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Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities * 2
    #21873087 - 06/29/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So i'm trying not to jump to any conclusions... But...

One day i took 8 tabs (i wrote a report) and during the trip i realized i can see through the skin of the people im tripping with. I could see the person trapped behind the skin; it would often look like a ape-humanoid version of the person themself. I knew right away that this is no trip, this is actually happening, the soul/higher self is right there in front of me and i can somehow see it in everybody around right now. If i focus or tune into the eyeball of the individual the soul within becomes clearer, and clearer, more vivid and i can see the things that connect to it and stimulate it (all outside stimuli). I can see the patterns appear on the souls body when the individual is thinking of something or about to say something.

Anyways, this was DURING the intense trip.

When the high completely faded away (im talking a few days) i was continuously able to stare myself in the pupil and engage in the same hallucinations of the person behind the eyes. The trip was 5 months ago and i am still able to see the person behind anyones eyes if i chose to tune into it. The feeling of emptiness in the head, then displacing of the eyes, nose, and mouth from the face; primarily eyes, after that; a shading difference appears and the faces becomes shadowy, after that the face becomes unrecognizable and soon after i see the same hallucination of the higher self behind the skin. If i resonate hard enough (during meditation) this person behind the skin glides outside of the skin and when focus is broken, slips back into the body.

Usually when sober, i have to really tune into the feeling and make this halluncation occur (which i can do on command). But, before yesterday i did a half tab of some decent LSD and was able to see the souls of my mother, father, 4 of my little cousins, my brother, and 5 of the cousins my age. I can it clearer when they are lost in thought as it makes their higher self resonate more in its space.

I'm convinced that the feeling of oneness allowed me to unlock some sort of psychic power which allows me to see past the physical and more into the metaphysical aspects of people.

Now, since I can do it.. My belief would follow that we can all achieve this power and others if we are open to the concepts. I did try to obtain this power it just hit me that day and it's been 5 months and i have been able to continuously turn it on/off. If i look in the mirror right now i can do it.

Anyone have similar experiences?
Anyone wanna call me out on my bullshit, i already know it's impossible to believe?
Anyone know what i'm talking about?


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
    #21873921 - 06/29/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not saying bullshit but I know your mom.  And she doesn't have a soul.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Newscorp] * 1
    #21873970 - 06/29/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not going to call bullshit but you should test this out. Focus your ability on a good friend tell them what you see and ask if it's right. Then they can be the judge and call BS or confirm that you really do have these abilities, then get back to us I want to know more about it.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: tripN]
    #21874637 - 06/29/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.

My money is on you integrating your LSD experiences to the point where a psychedelic viewpoint or aesthetic has made an impression on your sober cognition.

As for any perceived telepathy or precognition, that can easily be explained by phenomena in group psychology. Your subconscious picks up on many subtle details in body language and other interpersonal expressions, but filters them out of conscious thought through latent inhibition. Use of psychedelics can decrease latent inhibition and create neuroplasticity, making a stronger connection between the conscious and subconscious mind. This can cause ideas to emerge suddenly in the mind, seemingly from nowhere, but in reality are just surfacing from deeper levels of consciousness.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless] * 2
    #21875240 - 06/29/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Starless said:
I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.




Just because there is no physical evidence for the soul doesn't qualify for the nonexistence of it. Science won't ever prove the soul - it's an empirical discipline, very limited in scope. Your logic implies that existence is dependent on evidence. How shallow of an outlook? Don't be so quick to judge possibilities, for all we know, everything exists.

& in my experience - I agree with Carl Jung, we are a psychic process. Not only that, but we have a soul that's identical with the One Self. In other words, Atman is Brahman. We are perpetual energy, One Light disguising as humans for a little bit. A universal God exists within each and every one of us, it's just not manifest. Peer within, awaken.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
    #21875353 - 06/29/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Damn Moonzo, thats some deep shit.

Ive had a similar experience mixing lsd,  shrooms, beer, tobacco and weed in the course of a night.

I was talking to this girl, and all of a sudden, i could see "into" her soul, like i understood her completely. It wasnt a visual thing, it was more i gain a higher ability to decode peoples emotions. It was pretty intense.

