they can blame poor performance on genetics or something else besides their instructions.
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SteveRogers said: All of this nonsense can be avoided OP. EvilMushroom posted a thorough tek that is a decent starting point to get away from kits. If you scroll down to point #5 it is about building a shot gun fruiting chamber. Get your cake out of that god damn bag and into one of those.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324#15223324 Good luck to you.
I think he'll be fine with the bag. He just needs to make sure he balances the FAE/RH properly.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21875719 - 06/29/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Got a link? Search isn't giving me anything. Cheers. Also as I mentioned before the tek needs to be reasonably stealthy, if you haven't fully read my OP fully read it. I live with my mother; but pay rent I'm 22 though she would probably be irritated if I started making huge fruiting tubs.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21875808 - 06/29/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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- I live with my mother (I'm 22 and pay rent so I can tell her a room is my space and not to invade it) so chances of getting caught; in which I would just tell her to wise up and that mushrooms are bloody harmless anyway and to leave them alone, it's not like the mushroom patrol call to the door every other day.
I wanted something fast, I've never tripped on shrooms before, the kit cost £33 which isn't too much; I'm more of a chemist than a mycologist so I've always been a hands on very little waiting type of guy. Usually I make DMT using a
Those back to back statements are bad news for this hobby. Yes FAE is important, you want a number of exchanges per hour. Look into eukaryotes and cellular respiration. Let them breathe. If you provide proper environment and have clean spawn then I will bet you will see some pins. Stop obsessing about it.
read and commented on. There is a link to one of many SGFC teks in my post above. EvilMushroom breaks it down in Point # 5.
If you get really frisky look into http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19792837/fpart/1/vc/1
Good luck to you
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21875891 - 06/29/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: I get where you're coming from, however if the kits sucked they certainly wouldn't sell as well as they do (some strains being sold out on certain websites) nor get 4 and 5 star reviews.
I give those people 0-star reviews all the time, they never stick  they sell as well as they do because they promise a ton. I've seen tons of pics from mushrooms dying in choke bags like that and the poster says "there's a filterpatch for air intake" and stuff while its actually a filter patch for GE, to let some gases out.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21876073 - 06/29/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: This thread has been completely derailed with people talking about FAE, all I wanted to know was if it was the first sign of pins forming. If there were problems I'd have made another thread.
Holy shit just post closeup pics then. We're just telling you what is the #1 needed thing with indoor grows. Fae. Humidity isn't even that important. Just hydration. If you posted pics in the first place I would have told you if it is knotting or not. Not what to do to increase the pinset and chances of pins(which I'd have done even if you had pics). Because without pics how the hell am I supposed to say it's knotting, contaminated, healthy, or what. If you don't like getting advice on your grows, then don't come on here. This is the shroomery. Cultivation should come with a label. "These people will tell you what to do and will have massive debates in your threads. If you don't like it try the hello kitty chat forum."
I got told in a few threads today except I didn't bitch about it because I know people are trying to help stop me from spreading bad information as well as improve my techniques and success. Also I just say it like it is. Idk why noobs seem to think it's high and mighty when I'm trying to help them succeed. Maybe it's because I'm not using emoticons.
EDIT: Try posting pics on the shroomery next time. I got into your cropped pics and there's knotting. That's that then. You're good.
Edited by Mad Season (06/29/15 11:28 PM)
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21876347 - 06/30/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Sold out" means shit. Listen to what people are telling you about it. Looks like pins are starting though. Let 'em breath, they need constant FAE of some sort not a breather now and again.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21876563 - 06/30/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah definitely looks like pinning today. As the pins grow larger I'll cut 4 more vents in the bag. When shrooms appear I'll consider removing the box from the bag. Just instructions running completely different to the manufacturer doesn't seem quite right to me. If they'd wanted more FAE all they'd need to do is supply a bag with bigger holes and "transfer over at the first sign of pinning", "once you see mushrooms grow to a larger size remove the box from the bag comepletely". Not complex and all it requires is one more bag.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21876588 - 06/30/15 04:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: Got a link? Search isn't giving me anything. Cheers. Also as I mentioned before the tek needs to be reasonably stealthy, if you haven't fully read my OP fully read it. I live with my mother; but pay rent I'm 22 though she would probably be irritated if I started making huge fruiting tubs.
1. If you want stealth try a sclerotia grow for your next round.
2. If you are happy with your kit, fine, but don't blame people for trying to help you get better results. Yes, you have knots forming. But without proper fae nothing great will happen.
I will post pics later this week of a grow I am doing with no fruiting chamber inside my house that sits at 28c and less than 50% humidity with the windows open after rain. Humidity isn't as important as fae is after knotting and pins start to form.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21876756 - 06/30/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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EDIT: Try posting pics on the shroomery next time. I got into your cropped pics and there's knotting. That's that then. You're good.
I did, they uploaded then stuck at processing for over an hour, I'd planned to switch the links out for pics the second it 'processed' but I gave up after an hour and closed the tab.
