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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Mad Season]
    #21877913 - 06/30/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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And yet another grow kit thread. Except this guy followed the grow kits directions. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21877581/vc/1#21877581

Don't let it get like this.



Quite right, it's got it's own little microclimate in there, though cutting holes in the bottom will remove CO2 better than the sides, definitely.

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And yet another grow kit thread. Except this guy followed the grow kits directions.



All I did was make sure the temperature was a perfect 23 degrees (I'd just noticed direct sunlight on it and a temp climb to 25c so I closed the curtains), used soap and scrubbed with a nailbrush up to my elbows, put it in the bag and misted daily. Unless it gets infected with something now I should hopefully get a good harvest.
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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21877964 - 06/30/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you're interested in the physics of it all keep reading :smile:

You are over thinking it a bit. Although true co2 is heavier, that would only happen in a vacuum. Air pressure and current swirls air around so much it's just a blend of particles. They're so light it doesn't take much to do so, thus you'd need a vacuum. This is actually more dependant on air currents caused by water vapor (humid air vs dry air)

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We know humid air rises because it's less dense than drier air. So, the humid air inside the mono should rise up and out the top holes, right? Because it's less dense than the drier air in your grow room, right?

You can see evidence of this if you put a substrate in the mono and leave the holes completely open. You will see the substrate drying faster near and around the bottom holes. This is because the humid air flowing out the top creates a vacuum that pulls fresh dry air in through the bottom and causing drying.

We don't want this to happen because mycelium weakens and the substrate becomes more prone to contamination as it dries.




In this case you'd stuff the bottom holes tight with polyfil to reduce the amount of dry air coming in.

In your case you can just poke a small amount of holes, and even tape them back up if it's too much. Hope this helps and explains everything :smile:


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21878245 - 06/30/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the mycelium looks somewhat slimy under a bright light; is this normal?




that's bacteria.


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: spacechildo]
    #21878697 - 06/30/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the mycelium looks somewhat slimy under a bright light; is this normal?




that's bacteria.



Don't think so, looks more like wet mycelium and the other signs of bacteria aren't there (failure to flourish; my knots have started becoming minipins, bad smells; if anything it smells neutral, slightly mushroomey) I think when I sprayed the mycelium gently it got a coat of water and a bright light is making that coat of water glisten much more than a normal light (it's one of the super-bright single LED focus lights made out of aluminium), so far everything seems to be going okay; all the knots are growing, more myc is growing (though it's more wispy than before) and new knots are growing out of that myc.
Hopefully fingers crossed, touch wood, etc I should have a nice harvest around the first or second week of July.


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21878705 - 06/30/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

glistening water looks fresh, bacteria looks slimey. what you said doesnt make sense regarding why it cant be bacteria..

FAE beats bacteria. bacteria needs stale wet air to thrive. mushrooms love fresh air.
5-15 mins of direct sunlight every day can also help beat bacteria. :sun:


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: spacechildo]
    #21881770 - 07/01/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning. I'll post up some images though the 'slime' seems to have just been water under an extremely bright light, however since you've a bit more experience help is always nice.

Sorry for the narrow depth of field but I was shooting with a with a flashgun attached at F/8.0 (you'll probably only understand that if you understand or do photography)
In layman's terms I had the iris on the camera closed over a good bit so needed a flash (since it was the typical 'mount on camera' flash I fired at the ceiling, to give more even lighting) if I were to close the iris much more I'd lose image quality whereas F/8 is usually where most lenses perform best.



Here's one taken using the same settings from the side, I was further away from the subject and the box is 'shallower' from the side.

I'm sorely tempted to order a second battery (or a DC in 'battery') and do a stop motion shoot of the rest of the growth if you guys think it's healthy. It's an albino strain, hence the white mini-pins. Does anyone know of a stop motion of albino shrooms or would this be a first? If it were to be a first I'd definitely go for it.


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21881872 - 07/01/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?

I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: godisamushroom]
    #21881970 - 07/01/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning.
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My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?

I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush



What?
Look at the most recent pics, it's day 6 and they're pinning like crazy.
I've decided to do a (partial) time lapse since they grew even more in two hours, now I have the biggest one growing on top of another reasonably big one. This seems to be a relatively fast strain, or else just a decent grow kit; or maybe I just got lucky due to the speed and reported potency of it I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I all goes well I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21882584 - 07/01/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Looks healthy. :thumbup:


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21882597 - 07/01/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning.
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My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?

I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush



What?
Look at the most recent pics, it's day 6 and they're pinning like crazy.
I've decided to do a (partial) time lapse since they grew even more in two hours, now I have the biggest one growing on top of another reasonably big one. This seems to be a relatively fast strain, or else just a decent grow kit; or maybe I just got lucky due to the speed and reported potency of it I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I sold it  I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.