What you have moonzo is out of this world.

it would be really interesting for you to take LSD then watch a  friend take mushrooms or lsd or smoke DMT. That would be wild.

Or to test your ability by looking at a  person, writing down on paper what you  understand/see about their soul, then ask the person what they are thinking and feeling.

U should definitely explore this possible new ability.

My mom has told me stories of crazy psychic experiences. And i believe her. There is some strange metaphysical stuff out there thats not easily explained...


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: ImSl8]
    #21875552 - 06/29/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.




Just because there is no physical evidence for the soul doesn't qualify for the nonexistence of it. Science won't ever prove the soul - it's an empirical discipline, very limited in scope. Your logic implies that existence is dependent on evidence. How shallow of an outlook? Don't be so quick to judge possibilities, for all we know, everything exists.

& in my experience - I agree with Carl Jung, we are a psychic process. Not only that, but we have a soul that's identical with the One Self. In other words, Atman is Brahman. We are perpetual energy, One Light disguising as humans for a little bit. A universal God exists within each and every one of us, it's just not manifest. Peer within, awaken.




I never asserted that the soul doesn't exist, that would be foolish as it is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Whether or not the soul exists, it does not manifest tangibly in reality, so it cannot be tested for. This makes it impossible to even estimate the probability of it's existence, other than it is less likely than it's non-existence due to Occam's razor. The soul as a concept is completely useless as it does not fulfill a demonstrable function that is not already fulfilled by the brain.

The scientific model is the only reliable source of accurate and useful information that we have. It has produced most of the human understanding of reality and all of technology, including the computer that you are using now. Your criticism of it is ignorant and laughable. Science is the least limited concept ever devised, we as humans are simply limited in the application of it.

The time to make claims and assertions about things is when we can test and understand them, and not a moment before. Until then, the only intellectually credible thing to do is say 'I don't know', not make wild and unfounded claims about things we can't even begin to understand.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21875686 - 06/29/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm not going to call bullshit but you should test this out. Focus your ability on a good friend tell them what you see and ask if it's right. Then they can be the judge and call BS or confirm that you really do have these abilities, then get back to us I want to know more about it.




What can I tell the good friend?
The day i got back from the trip i told my friend that his face is morphing, i told him he is starting to look like his true self. He was confused and amused at the same time; he believes me because he knows my character but his response is "i just don't know what you're doing, but i believe that you're doing it". He claims he feels an overwhelming sense of observation/focus when i peer into him. I don't exactly look at someone and know all about them, i look at someone and visually they become the person behind their skin; the ghost inside.

Not a fortune teller or anything. I just don't see the elemental/physical body, i can see the spiritual body made of conscious energy.

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I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.




Just because there is no physical evidence for the soul doesn't qualify for the nonexistence of it. Science won't ever prove the soul - it's an empirical discipline, very limited in scope. Your logic implies that existence is dependent on evidence. How shallow of an outlook? Don't be so quick to judge possibilities, for all we know, everything exists.

& in my experience - I agree with Carl Jung, we are a psychic process. Not only that, but we have a soul that's identical with the One Self. In other words, Atman is Brahman. We are perpetual energy, One Light disguising as humans for a little bit. A universal God exists within each and every one of us, it's just not manifest. Peer within, awaken.




This part about the universal God exisiting within, i not only see another body within the individual/myself i see a universe of stars within the torso area and ancient patterns on the face of the souls which changes as the person thinks of something.

I can see that you are not doubting me, which i appreciate. The inside soul is almost identical to the physical self so the Jungmiester may have been on to something.

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Damn Moonzo, thats some deep shit.

it would be really interesting for you to take LSD then watch a  friend take mushrooms or lsd or smoke DMT. That would be wild.

U should definitely explore this possible new ability.





Glad you brought this up, the one time i gained this ability; a good friend of mine took a hit of DMT and stared at me in the eye. I began to induce the feeling of tuneness/oneness/nothingness into his eye and he shook his head in disbelief and said "woah", i continuously said "you saw it, you saw it, i know you saw it, i felt you see it". And he said "you're a human monkey" and i told him that i have been seeing that in myself since the big trip day. He said when the DMT wore off, his ability to tune in also wore off. I told him that he can bring it back the next time he does LSD, the next time he did LSD; we meditated together; brought it back and i continuously saw his spiritual body resonate outside of his physical body. He claimed to see it in me as well. He did however say that he can BARELY see it and explained that what i am describing is a very vivid, high definition example of what he is seeing.