Also when it comes to FAE shouldn't I cut holes in the bottom of the bag? CO2 being two oxygens heavier and all will naturally follow the fluid dynamic model and CO2 gas will vent out the bottom, pulling in the more oxygen rich air in through the top. Think of it as having a separating funnel containing oil and water with a tube vacuum sealed to the top of it; leading to a plastic container containing more oil and water that is being stirred, you want to get rid of the water and only keep the oil, so you let the heavier water drain out the bottom of the funnel and keep getting oil while losing the water by draining it out the bottom. Edit, capture vessels can be set up for water drainage (thick plastic sheeting on an incline into a cup) just in case the water causes the box to spawn any contaminants.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21876789 - 06/30/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: Thank you.
There's a conflict of interests here; on one end I'm being told by the people who make these kits that I'm doing everything right, whereas I'm being told by you, who may not have had one of these kits that I'm doing it wrong. The tone as well felt (to me; it may not have been intended) very high and mighty.
Awwww, youre now fun:P Time to get serious I guess, as spacechildo stated, its up to you to decide who has the most interest in you succeeding, the ppl who dont get payed for this or the ppl who already have your money.
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Diacetylmorphine said: I get where you're coming from, however if the kits sucked they certainly wouldn't sell as well as they do (some strains being sold out on certain websites) nor get 4 and 5 star reviews.
Actually they would, because having a white thumb is something different than a green one entirely. The companies know this, so they dial up the minimum parameters alot in order to make sure you "succeed". But if you take a look at some of the pictures in the signature of the ppl that are answering you, youll get where THEY are coming from. Take that into account when being "rained down" by tips you dont want;)
Or otherwise consider this: Theres a red spot on your sack, so naturally you go see a doctor about it. Meanwhile he tells you you have cancer in one of your nuts, what do you do?
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#21876919 - 06/30/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Galba Cubensis said: Or otherwise consider this: Theres a red spot on your sack, so naturally you go see a doctor about it. Meanwhile he tells you you have cancer in one of your nuts, what do you do? 
Well it depends? Is the cancer fatal? Are they gonna have to chop off one of my nuts? Will highly precise radiation work, making me sterile in that nut but still able to produce sperm from the other nut? If it was fatal I'd take as many drugs as possible, go skydiving on DMT, beat the living daylights out of anyone I've an issue with et cetera. If it was any of the others I'd let the doctors perform the medical procedure required.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21876926 - 06/30/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The point is, nobody is paying attention to the red spot anymore as there is something much more important on the agenda, finding out what to do about the cancer as you said;)
Id love to tell you if its pinning, but Im too nooby atm, sry bro:)
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#21877014 - 06/30/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Galba Cubensis said: Id love to tell you if its pinning, but Im too nooby atm, sry bro:)
It looks exactly like the pictures of hyphal knots, which is apparently the beginning of the pinning process. Already one knot, although still minuscule is taking more of a pin like form. Hopefully I should have shrooms in a week if I'm right, then do a second flush, then take the myc and sub out of the box, flip it, do a flush or two then break it up into four 'cakes' to see if I can get a final flush out of it. Then I'm sorely tempted to rinse the mycelium until I'm left with nothing but myc, extract the psylocybin/psylocin and drink that.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877072 - 06/30/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Then I'm sorely tempted to rinse the mycelium until I'm left with nothing but myc, extract the psylocybin/psylocin and drink that.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Psilosoulful]
#21877158 - 06/30/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where I come from we use all the buffalo.
Anyway here are the most recent pics? Start of pinning? I think so. Here are todat's images. One had a bit of reflections off the plastic so I put on a circular polarizing filter and took another. It's clearer, but stil not as perfect as it would without a bag in the way.


Sorry that the depth of field is really narrow, had to shoot the photos with the lens wide open (f1.4 MFT)
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877182 - 06/30/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: Hopefully I should have shrooms in a week if I'm right, then do a second flush, then take the myc and sub out of the box, flip it, do a flush or two then break it up into four 'cakes' to see if I can get a final flush out of it. Then I'm sorely tempted to rinse the mycelium until I'm left with nothing but myc, extract the psylocybin/psylocin and drink that.

please don't do that. flush it until it dies. if you break it up, it will expend more energy trying to repair itself than create fruits. i have a substrate that is on its 7th or 8th flush. it looks very "fragile" but im going to let it do its thing and see how long it lasts. and dont drink the mycelium, you won't trip.
edit: yea those pics looks like its knotting up. also use a tripod if you have one and leave the shutter open to capture more light instead of using a wide aperature.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877211 - 06/30/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im with you man, look like the real thing, but you cant listen to me:)
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Diacetylmorphine said: Then I'm sorely tempted to rinse the mycelium until I'm left with nothing but myc, extract the psylocybin/psylocin and drink that.
Wait what?? You gotta teach me that! If you succeed be sure to write a tek about it!
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Sksoul]
#21877260 - 06/30/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sksoul said: I will post pics later this week of a grow I am doing with no fruiting chamber inside my house that sits at 28c and less than 50% humidity with the windows open after rain. Humidity isn't as important as fae is after knotting and pins start to form.
Could be true. I've heard that mushrooms actually grow outdoors without any sort of FCs whatsoever, but who can say.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877425 - 06/30/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: If they'd wanted more FAE all they'd need to do is supply a bag with bigger holes and "transfer over at the first sign of pinning", "once you see mushrooms grow to a larger size remove the box from the bag comepletely". Not complex and all it requires is one more bag.
