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Diacetylmorphine
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21886628 - 07/02/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: I've smelled a rat from the beginning of this thread. OP this is not what we do here.
 What's the weather like from up there in your ivory tower. Nice to see captain America is in the case, wait isn't America like the perfect model for capitalism, somewhat oxymoronic that someone who chooses Captain Capitalism as their avatar is saying this, I could get you a picture of Mao Tse Tung or Comrade Stalin if you'd prefer?
I posted something I was told was not talked about around here, I changed the post. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
I actually had two personal friends look over a link to the thread over facebook. Both said everyone was acting all high and mighty and that 420 or bluelight would probably be a better option but I chose to stick with you guys because you knew your stuff. Now you judge people on the drugs they take and not the people they are and when someone makes a minor foux pas then very quickly corrects it you cling to it like flies on shit.
There are some really decent and helpful people here, but others can either be; or come across as total wankers.
If this earns me a ban so be it, but I've started a stopmotion, followed your instructions on FEA and added more holes and been polite in every post; well except this one. The same cannot be said for some of the posters in this thread.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21887197 - 07/02/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The abilities of psychedelics to aid cessation of other drugs have been thoroughly documented. If our society was actually enlightened it'd be all over this stuff. Good luck OP.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21887682 - 07/02/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: The abilities of psychedelics to aid cessation of other drugs have been thoroughly documented. If our society was actually enlightened it'd be all over this stuff. Good luck OP. 

unfortunately, they aren't recognized by the DEA as having any medical use
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
#21888221 - 07/02/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: The abilities of psychedelics to aid cessation of other drugs have been thoroughly documented. If our society was actually enlightened it'd be all over this stuff. Good luck OP. 

unfortunately, they aren't recognized by the DEA as having any medical use
I'll refer you to that part about making hard drugs ie cocaine and Heroin (the first letter is always a capital in Heroin since it's a name, it was a brand product sold by Bayer (you know, the guys who make Rennie anti digestion pills?); just in case nobody knew but they sold it for everything when it was legal, from coughs to 'women's problems') illegal then creating a black market for it is far more lucrative because then you get a prison-industrial system, if you're importing it you get to sell it for many, many times it's actual worth, you get to set up 'rehab facilities' and 'treatment programs' for addicts. In short, prohibition is shit for everyone but great for the economy. The CIA and others have had a few drug scandals over the years, as for the UK paedophile ministers have been manipulated by MI5 to do their bidding rather than the people's (see Cyril Smith), if they manipulate one chances are others are getting the same treatment. Maybe that's why they have the backbone of a wet jellyfish.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21888777 - 07/02/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know a lot of former addicts- shits no joke and it will, given time, ruin your life.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: TravelAgency]
#21888993 - 07/02/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TravelAgency said: I know a lot of former addicts- shits no joke and it will, given time, ruin your life.
 no one is immune.
OP, that's why i was giving you a subtle hint of shit. i just don't want to see anyone's life ruined. i wasn't trying to act like i was on a high horse or anything. (high horse... no pun intended )
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
#21891328 - 07/03/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TravelAgency said: I know a lot of former addicts- shits no joke and it will, given time, ruin your life.
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TravelAgency said: I know a lot of former addicts- shits no joke and it will, given time, ruin your life.
 no one is immune.