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P.S. thank you LogicaL for following the majority of my posts since iv been here on Shroomery. <3


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo] * 2
    #21875698 - 06/29/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The world works in mysterious ways. What i experience cannot be quantified. If i had been in fear of what i was seeing i'd be mentally ill, some of you may think i already am. But i know what i am. I'm a spirit trapped in a body.

What better way to teach a lesson than to trap yourself in a body in a world  of infinite abstract symbols and be given the power to make meaning of what you are previewing??


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
    #21875722 - 06/29/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I came up with a theory whilst high.

A lot of people that smoke DMT claim to meet entities with profound knowledge of past, present, and future.

DMT is an endogenous neurotransmitter, already present in the human body.

What if people with "legitimate" psychic abilities are just producing larger amounts of endogenous DMT, which keeps a constant communication channel of sorts open to these realms.

I'm not claiming psychic abilities are real, I really have no idea. But if they are, there might be a scientific reason behind it.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: jsncrs]
    #21875742 - 06/29/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I came up with a theory whilst high.

A lot of people that smoke DMT claim to meet entities with profound knowledge of past, present, and future.

DMT is an endogenous neurotransmitter, already present in the human body.

What if people with "legitimate" psychic abilities are just producing larger amounts of endogenous DMT, which keeps a constant communication channel of sorts open to these realms.

I'm not claiming psychic abilities are real, I really have no idea. But if they are, there might be a scientific reason behind it.




Iv also thought about this, and related it to the mentally ill who i think produce higher amounts of DMT alongside neurochemical deviance.

We all have psychic abilities we are unaware of. My theory is that if i can do it, everybody in the world MUST be able to.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
    #21875969 - 06/29/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Starless said:
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ImSl8 said:
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Starless said:
I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.




Just because there is no physical evidence for the soul doesn't qualify for the nonexistence of it. Science won't ever prove the soul - it's an empirical discipline, very limited in scope. Your logic implies that existence is dependent on evidence. How shallow of an outlook? Don't be so quick to judge possibilities, for all we know, everything exists.

& in my experience - I agree with Carl Jung, we are a psychic process. Not only that, but we have a soul that's identical with the One Self. In other words, Atman is Brahman. We are perpetual energy, One Light disguising as humans for a little bit. A universal God exists within each and every one of us, it's just not manifest. Peer within, awaken.




I never asserted that the soul doesn't exist, that would be foolish as it is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Whether or not the soul exists, it does not manifest tangibly in reality, so it cannot be tested for. This makes it impossible to even estimate the probability of it's existence, other than it is less likely than it's non-existence due to Occam's razor. The soul as a concept is completely useless as it does not fulfill a demonstrable function that is not already fulfilled by the brain.

The scientific model is the only reliable source of accurate and useful information that we have. It has produced most of the human understanding of reality and all of technology, including the computer that you are using now. Your criticism of it is ignorant and laughable. Science is the least limited concept ever devised, we as humans are simply limited in the application of it.

The time to make claims and assertions about things is when we can test and understand them, and not a moment before. Until then, the only intellectually credible thing to do is say 'I don't know', not make wild and unfounded claims about things we can't even begin to understand.




ImSl8: You have a valid point. However, my criticism of science is equally as valid as your adulation for it. We merely choose to look at a different side of the same coin. Science can only toy with the objective world. You mustn't forget that our experience of consciousness is entirely subjective? In other words, science can only grasp an infinitesimal portion of the infinite spectrum of reality.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: ImSl8]
    #21876102 - 06/29/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You have a valid point. However, my criticism of science is equally as valid as your adulation for it. We merely choose to look at a different side of the same coin. Science can only toy with the objective world. You mustn't forget that our experience of consciousness is entirely subjective? In other words, science can only grasp an infinitesimal portion of the infinite spectrum of reality.