Well that works, or just a bag with more or bigger holes that are taped up, then take off tape works too. I've been emailing them and leaving reviews saying what you're saying for awhile now. I have been seriously pissed off that they don't listen. So much so that I don't even recommend people ever buy grow kits unless they have enough experience to know what mushies need by looking at them. Those kits need to get rigged more often than not. It isn't uncommon to have to poke 10+ holes. However why would a seasoned grower buy a grow kit? He can get mushrooms out for under 10$.
Like friedegg said before, it's in their best interest to make it work without any work from the buyer. They don't trust people to grow properly, and they'd probably have to give out lots of refunds due to people messing it up. There's a fine line between substrate too dry and substrate too wet. They want to give you something where you basically don't touch anything and get gross, long, lanky, bacterial, small yielding fae deprived mushrooms. At least the growers get mushrooms.
Best part about bag work is you can poke 30 holes, and if it's too much you can tape them back up. It's also known as dialing in your fruiting chamber 
Also just leave it be until it's flushed out. Don't try eating mycelium or extracting actives. Especially with a grow kit. You have no idea how it was made. Might be different if it was your own prepared grains and what not. If anything you should read up on cloning and spore printing, and clone the best fruit you get. Then start up with a good clone and have lots of spores to work with.. At least you get a head start when wanting to grow your own
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
#21877505 - 06/30/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, I'll definitely be taking a spore print. Might take a few in a pattern and have the paper I printed them onto laminated and stuck up on my wall.
Also I sprayed a tiny amount of water on the box itself, the mycelium looks somewhat slimy under a bright light; is this normal? As for everything else, I can see some of the first knots taking on a pin like shape now (fat body tiny head) so I'm hoping to harvest in a week if all goes well.
Since people keep talking about FAE, wouldn't two holes on the bottom of the bag be best? that way CO2 'pours' out of them being heavier than air and pulls in fresh air through the holes in the top.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877513 - 06/30/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes. Less small holes on the bottom to maintain surface humidity/evaporation for pinning and more holes/bigger ones on top for air circulation. That's also how a monotub fruiting chamber works. Make sure the bottom holes are a little higher than the tray/at surface level.
If the mycelium looks glistening wet with no pooling water, it should be fine.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877536 - 06/30/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: Since people keep talking about FAE, wouldn't two holes on the bottom of the bag be best? that way CO2 'pours' out of them being heavier than air and pulls in fresh air through the holes in the top.
Yea small holes at the bottom should be fine. But I don't think it's so much about CO2 pouring out the bottom because it's heavier... Your fruiting chamber is not a static container. It has a heat producing organism at the bottom and holes all over the place. I'm not going to try to guess at what kind of physics is happening inside that thing. I'm sure it's different with every fruiting chamber too.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
#21877587 - 06/30/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And yet another grow kit thread. Except this guy followed the grow kits directions. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21877581/vc/1#21877581
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
#21877593 - 06/30/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: And yet another grow kit thread. Except this guy followed the grow kits directions. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21877581/vc/1#21877581
Don't let it get like this.

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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
#21877913 - 06/30/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: And yet another grow kit thread. Except this guy followed the grow kits directions. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21877581/vc/1#21877581
Don't let it get like this.
Quite right, it's got it's own little microclimate in there, though cutting holes in the bottom will remove CO2 better than the sides, definitely.
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FriedEgg said: And yet another grow kit thread. Except this guy followed the grow kits directions.
All I did was make sure the temperature was a perfect 23 degrees (I'd just noticed direct sunlight on it and a temp climb to 25c so I closed the curtains), used soap and scrubbed with a nailbrush up to my elbows, put it in the bag and misted daily. Unless it gets infected with something now I should hopefully get a good harvest. And another And another etc
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21877964 - 06/30/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you're interested in the physics of it all keep reading 
You are over thinking it a bit. Although true co2 is heavier, that would only happen in a vacuum. Air pressure and current swirls air around so much it's just a blend of particles. They're so light it doesn't take much to do so, thus you'd need a vacuum. This is actually more dependant on air currents caused by water vapor (humid air vs dry air)
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We know humid air rises because it's less dense than drier air. So, the humid air inside the mono should rise up and out the top holes, right? Because it's less dense than the drier air in your grow room, right?
You can see evidence of this if you put a substrate in the mono and leave the holes completely open. You will see the substrate drying faster near and around the bottom holes. This is because the humid air flowing out the top creates a vacuum that pulls fresh dry air in through the bottom and causing drying.
We don't want this to happen because mycelium weakens and the substrate becomes more prone to contamination as it dries.
In this case you'd stuff the bottom holes tight with polyfil to reduce the amount of dry air coming in.
In your case you can just poke a small amount of holes, and even tape them back up if it's too much. Hope this helps and explains everything
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
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Diacetylmorphine said: the mycelium looks somewhat slimy under a bright light; is this normal?
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: spacechildo]
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Diacetylmorphine said: the mycelium looks somewhat slimy under a bright light; is this normal?
that's bacteria.