OP, that's why i was giving you a subtle hint of shit. i just don't want to see anyone's life ruined. i wasn't trying to act like i was on a high horse or anything. (high horse... no pun intended )
If anyone asked me if they should try Heroin (or any strong opiate really) I'd tell them yes, it's a bucket list thing, though I'd recommend you do it a lot closer to the end of your life; the only time I'd recommend anyone start using is if they have uncontrollable depression and are likely to kill themselves anyway, opiates make great antidepressants and are, in the terms of the things they can cure the closest thing man can get to a panacea in real life. I'd never tell someone that's going to be great and the ride of a lifetime and I'd certainly never give opiates to someone who has never used them before, or give them the means to obtain them (like a dealer's phone number). It's a shame and pity that the world has gone down the route of prohibition (except for places like Portugal, where they have global drug decriminalization for personal use) as most, if not all drugs have the ability to be used medicinally and for the ailments they help no other pharmaceutical can beat. When we get to the core of it (Heroin being a schedule one drug with 'no medicinal use' but when my mother gets badly burned it was the first line of pain relief for her (diamorphine, which is 100% pure Heroin) in fact diamorphine is the first line of treatment for people in severe pain in hospitals across the UK (I myself was given a PCA full of it, push button to receive IV Heroin; legally ) legalisation of everything is the way forward and sale through government run 'pharmacies' where one would need a special ID card that logs all purchases made from any one of them used, to stop diversion to people under the age of majority. Laws on selling drugs to people under the age of adulthood (18 here) would be extremely harsh, in line with the drug laws we have today. However it would be legal for say a parent to let their 16 year old son or daughter come in with them and pick up some weed. Education, naturally would need to be drastically changed, I wasn't there for it (I left school for college as I was sick of the uniformity and strictness of school in the UK, the place is like a prison for kids) however in the sex and drug education that was given out by the current headmistress; HIV wasn't sexually transmittable, you could only get it from un-sterile needles. She believed that 'dirty needles' were just needles that weren't sterile and might have been used by someone 100% clean of any BBV or syph and HIV magically grows on it because of God, or sin or some shit like that. Took an entire class full of 18/19 year old students to convince her otherwise; when the student knows more than the teacher education has failed.
Anyway I've deviated from the subject matter a little; I have a camera running in 7 minute shots down beside the grow-bag. The hyphal knots have turned into full grown pins and the size has doubled in the past 12 hours. At a guess I'd say there's at least 70 pins there and lots more in their primordial knot stage. Since I'd have to pay about £40 for a good trip or two on shrooms (massive rarity here) I'm quite happy with how these guys have turned out. No sign of any contamination and <prays to shroom god> I'll have a beautiful flush. I'll also have a nice stop-motion for you guys, but night time simply won't be possible, so sudden jumps will be likely for each day.
EDIT: Ran it 12 hours there, not much change, or else I need it on a bigger screen. They seem to grow more at night; I could rig up a flash but then my mother (just in case you didn't read the OP, I'm 22; pay half the rent) would likely wonder why the room is flashing every seven minutes.
Second EDIT: Just looking at the battery and making calculations of shutter closures I can definitely use this at night, just so long as there's a small bit of light since 7 days of night time mechanical shutter use (up to 60s exposure time vs 1s, letting more light hit the sensor) only problem is it's going to chew though the battery more than electronic shutter so there'll still be gaps, movement of the camera and stuff like that, as I said it is a stealth grow, my first grow so the stopmotion will most likely be shite. Personally I'm evaluating the need of one since there are already better ones than mine, though I'll have it going overnight with the camera tonight just to see how it grows at night time and if it is faster than it's growth during the daytime. I took it out, misted the bag and the shrooms (again I held the mist sprayer a good metre away from the shrooms and substrate and sprayed down, so it would be like light rain, or morning dew on the mushrooms.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21894850 - 07/03/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you could leave one of your normal house lights on in that room to provide some light for night photos. if its on the warm end of the light spectrum (less than 3500k) it shouldn't disrupt the mycelium's circadium rhythm too much
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
#21894893 - 07/03/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've dealt with uncontrollable depression my whole life, led to addictions and downfalls of my own. But things like opiates, cocaines, alcohol even- they only provide a brief moment of escape.
So I'm glad you are here- for mushrooms do not give a temporary escape- they can heal you on a physical, mental, and spiritual level. I quit a serious habit cold turkey because of one mushroom trip. I hate to even call them trips, they are experiences. I've gotten over death and loss, I've been shown the right paths to take- and which ones not to- both in the waking world and in my chaotic and often outright frightening psyche.
