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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Aidan420]
#21888618 - 07/02/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aidan420 said: well ur mind can do crazy stuff
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: lessismore]
#21888660 - 07/02/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I wanted to attract abundance into my life I would do many good deeds without expecting anything in return
The universe then does an equal opposite reaction on me
To be able to give without expecting anything in return takes great energy though, only possible by being in that almost non-conscious state, the oneness state Your actions act by themselves, autopilot
You meet who you are You see who you are You do who you are (your inner self decides your actions)
Law of attraction is probably what is causing the synchronicity you are speaking about
"when the student is ready the teacher appears" And if the student is not ready, bad teachers appear - that is also possible
Some people may trip just to trip / take drugs, and reach the lowest state of being, carelessness, no responsibility in the world Then they meet more people like that
Some people may trip to find themselves, then they meet more people like that, and a teacher
Some people have found themselves and trip/meditate to heal the world, then they meet other shamans/lightworkers etc.
We cannot want to collapse quantum probability, wanting does not have the energy needed it seems We can collapse probability when we are in the oneness state - when we do good actions etc. Not only tripping gets us there, nature and meditation works just as well
What you put out comes back to you, that's the universe in action
It is not coincidental who you meet and talk to, who you know There are spiritual connections, even past several lifetimes it seems, same energy attracts alike energy
You must be who you want others to be
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: lessismore]
#21888701 - 07/02/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can judge a person by his friends
That's cause and effect in action, your inner state decides who your friends are
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: lessismore]
#21889166 - 07/02/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: We cannot want to collapse quantum probability, wanting does not have the energy needed it seems We can collapse probability when we are in the oneness state - when we do good actions etc. Not only tripping gets us there, nature and meditation works just as well
Less, I'm not ignoring you, but your posts don't seem to have any particular point to me. I realize you apparently don't actually understand what I'm working with and that's perfectly OK by me, but stop trying to convince me of what I already know, it's just a waste of your time. There is no "wanting" in these states, there is no conscious mind operating, there just is what happens, and it doesn't depend at all on intention, which is a conscious attribute of mind. That's why it's inherently interesting, the action of the drug affects far more than perception, it affects the underlying reality as well, and in profound, if sometimes subtle, ways.
If you attempt to "do good" you remain stuck in karma states and Saṃsāra - true, you may accrue merit if your intention is pure, but merit binds you to the cycle of rebirth just as strongly as demerit does. This is simply what anybody can realize by paying attention to how it works. Ordinary perception generates the illusion of ordinary reality, but the reality upon which such perception operates is no simulation, only the perception itself, which is inherently flawed. Again, anybody can realize this by paying attention to how it works. Claiming something is not the same as the thing itself. Buddha talked about this many times, so many times he must have gotten bored explaining it.
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Buddha then asked, "What do you think, Subhuti, does one who has entered the stream which flows to Enlightenment, say 'I have entered the stream'?"
"No, Buddha", Subhuti replied. "A true disciple entering the stream would not think of themselves as a separate person that could be entering anything. Only that disciple who does not differentiate themselves from others, who has no regard for name, shape, sound, odor, taste, touch or for any quality can truly be called a disciple who has entered the stream."
Buddha continued, "Does a disciple who is subject to only one more rebirth say to himself, 'I am entitled to the honors and rewards of a Once-to-be-reborn.'?"
"No, Lord. 'Once-to-be-reborn' is only a name. There is no passing away, or coming into, existence. Only one who realizes this can really be called a disciple."
"Subhuti, does a venerable One who will never more be reborn as a mortal say to himself, 'I am entitled to the honor and rewards of a Non-returner.'?"
"No, Perfectly Enlightened One. A 'Non-returner' is merely a name. There is actually no one returning and no one not-returning."
"Tell me, Subhuti. Does a Buddha say to himself, 'I have obtained Perfect Enlightenment.'?"
"No, lord. There is no such thing as Perfect Enlightenment to obtain. If a Perfectly Enlightened Buddha were to say to himself, 'I am enlightened' he would be admitting there is an individual person, a separate self and personality, and would therefore not be a Perfectly Enlightened Buddha."
Subhuti then said, "Most Honored One! You have said that I, Subhuti, excel amongst thy disciples in knowing the bliss of Enlightenment, in being perfectly content in seclusion, and in being free from all passions. Yet I do not say to myself that I am so, for if I ever thought of myself as such then it would not be true that I escaped ego delusion. I know that in truth there is no Subhuti and therefore Subhuti abides nowhere, that he neither knows nor does he not know bliss, and that he is neither free from nor enslaved by his passions."