Don't think so, looks more like wet mycelium and the other signs of bacteria aren't there (failure to flourish; my knots have started becoming minipins, bad smells; if anything it smells neutral, slightly mushroomey) I think when I sprayed the mycelium gently it got a coat of water and a bright light is making that coat of water glisten much more than a normal light (it's one of the super-bright single LED focus lights made out of aluminium), so far everything seems to be going okay; all the knots are growing, more myc is growing (though it's more wispy than before) and new knots are growing out of that myc. Hopefully fingers crossed, touch wood, etc I should have a nice harvest around the first or second week of July.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21878705 - 06/30/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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glistening water looks fresh, bacteria looks slimey. what you said doesnt make sense regarding why it cant be bacteria..
FAE beats bacteria. bacteria needs stale wet air to thrive. mushrooms love fresh air. 5-15 mins of direct sunlight every day can also help beat bacteria.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: spacechildo]
#21881770 - 07/01/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning. I'll post up some images though the 'slime' seems to have just been water under an extremely bright light, however since you've a bit more experience help is always nice.
Sorry for the narrow depth of field but I was shooting with a with a flashgun attached at F/8.0 (you'll probably only understand that if you understand or do photography) In layman's terms I had the iris on the camera closed over a good bit so needed a flash (since it was the typical 'mount on camera' flash I fired at the ceiling, to give more even lighting) if I were to close the iris much more I'd lose image quality whereas F/8 is usually where most lenses perform best.

 Here's one taken using the same settings from the side, I was further away from the subject and the box is 'shallower' from the side.
I'm sorely tempted to order a second battery (or a DC in 'battery') and do a stop motion shoot of the rest of the growth if you guys think it's healthy. It's an albino strain, hence the white mini-pins. Does anyone know of a stop motion of albino shrooms or would this be a first? If it were to be a first I'd definitely go for it.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21881872 - 07/01/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?
I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush
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I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning. Quote:
godisamushroom said: My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?
I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush
What? Look at the most recent pics, it's day 6 and they're pinning like crazy. I've decided to do a (partial) time lapse since they grew even more in two hours, now I have the biggest one growing on top of another reasonably big one. This seems to be a relatively fast strain, or else just a decent grow kit; or maybe I just got lucky due to the speed and reported potency of it I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I all goes well I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21882584 - 07/01/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks healthy.
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#21882597 - 07/01/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning. Quote:
godisamushroom said: My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?
I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush
What? Look at the most recent pics, it's day 6 and they're pinning like crazy. I've decided to do a (partial) time lapse since they grew even more in two hours, now I have the biggest one growing on top of another reasonably big one. This seems to be a relatively fast strain, or else just a decent grow kit; or maybe I just got lucky due to the speed and reported potency of it I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I sold it I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.
Take that somewhere else bro.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21882636 - 07/01/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diacetylmorphine said: I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I sold it I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.
needle exchange? what are you, a heroin addict? (looks at username..... oh)
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
#21883054 - 07/01/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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that's probably how kits started out, people wanting to sell shrooms to make money but didnt know shit about growing them nor cared to learn so they threw some perlite under a bunch of verm and sold it as a "grow your own fucking mushrooms" kit
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
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Ex Heroin addict (though I still use occasionally) on substitution and current benzo addict (tapering), though I don't see why other drug users bother to judge other drug users on the drugs they use. I've never stolen from anyone or committed fraud to get any H when I was using, if money was low I switched to pod tea. The whole Heroin stigma is another thing bashed into your head by the government; they show you videos of maybe the worst 5% and then say "This is what a Heroin addict looks like", I urge you to watch channel 4's "The truth about Heroin"; a government minister used for years and only stopped when he said he had to stop and told his GP. Heroin itself in it's purest form is physically harmless over the long term (apart from some endocrine changes, all which go when you stop taking it) unless you call physical dependency harm. Over the short term overdose can be reversed by one shot of naloxone, so the current strategy here is to hand out naloxone to addicts, teach CPR I sort of ended up teaching my instructor CPR (he forgot finer sweeps for anything blocking the airway that you don't want to push into the lungs; me doing plenty of medical stuff up to suturing wounds and the like) and now am a proud owner of an antidote that reverses overdose in minutes, I've had to get a second, because one already saved a life using it, with alcohol it's gastric lavage and a tube down your throat Switzerland, Germany and Denmark have started giving their addicts Heroin (Austria uses morphine, oral slow release where each user gets his second 12 hour pill as a take-home dose from day one) and all these programmes have been a resounding success with people who were homeless and destitute getting a job and starting a family after years of addiction. One odd co-incidence is that one year after the Taliban ordered a ban on Heroin (and illicit stocks dropped by about 50% or more) the Coalition forces invade the country in search of one man, the Taliban who they funded and armed became criminals overnight and now there is more, purer Heroin to be found than before the war to find one man, who wasn't even in the country at the time. I've heard stories of people quitting the armed forces because their core objective while deployed was "defend this poppy field from Taliban attack" if I was an intelligent individual I'd ban a substance then start up a black market for it, gram by gram making it worth more than gold. Both the CIA and the FBI have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar more than once, back in the Vietnam days mysterious empty planes would take off with far more fuel than an empty plane should need, of course if you asked "it's a need to know thing and you don't need to know" turns out those planes were loaded with opium and Heroin. But the general tl;dr part here is you use drugs; I use drugs and if you're going to play the 'addictive' card. Do you drink? Or worse, are you a smoker? because alcohol is addictive (and causes far more harm to the body than H) you've just fallen prey to years of disinformation, because how else could the government keep a drug that is physically harmless over the long term and easily cured over the short term illegal. Simple; make the users look like pond scum. C4 - The truth about Heroin
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Many many years ago I was actually a heroin addict. I've seen and experienced the ugly "endocrine" changes you speak of and they are no joke. Yes I agree it's one of the healthiest drugs you can do (that's exactly what lead me to fool myself into thinking it was ok) but it's the most dangerous. You say you're an ex addict but you still talk like an addict. If you want to get high once in a while, do kratom once a week. It's not strong but once your tolerance drops to normal, it'll do the job. I've been clean for a long time except the occasional kratom and hydrocodone use and I lead a much happier life now.
