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Galba Cubensis
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878112 - 06/30/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: I burn all those garbage cubes in my fire pit.
Dude! Dude!!! I give out free hugs too, please have one
Did I miss your answer to cloning tha badddiestestest? Scratch that, Im more interested in how often you eat shrooms now, or how many times youve eaten it? Are you asking essentially what constitutes good potency in a shroom/batch?? Because if not then you gotta be asking what Ive been thinking you are the whole way, which isnt hard (well it is to me;) as you can see. That leaves ppl thinking you may have a godly tolerance, which again begs the question why. I hope youre asking what constitutes a good shroom;)
EDIT: Ok I saw it, came meanwhile.
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6Silent9Knight6 said:
STarting ms on agar and isolating that way is a waste of time if the spores/or strain is bunk to begin with, imo.
Isolation is good for one thing and one thing only.... and it mainly has to do with cosmetics of the fruits.... Like... isolate and fruit your monocultures... Some will produce little fruits, big fruits and then little fruits with huge clusters vs huge fruits with huge clusters...
So basically, clone a potent bomb ass ms spore fruit... then isolate until you get consistent big fruited clusters... That way you get the most of of your yeilds.
I may have misunderstood something I learned somewhere, or I may have misunderstood you. But I think the point of isolation is to weed out the, excuse the expression everyone ( ), retards. Think of it like this: If we were to throw together many billion human eggs with many billion human spermatocytes and lay that out on a giant agar where the embryos could grow and somehow multiply outwards from the center, some of these would be lesser genetic examples and some better genetic examples than the average. Isolation chooses the best, its not just cosmetics (phenotype), its also potency/quality/yield/whateveryouwannacallit (genotype) too. Or am I wrong???
Edited by Galba Cubensis (06/30/15 01:37 PM)
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#21878153 - 06/30/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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my tolerance is not godly at all. Like I said in previous posts (i know tldr) my tolerance will die down in a week and I can feel full effects of a trip after that. MY bar for potency is just set higher than MOST and that's why my friends enjoy the fruits but I don't because I know the true potential of what a trip really could be.
Maybe I'll start a separate thread on how to gauge potency...
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Galba Cubensis
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878188 - 06/30/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some ppl already touched on this. You physical tolerance maybe, but your mental tolerance is never reset, it may go back sometimes, but never resets completely, that would equal forgetting absolutely ever trip you ever had no?
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878232 - 06/30/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: Isolation is good for one thing and one thing only.... and it mainly has to do with cosmetics of the fruits....

try looking for something else next time you clone and you wont have to make threads like this
Edited by spacechildo (06/30/15 01:55 PM)
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#21878235 - 06/30/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Indoles are indoles dude. There's not even isomers of those chemicals.
indoles are indoles dude? I don't get what your saying
This mushroom alone contains indole-3-acetic acid, two indole alkaloids, baeocystin and im sure many intermediates. Are you saying that all indoles are the same dude?
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Galba Cubensis]
#21878256 - 06/30/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well the reason why we clone and preserve strains is because we want to feel the effects of that trip... over and over and over again. If tolerance was an issue than no one would really care for cloning since you'd never be able to feel that trip again anyways...
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I may have misunderstood something I learned somewhere, or I may have misunderstood you. But I think the point of isolation is to weed out the, excuse the expression everyone ( ), retards. Think of it like this: If we were to throw together many billion human eggs with many billion human spermatocytes and lay that out on a giant agar where the embryos could grow and somehow multiply outwards from the center, some of these would be lesser genetic examples and some better genetic examples than the average. Isolation chooses the best, its not just cosmetics (phenotype), its also potency/quality/yield/whateveryouwannacallit (genotype) too. Or am I wrong???
yeah so in ms grows you'll see aborts, small fruits, big fruits, clusters, non clusters.... Isolation is just a technique to get consistent fruits... i.e. all big clusters, all small fruits, all big fruits/noncluster...etc.
As far as isolating in hopes that you'll find the culture with potent fruits... Good luck trying all the cultures out.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: spacechildo]
#21878264 - 06/30/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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try looking for something else next time you clone and you wont have to make threads like this 
I isolated 30 different monocultures and fruited them to look for a potent strain and that's what I learned. It's not a good method for finding potent fruits.
Edited by Leviticus969 (06/30/15 01:58 PM)
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Mad Season
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878278 - 06/30/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you're dosing weekly, you can easily try out 5 clone fruits in a month and a bit. Just make sure to keep the one you cloned from separate to remember what one you are supposed to eat
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spacechildo
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878299 - 06/30/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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try looking for something else next time you clone and you wont have to make threads like this 
I isolated 30 different monocultures and fruited them to look for a potent strain and that's what I learned. It's not a good method for finding potent fruits.
you learned that the only reason to isolate strains is cosmetic? I dont believe you took 30 clones and didn't find anyone who was more or less potent than the others!