And much more besides. When you abide with the source it's easy to see the flow and direct it. But not directing it is the highest action, IME, and that's where the truly interesting stuff lives.
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21889243 - 07/02/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am not attempting anything, I am not wanting anything, I do not crave anything, I do not wish for anything
At least not when I am balanced
What I wish for comes to me, because my actions are on auto pilot, in sync with the universe
btw. I don't find your research interesting at all, that's probably where your confusion comes from, but does that mean I am ignorant because my interests differ from yours? wanting binds you to the cycle of rebirth , and that also means wanting to discover the universe
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21889300 - 07/02/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has become a pseudo-philosophical circle jerk of blind assertions. I give up.
There may well be some good ideas in all of this, but we wont know until we sift through the bullshit. Come on people.
Also, I find the Buddhist ideal of detachment from physical ties and desires to be insulting to the beauty of nature. Sorry, but understanding the inner wisdom of the universe doesn't amount to jack shit if it can't be demonstrated in the real world. Instead of soul-stroking, let's try and make something productive out of this.
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
#21889320 - 07/02/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has become a pseudo-philosophical circle jerk of blind assertions. I give up.
There may well be some good ideas in all of this, but we wont know until we sift through the bullshit. Come on people.
Also, I find the Buddhist ideal of detachment from physical ties and desires to be insulting to the beauty of nature. Sorry, but understanding the inner wisdom of the universe doesn't amount to jack shit if it can't be demonstrated in the real world. Instead of soul-stroking, let's try and make something productive out of this.
Your perception is the right one?
Because others don't see what you see, that makes you better than them?
That makes them pseudo philosophers, delusioned etc. ?
Because you don't understand buddhist idea of detachment, due to lack of experience, you must be right that it is bullshit?
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: lessismore]
#21889403 - 07/02/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has become a pseudo-philosophical circle jerk of blind assertions. I give up.
There may well be some good ideas in all of this, but we wont know until we sift through the bullshit. Come on people.
Also, I find the Buddhist ideal of detachment from physical ties and desires to be insulting to the beauty of nature. Sorry, but understanding the inner wisdom of the universe doesn't amount to jack shit if it can't be demonstrated in the real world. Instead of soul-stroking, let's try and make something productive out of this.
Your perception is the right one?
Because others don't see what you see, that makes you better than them?
That makes them pseudo philosophers, delusioned etc. ?
Because you don't understand buddhist idea of detachment, due to lack of experience, you must be right that it is bullshit?
I never said that my opinions and views are to be taken as fact, nor did I say that any of you are necessarily wrong. All I'm saying is that before you can claim something as true or likely true, you need to provide some empirical, repeatable proof, not personal experience or anecdotal evidence, because human perceptions are indeed highly flawed.
Also, writing off my statement about buddhist ideals without actually addressing it by saying I don't understand the concept is doing exactly what you are accusing me of. How the hell do you know whether or not I understand it? How do you know that you fully understand it? Yet another unfounded assertion.
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
#21889511 - 07/02/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe deep down in the psyche we all share, at the very bottom, is the UFO.
I believe this UFO can literally do anything and is responsible for intelligence itself.
This ufo has been molding us to be like it for many years,
fuck anyone who says im crazy because I know what I experienced, and experienced what I know.
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21889516 - 07/02/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That UFO is the ether
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
#21889531 - 07/02/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moonzo said: That UFO is the ether
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21889588 - 07/02/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I believe deep down in the psyche we all share, at the very bottom, is the UFO.
I believe this UFO can literally do anything and is responsible for intelligence itself.
This ufo has been molding us to be like it for many years,
fuck anyone who says im crazy because I know what I experienced, and experienced what I know.

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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21889912 - 07/02/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I believe deep down in the psyche we all share, at the very bottom, is the UFO.
I believe this UFO can literally do anything and is responsible for intelligence itself.
This ufo has been molding us to be like it for many years,
fuck anyone who says im crazy because I know what I experienced, and experienced what I know.
