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Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder
    #21873494 - 06/29/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I need help on how I can help my good friend, who got caught with San Pedro powder. They said it was 50 grams of MESCALINE when it was actually 50 grams of SAN PEDRO POWDER, and probably 100-1000 mg of mescaline. A friend of mine who bought this got it 100% legally online from Peru, as incense. I don't think my friend admitted to consuming this, so could that uphold in court? Also they technically are lying about the case by saying it's 50 grams of an illegal drug when it's actually around a gram.               


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873503 - 06/29/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

im guessing its what they do with pot plants, they count the entire container.  So in this example they are counting the powder as a container inacense.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: makaveli8x8] * 3
    #21873513 - 06/29/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They need to test what the substance is.

If they found a 50g bag of green plant matter on me, and it looked similar to marijuana. For example: cut and sifted Mugwort, they would need to test it to make sure that it is the Marijuana that they claim it to be, they cant just say that it is because it looks similar.

In court, they need proof. If they dont have it, demand it.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873514 - 06/29/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Doesn't matter. The way the law works is that the whole thing (including the container) counts as pure drug. No one is going to believe it's incense. He might get probation or diversion, especially if it's his first time. However, he was remanded without bail. I would be curious as to why that was (did he have previous charges? Warrants? Old convictions?) as it may affect his sentence.

This is why you don't drive with drugs in the car.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873516 - 06/29/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

he has nice brows


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873529 - 06/29/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That was really stupid to have a pipe in plain view in a traffic stop:facepalm:


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: D.M.T] * 2
    #21873534 - 06/29/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

he probably thought the po po would be distracted by those glorious brows

they're so glorious and brow-like


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: shadyy]
    #21873537 - 06/29/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Failing to maintain his lane, loud exhaust, and a smoking device in plain sight?

Doesn't seem like your friend was being very cautious in the first place.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873540 - 06/29/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why do people always come here for "help" when their friend gets busted :lol:

What are we supposed to do? Get a lawyer is always the best answer.

Also if I were you I'd find all new friends.. Everyone you know seems to be getting busted lately. It's a sign man.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: shadyy] * 1
    #21873546 - 06/29/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: vinsue]
    #21873555 - 06/29/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm wondering how the police even knew it was mescaline or a mescaline-containing product. Was it labeled in the packaging? If so I guess they could have looked it up, but if not I'd venture to guess he told them a little too much.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873572 - 06/29/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Tybg said:
I need help on how I can help my good friend, who got caught with San Pedro powder. They said it was 50 grams of MESCALINE when it was actually 50 grams of SAN PEDRO POWDER, and probably 100-1000 mg of mescaline. A friend of mine who bought this got it 100% legally online from Peru, as incense. I don't think my friend admitted to consuming this, so could that uphold in court? Also they technically are lying about the case by saying it's 50 grams of an illegal drug when it's actually around a gram.               
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Why are your friends always getting busted for stuff?


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21873658 - 06/29/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

54 grams of mescaline fuck outta here


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873664 - 06/29/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Get a decent lawyer and he'll be fine


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: trampis]
    #21873667 - 06/29/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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trampis said:
Failing to maintain his lane, loud exhaust, and a smoking device in plain sight?

Doesn't seem like your friend was being very cautious in the first place.




Indeed. If you're going to drive around with illegal stuff, use a little common sense.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21873673 - 06/29/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Imagine doing time for 2 cuttings worth of powdered San Pedro :sad:

Let him get a good lawyer.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21873688 - 06/29/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

we're supposed to look past the stupidity of the his actions and blame the stupidity of the laws

DUHHHHH that's how these thing work


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Asante]
    #21873690 - 06/29/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

having processed material in any way shape or form is not good, it reveals intent with out a doubt,

i wish him luck


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Asante]
    #21873702 - 06/29/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Imagine doing time for 2 cuttings worth of powdered San Pedro :sad:

Let him get a good lawyer.





No kidding. Them denying bail may be a bad sign it seems to me.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Le_Canard] * 1
    #21873744 - 06/29/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Asante said:
Imagine doing time for 2 cuttings worth of powdered San Pedro :sad:

Let him get a good lawyer.





No kidding. Them denying bail may be a bad sign it seems to me.



Well they have to deny the bail.. He's obviously a serious danger to society, they can't just cut him loose like all he did was get drunk and plow into an SUV with a bunch of kids in it..


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #21873753 - 06/29/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Obviously. If only he had stuck with Jesus approved, healthful alcohol he wouldn't be in this mess.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21873846 - 06/29/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Also they technically are lying about the case by saying it's 50 grams of an illegal drug when it's actually around a gram.               




So if somebody gets busted with 100 grams of cocaine, you think theyre gonna test purity and rewrite the charge as 5g? Doubt it. Its also a tactic they use so you plead guilty to lesser charges. 50g of mescaline is a big deal, but would you rather plead guilty and accept 6 months in jail or fight it and face 10 years in prison?


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #21874618 - 06/29/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks to those of you who provided helpful info. I talked with him earlier, and found out that the cop found the bag, and pulled the "If  you tell us what this is we'll go easy on you" trick, so he said it was mescaline, so there goes the whole incense defense. This is his first offense and he's a good kid so I hope for the best for him.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: D.M.T]
    #21874621 - 06/29/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That was really stupid to have a pipe in plain view in a traffic stop:facepalm:



I just found out that his friend left his bowl in the backseat after he dropped him off.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg] * 1
    #21874681 - 06/29/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Thanks to those of you who provided helpful info. I talked with him earlier, and found out that the cop found the bag, and pulled the "If  you tell us what this is we'll go easy on you" trick, so he said it was mescaline, so there goes the whole incense defense. This is his first offense and he's a good kid so I hope for the best for him.