PS. You might be better off just buying a 10ml syringe from a mycology supply store. Those 30ga 1cc insulin syringes will get really annoying.
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I never said those things  but I get it its easy to fuck up the quote thing!
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
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Many many years ago I was actually a heroin addict. I've seen and experienced the ugly "endocrine" changes you speak of and they are no joke. Yes I agree it's one of the healthiest drugs you can do (that's exactly what lead me to fool myself into thinking it was ok) but it's the most dangerous. You say you're an ex addict but you still talk like an addict. If you want to get high once in a while, do kratom once a week. It's not strong but once your tolerance drops to normal, it'll do the job. I've been clean for a long time except the occasional kratom and hydrocodone use and I lead a much happier life now.
PS. You might be better off just buying a 10ml syringe from a mycology supply store. Those 30ga 1cc insulin syringes will get really annoying.
Nice to see someone who's not bought into the 'big lie' as C4 put it. However the exchange I go to will give me 5mls if I ask nicely. They do 2mls up 20 20ga, nevershares which are 30ga and are the shit if you're doing IV drugs since the needle can be popped off, allowing you to filter without blunting the needle. Smack addictiion isn't a fun game but when your doctor won't give you anything for the agony I still experience naturally a person will turn to illicit outlets. I went into IV with 2 others who said "Oh it'll be a one time thing", I was the only one wise enough to say "Nope, this'll wreck our lives but I hurt so fucking much physically and emotionally (severe depression at this point; they've proven that physical and psychological pain come from the same areas of the brain using PET scans) I'd rather go down this path than leave my mother alone since my father took his own life when I was 6. I took the best out of two bad choices.
EDIT: The stopmotion has started. When I have it all wrapped up there will likely be 'jumps' in growth as I give the shrooms a dark environment (longer than a 60s shutter opening/exposure time can't do and I'm not even sure the electronic shutter (which I'm using as a focal plane (mechanical) shutter is a piece of mechanical equipment, reasonably expensive to replace and stopmotions can exist of over 4000 shots, whereas the electronic shutter works like the shutter on your phone, no 'DSLR snap' and no moving parts apart from in the lens, where it'll be coming into focus then stopping down to f4 which gives a good balance between exposure time and depth of field (how much is in focus). I'll lose image quality but gain longevity in a £400 camera body) as well as that as good as the battery is it'll need charged every so often, though the stopmotion mode seems pretty good so far, the screen and viewfinder (It's a mirrorless) are both off as is the 'on' light except for every 7 mins when it takes a shot, the on light goes out straight after, which I assume means the image sensor is also being killed. This; in layman's terms means I should be able to get 12+hrs of shooting out of it so I'll probably rig it up as <shrooms growing> <screen darken> and lighten for 5 or so seconds then <shrooms growing> It should give you guys a good idea of how good these growboxes are.
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OP, I was asking why you haven't tried shrooms yet if you knew people growing them in the past with massive flushes?
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Just to ask for a few more words of wisdom. I've poked a couple of holes in the bottom and one fairly big one at the top (you can almost feel the air being pulled in, or expelled out) however it's very hot and dry at the moment. The instructional says to mist at least once a day to keep it humidified. I take it since it's so dry the mist is drying off the edges of the bag (I gave the mycelium a little mist too, looked a little dry for my liking though from about 1m away so it only got a fine coating and most of the mist missed it), should I just mist when I see signs of drying? I don't even need to open the bag, the tip of the mister fits nicely in the holes and gives me a good arc to aim for.
Also when I got the mister I made sure it was sterilised (used 80 deg water) and then used boiled water that I cooled in a (previously sterilised with boiling water and microwaves) pyrex jar with ice, salt and water, I then put that in with clean hands and a mask (well a silk scarf but who can be picky) on. Should that water still be good or should I change it since the mister has to take in air to replace the water volume?
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godisamushroom said: OP, I was asking why you haven't tried shrooms yet if you knew people growing them in the past with massive flushes?