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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21882636 - 07/01/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I sold it I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.




needle exchange?  what are you, a heroin addict?  (looks at username..... oh)

and yea we dont talk about selling drugs here  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21883054 - 07/01/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that's probably how kits started out, people wanting to sell shrooms to make money
but didnt know shit about growing them nor cared to learn so they threw some perlite under a bunch of verm and sold it as a "grow your own fucking mushrooms" kit :lol:


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21884602 - 07/01/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if all goes well it I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.




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needle exchange?  what are you, a heroin addict?  (looks at username..... oh)




Ex Heroin addict (though I still use occasionally) on substitution and current benzo addict (tapering), though I don't see why other drug users bother to judge other drug users on the drugs they use. I've never stolen from anyone or committed fraud to get any H when I was using, if money was low I switched to pod tea. The whole Heroin stigma is another thing bashed into your head by the government; they show you videos of maybe the worst 5% and then say "This is what a Heroin addict looks like", I urge you to watch channel 4's "The truth about Heroin"; a government minister used for years and only stopped when he said he had to stop and told his GP. Heroin itself in it's purest form is physically harmless over the long term (apart from some endocrine changes, all which go when you stop taking it) unless you call physical dependency harm. Over the short term overdose can be reversed by one shot of naloxone, so the current strategy here is to hand out naloxone to addicts,  teach CPR I sort of ended up teaching my instructor CPR (he forgot finer sweeps for anything blocking the airway that you don't want to push into the lungs; me doing plenty of medical stuff up to suturing wounds and the like) and now am a proud owner of an antidote that reverses overdose in minutes, I've had to get a second, because one already saved a life using it, with alcohol it's gastric lavage and a tube down your throat  Switzerland, Germany and Denmark have started giving their addicts Heroin (Austria uses morphine, oral slow release where each user gets his second 12 hour pill as a take-home dose from day one) and all these programmes have been a resounding success with people who were homeless and destitute getting a job and starting a family after years of addiction.
One odd co-incidence is that one year after the Taliban ordered a ban on Heroin (and illicit stocks dropped by about 50% or more) the Coalition forces invade the country in search of one man, the Taliban who they funded and armed became criminals overnight and now there is more, purer Heroin to be found than before the war to find one man, who wasn't even in the country at the time. I've heard stories of people quitting the armed forces because their core objective while deployed was "defend this poppy field from Taliban attack" if I was an intelligent individual I'd ban a substance then start up a black market for it, gram by gram making it worth more than gold. Both the CIA and the FBI have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar more than once, back in the Vietnam days mysterious empty planes would take off with far more fuel than an empty plane should need, of course if you asked "it's a need to know thing and you don't need to know" turns out those planes were loaded with opium and Heroin.
But the general tl;dr part here is you use drugs; I use drugs and if you're going to play the 'addictive' card. Do you drink? Or worse, are you a smoker? because alcohol is addictive (and causes far more harm to the body than H) you've just fallen prey to years of disinformation, because how else could the government keep a drug that is physically harmless over the long term and easily cured over the short term illegal. Simple; make the users look like pond scum.
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and yea we dont talk about selling drugs here  :cookiemonster:



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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21884686 - 07/01/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whoa:

Many many years ago I was actually a heroin addict. I've seen and experienced the ugly "endocrine" changes you speak of and they are no joke.  Yes I agree it's one of the healthiest drugs you can do (that's exactly what lead me to fool myself into thinking it was ok) but it's the most dangerous.  You say you're an ex addict but you still talk like an addict.  If you want to get high once in a while, do kratom once a week.  It's not strong but once your tolerance drops to normal, it'll do the job.  I've been clean for a long time except the occasional kratom and hydrocodone use and I lead a much happier life now. 

PS. You might be better off just buying a 10ml syringe from a mycology supply store. Those 30ga 1cc insulin syringes will get really annoying.


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21884719 - 07/01/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I never said those things :lol:
but I get it its easy to fuck up the quote thing!


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: spacechildo]
    #21884729 - 07/01/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21884895 - 07/01/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:whoa:

Many many years ago I was actually a heroin addict. I've seen and experienced the ugly "endocrine" changes you speak of and they are no joke.  Yes I agree it's one of the healthiest drugs you can do (that's exactly what lead me to fool myself into thinking it was ok) but it's the most dangerous.  You say you're an ex addict but you still talk like an addict.  If you want to get high once in a while, do kratom once a week.  It's not strong but once your tolerance drops to normal, it'll do the job.  I've been clean for a long time except the occasional kratom and hydrocodone use and I lead a much happier life now. 

PS. You might be better off just buying a 10ml syringe from a mycology supply store. Those 30ga 1cc insulin syringes will get really annoying.