Could have just called it God
besides, I think we just "tap" into that divine nature of things which allows such astonishing things to be seen, felt, and heard
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: voodoochild1000] 1
#21889956 - 07/02/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soul-Shine said: IME those who chase after psychic abilities do so out of a need to feel in control of themselves and or others. Whether or not you accept the existence of such states, they IMO should not be chased - especially without balancing the other energy centers. Meditate and live compassionately for its own sake. The kindness one cultivates will be of great assistance in achieving this sort of balance. Questions and their answers will begin reveal themselves naturally - similar to how the first group of sadhus were taught/learned the practices of Bhakti yoga. It awakens the kundalini energy at a steady pace. One can force it, but they should be prepared for some strange phenomenon following.
You cannot chase them, if it is for you, you would already know, your awareness would be open from birth
If you force open chakras you can get crazy, open the top chakra and lots of weird stuff can happen yup
Most people have blocked their energy/most chakras partially/completely
Bad actions towards others, negative thoughts, carelessness (about own body and others) are like a black sheet pulled on top of our chakras/energy points
A soul that is balanced has lots of will , energy, creativity, joyful emotions to share, ideas to share, creations to create, nothing excepted
There is no magic pill to take a shortcut, you will be back where you were before when it stops, and often even lower. The pill may just help you be introspective.
The raising of your frequency should be in your daily living, your actions, your thoughts. Clear your mind.
But yes we are all 'psychic/intuitive' normally, the soul is, but only when it is balanced A delusioned mind thinks it is psychic, but that is just delusions, soon it will think it got all the powers of the world, to feel powerful
Powerful is not what you want, to be yourself is what you want
.... great stuff bro!.... I feel as though my use of mushrooms has allowed me to understand these things a lot better. Chakras were something I never contemplated before mushrooms at least not seriously. Now I am trying to live my life with love and light and work on being conscious and cleaning my chakras for enlightenment! Tripping opens the mind so that we can understand consciousness and also consciousness opens our mind so that we can experience more when we're tripping! Tripping is dessert and consciousness is the main course! LOVE AND LIGHT!
 
I remember seeing colors in my mind when I was a kid, maybe 5-8 years old
Then now again at almost 30 is it starting to open up again, slowly more colors in meditation
But still nowhere near what I could do once, I could imagine anything in full color back then
When I meditate I can sometimes walk around in different places that can be fun, you can train your imagination
Your intuition opens up when you learn to live with relaxation and feeling instead of wanting. We unprogram our mind again.
So we're really all psychic, but most people just shut it off, imagination, creativity, joyful emotions
Your emotions and creativity are often linked
Your heart and visualization is linked
When we realign with the heart chakra in our lives we learn to create again, both in our minds and in the world, true creation - not "wanting creation"
But creation for the fun of it, the joy of creating and sharing
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: lessismore]
#21891463 - 07/03/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: So we're really all psychic, but most people just shut it off, imagination, creativity, joyful emotions
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
#21891485 - 07/03/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Ihateyou]
#21891493 - 07/03/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
#21892202 - 07/03/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you use psychedelics right you can upgrade your consciousness, but it is only temporary
It will show you what to do, levelup
The real upgrading starts after the trip, it seems many have upgraded their consciousness with these molecules through time, and it doesn't matter if you take LSD/shrooms/mesca , they all do the same thing for you when used right
Of course this will only work, to people who respect psychedelics as potential teachers/tools to open the mind, not to people who treat it as potential drugs just to get high A high is temporary, it is a wanting, wanting an instant effect, instant gratification
A good student has open ears and willing to work his/hers way even through hard times, little by little
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: cube talk]
#21892247 - 07/03/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I believe deep down in the psyche we all share, at the very bottom, is the UFO.
I believe this UFO can literally do anything and is responsible for intelligence itself.
This ufo has been molding us to be like it for many years,
fuck anyone who says im crazy because I know what I experienced, and experienced what I know.
Could have just called it God
besides, I think we just "tap" into that divine nature of things which allows such astonishing things to be seen, felt, and heard
But the important thing is, it was shaped as a UFO and it flew/hovered. It was gold and msde of energy
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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21892261 - 07/03/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I believe deep down in the psyche we all share, at the very bottom, is the UFO.
I believe this UFO can literally do anything and is responsible for intelligence itself.
This ufo has been molding us to be like it for many years,
fuck anyone who says im crazy because I know what I experienced, and experienced what I know.
Could have just called it God
besides, I think we just "tap" into that divine nature of things which allows such astonishing things to be seen, felt, and heard
But the important thing is, it was shaped as a UFO and it flew/hovered. It was gold and msde of energy
Eh, sounds like God to me
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