Nice progress btw
This happened two or 3 times. At these times I was either in total benzoland or too doped up on smack to get them in time, they're so damn rare here by the time I had cash for them they were gone. I've talked to others through IRC chat on the world's favourite drug imageboard, as well as seeing threads there of people buying these kits and getting decent flushes. Interesting really, psychedelics have been key to me stopping the stuff and doing a really harsh intensive taper on the benzos I've currently an issue with. I was on 30mg of flubromazolam a fortnight ago. Two 1.3mg doses of 25i NBOH (a gentler version of NBOMe without the tolerance increase) later and now I'm down to just over 10mg. I plan to drop in half milligrams weekly now and switch to diclazepam when I'm at 1mg a day and continue my reduction. It's a pity this shit's illegal one big dose of acid/shrooms/2c-x/NBOx with a drug counsellor in a comfortable area would be worth 100 sessions. No wonder it's illegal.
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godisamushroom said: My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?
I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush
What? Look at the most recent pics, it's day 6 and they're pinning like crazy. I've decided to do a (partial) time lapse since they grew even more in two hours, now I have the biggest one growing on top of another reasonably big one. This seems to be a relatively fast strain, or else just a decent grow kit; or maybe I just got lucky due to the speed and reported potency of it I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I sold it I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.
Take that somewhere else bro.
I've smelled a rat from the beginning of this thread. OP this is not what we do here.
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 What's the weather like from up there in your ivory tower. Nice to see captain America is in the case, wait isn't America like the perfect model for capitalism, somewhat oxymoronic that someone who chooses Captain Capitalism as their avatar is saying this, I could get you a picture of Mao Tse Tung or Comrade Stalin if you'd prefer?
I posted something I was told was not talked about around here, I changed the post. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
I actually had two personal friends look over a link to the thread over facebook. Both said everyone was acting all high and mighty and that 420 or bluelight would probably be a better option but I chose to stick with you guys because you knew your stuff. Now you judge people on the drugs they take and not the people they are and when someone makes a minor foux pas then very quickly corrects it you cling to it like flies on shit.
There are some really decent and helpful people here, but others can either be; or come across as total wankers.
If this earns me a ban so be it, but I've started a stopmotion, followed your instructions on FEA and added more holes and been polite in every post; well except this one. The same cannot be said for some of the posters in this thread.
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The abilities of psychedelics to aid cessation of other drugs have been thoroughly documented. If our society was actually enlightened it'd be all over this stuff. Good luck OP.
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unfortunately, they aren't recognized by the DEA as having any medical use
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unfortunately, they aren't recognized by the DEA as having any medical use
I'll refer you to that part about making hard drugs ie cocaine and Heroin (the first letter is always a capital in Heroin since it's a name, it was a brand product sold by Bayer (you know, the guys who make Rennie anti digestion pills?); just in case nobody knew but they sold it for everything when it was legal, from coughs to 'women's problems') illegal then creating a black market for it is far more lucrative because then you get a prison-industrial system, if you're importing it you get to sell it for many, many times it's actual worth, you get to set up 'rehab facilities' and 'treatment programs' for addicts. In short, prohibition is shit for everyone but great for the economy. The CIA and others have had a few drug scandals over the years, as for the UK paedophile ministers have been manipulated by MI5 to do their bidding rather than the people's (see Cyril Smith), if they manipulate one chances are others are getting the same treatment. Maybe that's why they have the backbone of a wet jellyfish.
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I know a lot of former addicts- shits no joke and it will, given time, ruin your life.
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 no one is immune.
OP, that's why i was giving you a subtle hint of shit. i just don't want to see anyone's life ruined. i wasn't trying to act like i was on a high horse or anything. (high horse... no pun intended )
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TravelAgency said: I know a lot of former addicts- shits no joke and it will, given time, ruin your life.
 no one is immune.
OP, that's why i was giving you a subtle hint of shit. i just don't want to see anyone's life ruined. i wasn't trying to act like i was on a high horse or anything. (high horse... no pun intended )
If anyone asked me if they should try Heroin (or any strong opiate really) I'd tell them yes, it's a bucket list thing, though I'd recommend you do it a lot closer to the end of your life; the only time I'd recommend anyone start using is if they have uncontrollable depression and are likely to kill themselves anyway, opiates make great antidepressants and are, in the terms of the things they can cure the closest thing man can get to a panacea in real life. I'd never tell someone that's going to be great and the ride of a lifetime and I'd certainly never give opiates to someone who has never used them before, or give them the means to obtain them (like a dealer's phone number). It's a shame and pity that the world has gone down the route of prohibition (except for places like Portugal, where they have global drug decriminalization for personal use) as most, if not all drugs have the ability to be used medicinally and for the ailments they help no other pharmaceutical can beat. When we get to the core of it (Heroin being a schedule one drug with 'no medicinal use' but when my mother gets badly burned it was the first line of pain relief for her (diamorphine, which is 100% pure Heroin) in fact diamorphine is the first line of treatment for people in severe pain in hospitals across the UK (I myself was given a PCA full of it, push button to receive IV Heroin; legally ) legalisation of everything is the way forward and sale through government run 'pharmacies' where one would need a special ID card that logs all purchases made from any one of them used, to stop diversion to people under the age of majority. Laws on selling drugs to people under the age of adulthood (18 here) would be extremely harsh, in line with the drug laws we have today. However it would be legal for say a parent to let their 16 year old son or daughter come in with them and pick up some weed. Education, naturally would need to be drastically changed, I wasn't there for it (I left school for college as I was sick of the uniformity and strictness of school in the UK, the place is like a prison for kids) however in the sex and drug education that was given out by the current headmistress; HIV wasn't sexually transmittable, you could only get it from un-sterile needles. She believed that 'dirty needles' were just needles that weren't sterile and might have been used by someone 100% clean of any BBV or syph and HIV magically grows on it because of God, or sin or some shit like that. Took an entire class full of 18/19 year old students to convince her otherwise; when the student knows more than the teacher education has failed.