What a fucking retard

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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21874691 - 06/29/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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100-1000 mg of mescaline.         




That right there screws him. He might even get a manufacturing charge as well.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21874700 - 06/29/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh I misunderstood I thought it was some pure mescaline HCL + the powder. Nevermind.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: ChinChiller]
    #21874709 - 06/29/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He might aswell of had pure mescaline HCL. Theyre treating it like he did.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21874891 - 06/29/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Tybg said:
Thanks to those of you who provided helpful info. I talked with him earlier, and found out that the cop found the bag, and pulled the "If  you tell us what this is we'll go easy on you" trick, so he said it was mescaline, so there goes the whole incense defense. This is his first offense and he's a good kid so I hope for the best for him.



Your friend is stupid, but it's not as if I hadn't made the mistake of trusting police before.

He needs a lawyer and he needs to shut up. Nothing else anyone here can do for him.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21874907 - 06/29/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Tybg said:I talked with him earlier, and found out that the cop found the bag, and pulled the "If  you tell us what this is we'll go easy on you" trick, so he said it was mescaline, so there goes the whole incense defense.




That was so stupid, for anyone reading this in the future...your best defense is to never ever listen/talk to police.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: ChinChiller]
    #21875044 - 06/29/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It wasn't the best decision making but not all people are shroomerites and are aware of their rights and know how police will lie and cheat to get you in to more trouble, so don't call him a "tard"


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21875054 - 06/29/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hes a tard


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: trampis]
    #21875064 - 06/29/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Failing to maintain his lane, loud exhaust, and a smoking device in plain sight?

Doesn't seem like your friend was being very cautious in the first place.




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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21875202 - 06/29/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He drives a somewhat street racing type car. Cops in my area look for reasons to pull kids over just so they'll get a chance to search their car. I and a few other friends have been pulled over for "failing to maintain lane" many times on that same road, and we're positive we were driving fine. As for the bowl in plain site, as I said before, he had no control over that, his stupid ads friend left it back their when he was dropping him off a few minutes earlier.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21875293 - 06/29/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldnt worry too much.

I got caught with acid candies and mushroom jars (back at my house, that they searched) from a rave sting.

They tested both my PF cakes and my smarties with LSD dropped on them. Both came back negative :lol:

Some police labs are stupid.

Just get a drug-offense lawyer and your friend should be fine. Its gunna cost some serious money thou :nonono:


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21875311 - 06/29/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The obvious answer is to just explain to the judge that it's his spiritual medicine and he will not stop using it. The judge will clearly understand this and drop all charges immediately and maybe even award him money for the troubles he's gone through.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: ostx]
    #21878456 - 06/30/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update: The kid that bought it online provided the website, and the online receipt, which showed that it was legally bought as "incense" and how it passed customs and whatnot. According to his lawyer this is a huge help, and may get him off scott free, hes currently on trial to see if he qualifies for bail.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg] * 1
    #21878532 - 06/30/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It wasn't the best decision making but not all people are shroomerites and are aware of their rights and know how police will lie and cheat to get you in to more trouble, so don't call him a "tard"




He was being a tard, he deserves to be called a tard.

It's stupid "tard" shit like this that puts heat on everybody else.

Fuck him.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg] * 2
    #21878546 - 06/30/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Tybg said:
Update: The kid that bought it online provided the website, and the online receipt, which showed that it was legally bought as "incense" and how it passed customs and whatnot. According to his lawyer this is a huge help, and may get him off scott free, hes currently on trial to see if he qualifies for bail.



It also would have helped a lot if he hadn't opened his big mouth and told them it was mescaline.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21878554 - 06/30/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was literally about to say the same thing. Why the fuck would he incriminate himself regardless if he knew his rights or not.

TARD


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Rafiikii]
    #21878618 - 06/30/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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having processed material in any way shape or form is not good, it reveals intent with out a doubt,

i wish him luck





Only way it would hold up in court is if it was extracted or processed into a tea... san pedro (even powder) is 100% legal and even a shit lawyer can get you out of this situation.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 1
    #21878626 - 06/30/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:notcoolman:

Some people are not aware of their rights? In the US, they fucking read them to you when you are arrested. The very first thing they say is that you have the right to remain silent, yet almost no one uses it.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21878639 - 06/30/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Gottaloveacid said:
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Rafiikii said:
having processed material in any way shape or form is not good, it reveals intent with out a doubt,

i wish him luck





Only way it would hold up in court is if it was extracted or processed into a tea... san pedro (even powder) is 100% legal and even a shit lawyer can get you out of this situation.



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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Tybg]
    #21878781 - 06/30/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

According to Erowid such cases are extremely rare. Like only a handful EVER. I think the prosecution might have second thoughts about taking this to trial. Selective prosecution is a real defense, considering these plants are sold on Amazon, EBay, and even your local Home Depot. Plus your friend wasn't caught actually extracting or consuming. He could have been making hippy soap with it :lol:

Either way it would take a pricey attorney to successfully argue that. With a public pretender he'll probably just have to suck it up and take a plea deal.


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Re: Help! Friend caught with San Pedro powder [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21880326 - 06/30/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Gottaloveacid said:
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Rafiikii said:
having processed material in any way shape or form is not good, it reveals intent with out a doubt,

i wish him luck





Only way it would hold up in court is if it was extracted or processed into a tea... san pedro (even powder) is 100% legal and even a shit lawyer can get you out of this situation.




Unless they can prove he planned on consuming it.


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