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: spacechildo]
#21878317 - 06/30/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was mainly isolating for potency. I don't care how fruits look as long as I get shot to the moon. And no, I didn't test them all out. After about the 5th or 6th test I just tossed em all out since i didn't notice any difference in potency from any of those. I also had friends test them and oh what do you know "yeah these are hella potent!"
Still wasn't what I was looking for.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Mad Season]
#21878326 - 06/30/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eating shrooms every other week is easy... eating bad shrooms that give me bad trips that include nausea, anxiety, and twisted thoughts with no fun, visuals, etc. is hard.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21878344 - 06/30/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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preschooler said:
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bodhisatta said: Indoles are indoles dude. There's not even isomers of those chemicals.
indoles are indoles dude? I don't get what your saying
This mushroom alone contains indole-3-acetic acid, two indole alkaloids, baeocystin and im sure many intermediates. Are you saying that all indoles are the same dude?
No that's not what I said at all. Lab made or shrooms made psilocin, baeocystin etc are all identical. Mushrooms don't make different psilocin than you can by jamming atoms together yourself. Take a chemistry course
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878350 - 06/30/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: "yeah these are hella potent!"
Still wasn't what I was looking for.
so you ask how to get them potent, but when you get potent shrooms its not what you're looking for... makes sense....
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878362 - 06/30/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: Eating shrooms every other week is easy... eating bad shrooms that give me bad trips that include nausea, anxiety, and twisted thoughts with no fun, visuals, etc. is hard.
Dude its not the shrooms that give you anxiety and twisted thoughts, that is your mindset its all you
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: spacechildo]
#21878368 - 06/30/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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preschooler said:
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bodhisatta said: Indoles are indoles dude. There's not even isomers of those chemicals.
indoles are indoles dude? I don't get what your saying
This mushroom alone contains indole-3-acetic acid, two indole alkaloids, baeocystin and im sure many intermediates. Are you saying that all indoles are the same dude?
No that's not what I said at all. Lab made or shrooms made psilocin, baeocystin etc are all identical. Mushrooms don't make different psilocin than you can by jamming atoms together yourself. Take a chemistry course
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spacechildo said:
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6Silent9Knight6 said: "yeah these are hella potent!"
Still wasn't what I was looking for.
so you ask how to get them potent, but when you get potent shrooms its not what you're looking for... makes sense....
Pan Cyan baby, eat 40g fresh and tell me how u feel, twisted mind is your mind, the chemical just magnifies it...
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21878371 - 06/30/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: Eating shrooms every other week is easy... eating bad shrooms that give me bad trips that include nausea, anxiety, and twisted thoughts with no fun, visuals, etc. is hard.
Notice no one says they're a high. They call them a trip not a high. This isn't a drug that's for the weak willed. I haven't really tripped to have fun in a long ass time. I go in with an open mind that anything goes. It's all up to fate to decide. I'm just along for the ride, if I learn anything great! If I don't that's fine too. Be open, loving, and free and it will be given in return.
I'm normally incapacitated for the first few hours of a trip. Getting what you say. You gotta stop focusing on the negatives of it and focus on what comes after or what you can gain from it.
Edited by Mad Season (06/30/15 02:29 PM)
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Mad Season]
#21878398 - 06/30/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you tested 5 or 6 clones and that's it for you. Talk about impatient. Were they all from the same ms grow? Sounds to me like a case of lazy. Also you still haven't answered my question. How are you drying them?
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21878469 - 06/30/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it was 5-6 monocultured isolates. But I had friends test a bunch also. They were 3 different strains from ms on agar. all different vendors, the strains.
I'm good at gauging my friends reactions. Asking them specific questions to gauge where the potency is for them.
Anyways, to answer your question pasty, i use a nesco dehydrator to dry my fruits but I know drying is not the issue since I usually eat them fresh anyways.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#21878471 - 06/30/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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preschooler said:
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bodhisatta said: Indoles are indoles dude. There's not even isomers of those chemicals.
indoles are indoles dude? I don't get what your saying
This mushroom alone contains indole-3-acetic acid, two indole alkaloids, baeocystin and im sure many intermediates. Are you saying that all indoles are the same dude?
No that's not what I said at all. Lab made or shrooms made psilocin, baeocystin etc are all identical. Mushrooms don't make different psilocin than you can by jamming atoms together yourself. Take a chemistry course
I would enjoy the chemisty class.. Yea ive heard shulgin say the same thing but we are talking about fungi and plants that often mutate. So I have hard time believing it would be completely identical. Especially when different mushrooms effect the body and mind completely differently from one to the next.
Just like some marijuana zombifies you and some energizes you. Its all thc correct?
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21878508 - 06/30/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Read how many cannabinoids make up weed before comparing it.. however pure thc will produce the same effects as pure thc. The only thing different is your brain chemistry. Not the chemical
Edited by Mad Season (06/30/15 03:10 PM)
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