Anyway I've deviated from the subject matter a little; I have a camera running in 7 minute shots down beside the grow-bag. The hyphal knots have turned into full grown pins and the size has doubled in the past 12 hours. At a guess I'd say there's at least 70 pins there and lots more in their primordial knot stage. Since I'd have to pay about £40 for a good trip or two on shrooms (massive rarity here) I'm quite happy with how these guys have turned out. No sign of any contamination and <prays to shroom god> I'll have a beautiful flush. I'll also have a nice stop-motion for you guys, but night time simply won't be possible, so sudden jumps will be likely for each day.
EDIT: Ran it 12 hours there, not much change, or else I need it on a bigger screen. They seem to grow more at night; I could rig up a flash but then my mother (just in case you didn't read the OP, I'm 22; pay half the rent) would likely wonder why the room is flashing every seven minutes.
Second EDIT: Just looking at the battery and making calculations of shutter closures I can definitely use this at night, just so long as there's a small bit of light since 7 days of night time mechanical shutter use (up to 60s exposure time vs 1s, letting more light hit the sensor) only problem is it's going to chew though the battery more than electronic shutter so there'll still be gaps, movement of the camera and stuff like that, as I said it is a stealth grow, my first grow so the stopmotion will most likely be shite. Personally I'm evaluating the need of one since there are already better ones than mine, though I'll have it going overnight with the camera tonight just to see how it grows at night time and if it is faster than it's growth during the daytime. I took it out, misted the bag and the shrooms (again I held the mist sprayer a good metre away from the shrooms and substrate and sprayed down, so it would be like light rain, or morning dew on the mushrooms.
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you could leave one of your normal house lights on in that room to provide some light for night photos. if its on the warm end of the light spectrum (less than 3500k) it shouldn't disrupt the mycelium's circadium rhythm too much
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I've dealt with uncontrollable depression my whole life, led to addictions and downfalls of my own. But things like opiates, cocaines, alcohol even- they only provide a brief moment of escape.
So I'm glad you are here- for mushrooms do not give a temporary escape- they can heal you on a physical, mental, and spiritual level. I quit a serious habit cold turkey because of one mushroom trip. I hate to even call them trips, they are experiences. I've gotten over death and loss, I've been shown the right paths to take- and which ones not to- both in the waking world and in my chaotic and often outright frightening psyche.
I wish you all the success that one could come by in mycology- and I hope they show you a different path. And please don't feel like I'm judging, I'm not at all- I've been there, I know many who were too- take this trip seriously as it may save your life.
As someone else said "I just don't want to see anyone's life ruined" If you ever need to talk about your depression feel free to PM me.
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I've got it sorted, I've just switched to the mechanical shutter for night time. No idea why but the electronic shutter only goes out to 1s whereas the mechanical shutter works out to an unlimited amount of time (B or bulb from back in the day when the shutter would be held open from the air pressure coming in from a little bulb) when all the mechanical shutter does is flip up the first curtain, cover the sensor (it's a mirrorless so the sensor remains uncovered, unlike DSLRs so and then the second curtain drops then the process is repeated. Thing is, the electronic shutter is just the sensor switched on with no mechanical shutter and at long exposures, like 60s all that happens is the sensor is exposed for 60s. Why an open sensor can't just take in light for longer than 1s is beyond me. I bet a firmware hack would fix it. Turns out that if I'm shooting every ten minutes for 12h it's only like 200 shots. I can live with 800-1000 shutter actuations for a stopmotion of this, the camera body is rated to 100k anyway. It just comes to selling it, if the camera keeps a record of how many there were (some do to stop second hand buyers getting screwed Quote:
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So I'm glad you are here- for mushrooms do not give a temporary escape- they can heal you on a physical, mental, and spiritual level. I quit a serious habit cold turkey because of one mushroom trip. I hate to even call them trips, they are experiences. I've gotten over death and loss, I've been shown the right paths to take- and which ones not to- both in the waking world and in my chaotic and often outright frightening psyche.
I wish you all the success that one could come by in mycology- and I hope they show you a different path. And please don't feel like I'm judging, I'm not at all- I've been there, I know many who were too- take this trip seriously as it may save your life.
As someone else said "I just don't want to see anyone's life ruined" If you ever need to talk about your depression feel free to PM me.