I wish you all the success that one could come by in mycology- and I hope they show you a different path. And please don't feel like I'm judging, I'm not at all- I've been there, I know many who were too- take this trip seriously as it may save your life.
As someone else said "I just don't want to see anyone's life ruined" If you ever need to talk about your depression feel free to PM me.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: TravelAgency]
#21895167 - 07/04/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FriedEgg said: you could leave one of your normal house lights on in that room to provide some light for night photos. if its on the warm end of the light spectrum (less than 3500k) it shouldn't disrupt the mycelium's circadium rhythm too much
I've got it sorted, I've just switched to the mechanical shutter for night time. No idea why but the electronic shutter only goes out to 1s whereas the mechanical shutter works out to an unlimited amount of time (B or bulb from back in the day when the shutter would be held open from the air pressure coming in from a little bulb) when all the mechanical shutter does is flip up the first curtain, cover the sensor (it's a mirrorless so the sensor remains uncovered, unlike DSLRs so and then the second curtain drops then the process is repeated. Thing is, the electronic shutter is just the sensor switched on with no mechanical shutter and at long exposures, like 60s all that happens is the sensor is exposed for 60s. Why an open sensor can't just take in light for longer than 1s is beyond me. I bet a firmware hack would fix it. Turns out that if I'm shooting every ten minutes for 12h it's only like 200 shots. I can live with 800-1000 shutter actuations for a stopmotion of this, the camera body is rated to 100k anyway. It just comes to selling it, if the camera keeps a record of how many there were (some do to stop second hand buyers getting screwed Quote:
"It's been sitting in my garage all these years, I swear"
when he's had the camera out every day doing stuff like street photography where you might get 100 captures a day, depending on how many interesting happenings there are.
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TravelAgency said: I've dealt with uncontrollable depression my whole life, led to addictions and downfalls of my own. But things like opiates, cocaines, alcohol even- they only provide a brief moment of escape.
So I'm glad you are here- for mushrooms do not give a temporary escape- they can heal you on a physical, mental, and spiritual level. I quit a serious habit cold turkey because of one mushroom trip. I hate to even call them trips, they are experiences. I've gotten over death and loss, I've been shown the right paths to take- and which ones not to- both in the waking world and in my chaotic and often outright frightening psyche.
I wish you all the success that one could come by in mycology- and I hope they show you a different path. And please don't feel like I'm judging, I'm not at all- I've been there, I know many who were too- take this trip seriously as it may save your life.
As someone else said "I just don't want to see anyone's life ruined" If you ever need to talk about your depression feel free to PM me.
Thanks bro. Personally I'd be an advocate of the endorphin system being key to mood. They've already proven that physical and psychological pain use the same areas of the brain on a PET scan (it may have been an FMRI) essentially they got a medium group of volunteers with mild depression to play a 'game' that they thought they were playing with other people in other test rooms, in fact they were playing against a computer, it was a game of throw and catch the ball and slowly the computer (3 other players) would exclude the person in the scanner, that's when the scans started to show the people in the machines were in pain. Problem is; if the medical societies start to admit that endorphin is key to refractory depression they have only one medicine they can give out to cure it; opiates. A test was done on a small group of people with refractory depression who had been given everything and nothing had worked, the doctors used low (1-2mg/day) doses of buprenorphine and the patients showed >80% improvement (if I've gotten my figures right), now bear in mind; no other antidepressant worked for these people. The current medical consensus is that only the monoamines (Dopamine, Serotonin and Noradrenaline) cause depression when antidepressants with a slight opiate effect (TCAs and venlafaxine) have a higher success rate than those that don't.
In my mind it really comes down to "Do you want to do the right thing and potentially risk job, or do you want to go to the next pfizer conference and hand out pills which are addictive in their own right (they claim SSRIs are non-addictive, 'withdrawal' has been changed to 'ssri discontinuation syndrome' and they've only admitted the existence of SSRI withdrawal oh sorry discontinuation syndrome 20 years after their release) and are barely more effective than placebo. Doctors in the UK used to hand out Heroin in tablet form for depression in the 40s to the 60s/70s then that criminal Nixon started the war on drug users, probably to fill up a nice DEA slush fund for retirement. They stopped after the war on drugs started and started using inferior meds.
