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Leviticus969



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Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms
#21874532 - 06/29/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why?
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874548 - 06/29/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try horse poo. all I use. I've done TONS of MS, and not a single persons complained. I know genetics is a big role in making certain subs be more potent, I just haven't had potency issues on manure.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Mad Season]
#21874593 - 06/29/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My friends liked grows with the pf tek brf/verm. They always tell me it's so potent and "best they've ever had". And then I try it and think it's garbage because I know what true potent shrooms should be like. that's not what I MEAN BY POTENT. The idea of potency is not just "feeling it" but actually "FEELING IT"   . If that makes sense.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874609 - 06/29/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Drying techniques, genetics, maybe substrates too.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874615 - 06/29/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Idk then eat more.. when you drink liquor sometimes you can drink 6 pack+ and sometimes you're drunk on 2 cans. It's called mindset, and works with shrooms too. Also there's natural tolerances to consider. However it can be genetics too. That's why working with clones is better. Especially on stuff like coir and pf tek.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: oontribe]
#21874626 - 06/29/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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drying and substrate is not the issue. Everybody keeps saying genetics but what the hell does that even mean?
Does 1 gotta keep growing the same strain until all of a sudden theres a mutation in the genes and turns incredibly magically potent or something?
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874632 - 06/29/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: Why?
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874634 - 06/29/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eating more is not the answer. That's like saying smoke a lot of bunk weed... you'll get higher... Nope. I'd rather smoke .5g of some bomb ass strain of weed than 5grams of bunk weed and still feel nothing.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: PussyFart]
#21874639 - 06/29/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well than tell me how you do it? Cuz 2-3 years later and I'm still not able to find the potency that I crave and desire. It's getting absurd.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874645 - 06/29/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Read this. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21365919
It shows there's 10 million spores in a speck of black. When you shoot 1 cc per jar, you're shooting hundreds of millions of genetics all with their differences (mutations). Every mushroom on that jar will be different genetics because of the overload of genetics. Cloning and isolating genetics makes things more stable.
And yeah it is true. Eat more for better results. Smoke more to get higher.. what are you even saying?
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969] 1
#21874652 - 06/29/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try growing some exotics if cubensis aren't strong enough for you.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Mad Season]
#21874655 - 06/29/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What i'm saying is if you eat bad genetic shrooms... no matter how much more you eat... you'll just have a worst and worst trip. Versus... If you eat good genetic shrooms... the more you eat... the trip gets better and better and better.
The same with weed. You can smoke 5 grams of bunk weed and still feel NOTHING. vs .5 grams of good weed and get high as fuck
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874661 - 06/29/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rpw,
I would not move on to other unfamilar shrooms if i can't even figure out cubes. But i know, from past experiences, that cubes have the potential to be EXTREMELY magical. It's just rare to find is what im saying
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874669 - 06/29/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by RyeJar (06/29/15 05:55 PM)
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: RyeJar]
#21874680 - 06/29/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i won't get into penis envies, pan cyans, azurescens, or none of the other ones until I've mastered cubes.
I have a good feeling that the other varieties of shrooms may have you eating less for potency but as far as finding good genetics for them so that you can eat less and have a good trip will be hard also.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874690 - 06/29/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
6Silent9Knight6 said: rpw,
I would not move on to other unfamilar shrooms if i can't even figure out cubes. But i know, from past experiences, that cubes have the potential to be EXTREMELY magical. It's just rare to find is what im saying
Then you should probably look into isolating on agar. If you're starting from MS and are having consistent problems with potency, some other factor is coming into play. Maybe it's your drying like others have said, but in my experience unpotent shrooms aren't too common of an occurrence.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874696 - 06/29/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I get what you're saying, but try cloning lots of genetics and testing them out and saving the best ones. Also try working with manure.
Weed and shrooms are very different. Weed is a lot more dependant on the grower to not be bunk, whereas a good shroom grower can still have bad genetics and bad shrooms. I have yet to complain from manure, and its all i work with. 3 grams messes me up close to the level of 2 hits of good acid.
Edited by Mad Season (06/29/15 06:00 PM)
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Leviticus969



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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: RPW]
#21874703 - 06/29/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've tried isolating on agar. fruited 30 different monocultures. Garbage. Waste of my time and energy. Oh, and to eat them all.... You've got to be joking.
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: Leviticus969]
#21874705 - 06/29/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is it also possible this lack of potency is due to your own body chemistry? After extended continued use, your brain chemistry will start to shift. Fewer receptors are made for the chemical to bind to, that sort of thing. Is it possible that rather than your mushrooms being less potent, you've just begun to build up a tolerance?
(This is an honest question, I have no experience with using shrooms so I am just basing this off my knowledge of general neuroscience and biochemistry)
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Re: Why is it so damned hard to get potent mushrooms [Re: matsc]
#21874721 - 06/29/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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tolerance is gone completely after a week. After that your shroom trip will be just as good as the first time you've ever done it. FOREVER
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