Nice to see someone who's not bought into the 'big lie' as C4 put it. However the exchange I go to will give me 5mls if I ask nicely. They do 2mls up 20 20ga, nevershares which are 30ga and are the shit if you're doing IV drugs since the needle can be popped off, allowing you to filter without blunting the needle. Smack addictiion isn't a fun game but when your doctor won't give you anything for the agony I still experience naturally a person will turn to illicit outlets.
I went into IV with 2 others who said "Oh it'll be a one time thing", I was the only one wise enough to say "Nope, this'll wreck our lives but I hurt so fucking much physically and emotionally (severe depression at this point; they've proven that physical and psychological pain come from the same areas of the brain using PET scans) I'd rather go down this path than leave my mother alone since my father took his own life when I was 6. I took the best out of two bad choices.


EDIT: The stopmotion has started. When I have it all wrapped up there will likely be 'jumps' in growth as I give the shrooms a dark environment (longer than a 60s shutter opening/exposure time can't do and I'm not even sure the electronic shutter (which I'm using as a focal plane (mechanical) shutter is a piece of mechanical equipment, reasonably expensive to replace and stopmotions can exist of over 4000 shots, whereas the electronic shutter works like the shutter on your phone, no 'DSLR snap' and no moving parts apart from in the lens, where it'll be coming into focus then stopping down to f4 which gives a good balance between exposure time and depth of field (how much is in focus). I'll lose image quality but gain longevity in a £400 camera body) as well as that as good as the battery is it'll need charged every so often, though the stopmotion mode seems pretty good so far, the screen and viewfinder (It's a mirrorless) are both off as is the 'on' light except for every 7 mins when it takes a shot, the on light goes out straight after, which I assume means the image sensor is also being killed. This; in layman's terms means I should be able to get 12+hrs of shooting out of it so I'll probably rig it up as <shrooms growing> <screen darken> and lighten for 5 or so seconds then <shrooms growing>
It should give you guys a good idea of how good these growboxes are.


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    #21886154 - 07/02/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP, I was asking why you haven't tried shrooms yet if you knew people growing them in the past with massive flushes?

Nice progress btw


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    #21886163 - 07/02/15 02:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just to ask for a few more words of wisdom. I've poked a couple of holes in the bottom and one fairly big one at the top (you can almost feel the air being pulled in, or expelled out) however it's very hot and dry at the moment. The instructional says to mist at least once a day to keep it humidified. I take it since it's so dry the mist is drying off the edges of the bag (I gave the mycelium a little mist too, looked a little dry for my liking though from about 1m away so it only got a fine coating and most of the mist missed it), should I just mist when I see signs of drying? I don't even need to open the bag, the tip of the mister fits nicely in the holes and gives me a good arc to aim for.

Also when I got the mister I made sure it was sterilised (used 80 deg water) and then used boiled water that I cooled in a (previously sterilised with boiling water and microwaves) pyrex jar with ice, salt and water, I then put that in with clean hands and a mask (well a silk scarf but who can be picky) on. Should that water still be good or should I change it since the mister has to take in air to replace the water volume?

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OP, I was asking why you haven't tried shrooms yet if you knew people growing them in the past with massive flushes?

Nice progress btw




This happened two or 3 times. At these times I was either in total benzoland or too doped up on smack to get them in time, they're so damn rare here by the time I had cash for them they were gone. I've talked to others through IRC chat on the world's favourite drug imageboard, as well as seeing threads there of people buying these kits and getting decent flushes.
Interesting really, psychedelics have been key to me stopping the stuff and doing a really harsh intensive taper on the benzos I've currently an issue with. I was on 30mg of flubromazolam a fortnight ago. Two 1.3mg doses of 25i NBOH (a gentler version of NBOMe without the tolerance increase) later and now I'm down to just over 10mg. I plan to drop in half milligrams weekly now and switch to diclazepam when I'm at 1mg a day and continue my reduction. It's a pity this shit's illegal one big dose of acid/shrooms/2c-x/NBOx with a drug counsellor in a comfortable area would be worth 100 sessions. No wonder it's illegal.


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Re: Growbox 100% cultivated. Is this the start of pinning? Pics, high res and crops (photographic crops. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #21886512 - 07/02/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've got today's pics; yep definitely pinning.
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My only question for this whole thread, how have you known people that used the exact same grow kit you are using, who got massive flushes, and you didn't even get a shroom?

I give mine out like candy on halloween, especially if I got a massive flush



What?
Look at the most recent pics, it's day 6 and they're pinning like crazy.
I've decided to do a (partial) time lapse since they grew even more in two hours, now I have the biggest one growing on top of another reasonably big one. This seems to be a relatively fast strain, or else just a decent grow kit; or maybe I just got lucky due to the speed and reported potency of it I'll definitely print one or two caps and set up a spore syringe (I'll just grab everything for free from a needle exchange) and do shrooms on top of DMT teks; if I sold it  I could probably rent a small enough place to set up for some real chemical magic.




:badmanthisfeels:  :trollcop: Take that somewhere else bro.





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