The drug war makes money for those with too much already and takes from all of us. Be it shrooms from a pharmacy or morphine for your depression it would be a brighter future.
Since I'm on subs I get a key worker (basically someone to chat to while my script gets printed) and I pitched the legalise everything, educate and make parents do their jobs for once, rather than letting their kids grow up on television. He came at me with something that had apparently stumped the last person who said this to him "What if you're going in for surgery and your surgeon has been on a crack binge all weekend, would you want crack to be legal" apparently the last person said "Oh well ban crack then" I came back at him "What if your surgeon has been drinking all weekend and can barely see due to the hangover, would he remain a surgeon for long? Once you get an MD should you be banned from consuming alcohol just like priests are supposed to be married to God? It's been a year, he still hasn't thought up a response.
Personally though I'm highly libertarian, guns (I'm from the UK) should have their restrictions dialled down drastically; the only semi auto weapon you are allowed to have is a rimfire .22 rifle. My crossbow probably puts out more energy than one of those. Pistols (well they are legal under licence in Northern Ireland yet airguns require a licence; kneejerk laws, highly typical of the UK) selectable fire automatic rifles 'assault weapons' should be legal under licence as well as everything short of anti tank and anti aircraft missiles (though in NI we have enough of those anyway) should be fine to get a licence for. The criminals already have guns (which is why I have a bow, people tend to comply a lot more if you use a laser dazzler and bright light on them while aiming a cocked and loaded broadhead 5cm wide at them. We got robbed once and the bastards took the car, my mother chased them (I was about 12 at the time) but they were in the car by the time she got there, they went to the top of the road, did a 180 and if it wasn't for me pulling her back into the driveway they would have run her down. Legally it would have been a crime to give chase in another vehicle. Since life is worth more than property, even if the people taking your property seem to think your property is free and when someone tries to fight back killing them is A okay.
Once again I prattle on, this was about depression and now it's about making firearms more accessible. I miss my cat that died around Christmas, she knew when it was time to stop typing and would walk on the keyboard until I stopped. Extremely clever cat, when my dad was still alive he taught her how to play fetch.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
#21895185 - 07/04/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I notified a moderator that this was a double post. This is no longer the case. Please don't remove me 
Anyways, if this harvest goes well I'm thinking about what to do next harvest (well the third grow actually), could I (very carefully) cut the sides off the container so I essentially have one big cake that can side pin and side grow or would it not hold water/fall apart then for my forth I was thinking of getting a grille and placing that in the bag with the mushrooms inside free of their box so they can grow every which way, or again would the watered substrate fall apart or would the mycelium hold it together?
EDIT: I haven't heard the machinations the the camera as of late (never mind it's still shooting after 17 hours, the in-built stop motion system seems to be smart enough to kill all but the timing circuit before taking a shot; I wouldn't be surprised to see two or three bars when I take it out in an hour or two) so it's a (not) good bet it got low on battery and saved the stop-motion, still it's 5pm here and I put it on at 12am. A computer screen provided just enough light at night for the mechanical shutter, which seemed to be open for 60s so I've no idea of what the background noise will be like. A problem has arisen that the shrooms are now getting too big for the bag; pins touching the sides and stuff, I'd assume this may stunt their growth. Should removing one of the two folds and re-clipping be a wise idea? Also once they really are too big for the bag should I just invert the bag and blu-tack it to a surface?
Basically follow this order -Remove one of the two folds (mold trap probably, just like pasturer's experiments though everything looks healthy and strong) - Once the mushrooms again look and feel trapped, remove that last fold. Put a thin cloth over the top to reduce contamination - Once the mushrooms are near picking time, look for a larger housing for them to grow up into, probably the bag turned upside-down
Edited by Diacetylmorphine (07/04/15 03:08 PM)
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