Thanks bro. Personally I'd be an advocate of the endorphin system being key to mood. They've already proven that physical and psychological pain use the same areas of the brain on a PET scan (it may have been an FMRI) essentially they got a medium group of volunteers with mild depression to play a 'game' that they thought they were playing with other people in other test rooms, in fact they were playing against a computer, it was a game of throw and catch the ball and slowly the computer (3 other players) would exclude the person in the scanner, that's when the scans started to show the people in the machines were in pain. Problem is; if the medical societies start to admit that endorphin is key to refractory depression they have only one medicine they can give out to cure it; opiates. A test was done on a small group of people with refractory depression who had been given everything and nothing had worked, the doctors used low (1-2mg/day) doses of buprenorphine and the patients showed >80% improvement (if I've gotten my figures right), now bear in mind; no other antidepressant worked for these people. The current medical consensus is that only the monoamines (Dopamine, Serotonin and Noradrenaline) cause depression when antidepressants with a slight opiate effect (TCAs and venlafaxine) have a higher success rate than those that don't.
In my mind it really comes down to "Do you want to do the right thing and potentially risk job, or do you want to go to the next pfizer conference and hand out pills which are addictive in their own right (they claim SSRIs are non-addictive, 'withdrawal' has been changed to 'ssri discontinuation syndrome' and they've only admitted the existence of SSRI withdrawal oh sorry discontinuation syndrome 20 years after their release) and are barely more effective than placebo. Doctors in the UK used to hand out Heroin in tablet form for depression in the 40s to the 60s/70s then that criminal Nixon started the war on drug users, probably to fill up a nice DEA slush fund for retirement. They stopped after the war on drugs started and started using inferior meds.
The drug war makes money for those with too much already and takes from all of us. Be it shrooms from a pharmacy or morphine for your depression it would be a brighter future.
Since I'm on subs I get a key worker (basically someone to chat to while my script gets printed) and I pitched the legalise everything, educate and make parents do their jobs for once, rather than letting their kids grow up on television. He came at me with something that had apparently stumped the last person who said this to him "What if you're going in for surgery and your surgeon has been on a crack binge all weekend, would you want crack to be legal" apparently the last person said "Oh well ban crack then" I came back at him "What if your surgeon has been drinking all weekend and can barely see due to the hangover, would he remain a surgeon for long? Once you get an MD should you be banned from consuming alcohol just like priests are supposed to be married to God? It's been a year, he still hasn't thought up a response.
Personally though I'm highly libertarian, guns (I'm from the UK) should have their restrictions dialled down drastically; the only semi auto weapon you are allowed to have is a rimfire .22 rifle. My crossbow probably puts out more energy than one of those. Pistols (well they are legal under licence in Northern Ireland yet airguns require a licence; kneejerk laws, highly typical of the UK) selectable fire automatic rifles 'assault weapons' should be legal under licence as well as everything short of anti tank and anti aircraft missiles (though in NI we have enough of those anyway) should be fine to get a licence for. The criminals already have guns (which is why I have a bow, people tend to comply a lot more if you use a laser dazzler and bright light on them while aiming a cocked and loaded broadhead 5cm wide at them. We got robbed once and the bastards took the car, my mother chased them (I was about 12 at the time) but they were in the car by the time she got there, they went to the top of the road, did a 180 and if it wasn't for me pulling her back into the driveway they would have run her down. Legally it would have been a crime to give chase in another vehicle. Since life is worth more than property, even if the people taking your property seem to think your property is free and when someone tries to fight back killing them is A okay.
Once again I prattle on, this was about depression and now it's about making firearms more accessible. I miss my cat that died around Christmas, she knew when it was time to stop typing and would walk on the keyboard until I stopped. Extremely clever cat, when my dad was still alive he taught her how to play fetch.
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Diacetylmorphine
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
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I notified a moderator that this was a double post. This is no longer the case. Please don't remove me 
Anyways, if this harvest goes well I'm thinking about what to do next harvest (well the third grow actually), could I (very carefully) cut the sides off the container so I essentially have one big cake that can side pin and side grow or would it not hold water/fall apart then for my forth I was thinking of getting a grille and placing that in the bag with the mushrooms inside free of their box so they can grow every which way, or again would the watered substrate fall apart or would the mycelium hold it together?
EDIT: I haven't heard the machinations the the camera as of late (never mind it's still shooting after 17 hours, the in-built stop motion system seems to be smart enough to kill all but the timing circuit before taking a shot; I wouldn't be surprised to see two or three bars when I take it out in an hour or two) so it's a (not) good bet it got low on battery and saved the stop-motion, still it's 5pm here and I put it on at 12am. A computer screen provided just enough light at night for the mechanical shutter, which seemed to be open for 60s so I've no idea of what the background noise will be like. A problem has arisen that the shrooms are now getting too big for the bag; pins touching the sides and stuff, I'd assume this may stunt their growth. Should removing one of the two folds and re-clipping be a wise idea? Also once they really are too big for the bag should I just invert the bag and blu-tack it to a surface?
Basically follow this order -Remove one of the two folds (mold trap probably, just like pasturer's experiments though everything looks healthy and strong) - Once the mushrooms again look and feel trapped, remove that last fold. Put a thin cloth over the top to reduce contamination - Once the mushrooms are near picking time, look for a larger housing for them to grow up into, probably the bag turned upside-down
Edited by Diacetylmorphine (07/04/15 03:08 PM)
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