How so? Invoking subjectivity does not equivocate all probabilities, nor does it make all hypotheses equally valid. I realize that my personal perceptions and opinions are flawed, that is why I defer to empirical evidence and the scientific method, which has, without any exaggeration, proven to be effective in all cases. You however, are making claims about reality that you have yet to objectively substantiate in any way.

Do you believe in all untestable claims? If so, you are quite obviously wrong, as many of them would conflict quite severely. If you only believe in some, then you are engaging in arbitrary reasoning tantamount to wishful thinking. The same reasoning could be used to assert that reality was created by a supremely powerful and intelligent walrus. I choose to believe none of them, because that is the only intellectually tenable position, and I have no need for useless ideas.


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All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: moonzo]
    #21876167 - 06/29/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thanks  moonzo.

I really enjoy your posts. My favorite one was whenu did 1.6 Mg of LSD. That was  one profound trip. And you spoke about it so causally, like it was totally normal. Amazing.

You got a great perspective on LSD and psychedelics in general. Keep up the good psychedelic work. You're definitely onto something here :thumbup:


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
    #21876185 - 06/30/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When I'm on mushrooms, the only special talent I notice is that I can still 'see' in complete darkness.

I don't know what "tabs" are.


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
    #21876988 - 06/30/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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When I'm on mushrooms, the only special talent I notice is that I can still 'see' in complete darkness.

I don't know what "tabs" are.



By tabs i mean LSD blotters

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thanks  moonzo.

I really enjoy your posts. My favorite one was whenu did 1.6 Mg of LSD. That was  one profound trip. And you spoke about it so causally, like it was totally normal. Amazing.

You got a great perspective on LSD and psychedelics in general. Keep up the good psychedelic work. You're definitely onto something here :thumbup:




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You have a valid point. However, my criticism of science is equally as valid as your adulation for it. We merely choose to look at a different side of the same coin. Science can only toy with the objective world. You mustn't forget that our experience of consciousness is entirely subjective? In other words, science can only grasp an infinitesimal portion of the infinite spectrum of reality.




How so? Invoking subjectivity does not equivocate all probabilities, nor does it make all hypotheses equally valid. I realize that my personal perceptions and opinions are flawed, that is why I defer to empirical evidence and the scientific method, which has, without any exaggeration, proven to be effective in all cases. You however, are making claims about reality that you have yet to objectively substantiate in any way.

Do you believe in all untestable claims? If so, you are quite obviously wrong, as many of them would conflict quite severely. If you only believe in some, then you are engaging in arbitrary reasoning tantamount to wishful thinking. The same reasoning could be used to assert that reality was created by a supremely powerful and intelligent walrus. I choose to believe none of them, because that is the only intellectually tenable position, and I have no need for useless ideas.




If you are waiting for someone or a team of people with academic power and knowledge to approve of what you can believe in, you are not learning anything from within. I'd say the vast majority of people are with you in that if it's not published in a research paper or textbook it can't be true. There are textbooks in your head written by yourself in a past life waiting for you to open them up! :smile:


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
    #21877249 - 06/30/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.

My money is on you integrating your LSD experiences to the point where a psychedelic viewpoint or aesthetic has made an impression on your sober cognition.

As for any perceived telepathy or precognition, that can easily be explained by phenomena in group psychology. Your subconscious picks up on many subtle details in body language and other interpersonal expressions, but filters them out of conscious thought through latent inhibition. Use of psychedelics can decrease latent inhibition and create neuroplasticity, making a stronger connection between the conscious and subconscious mind. This can cause ideas to emerge suddenly in the mind, seemingly from nowhere, but in reality are just surfacing from deeper levels of consciousness.




The fact that everything we know, understand and believe is based on our existence in 3/1000 of a percent of the known spectrum.... We literally know nothing...... Just because we can't understand it in our little slice of the spectrum doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or is not possible. I think there's so much s*** going on that we don't know or understand. We are literally made of Stardust!

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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: Starless]
    #21877271 - 06/30/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I for one am calling bullshit. There is no empirical evidence for the existence of the soul whatsoever, and this certainly doesn't qualify.




Just because there is no physical evidence for the soul doesn't qualify for the nonexistence of it. Science won't ever prove the soul - it's an empirical discipline, very limited in scope. Your logic implies that existence is dependent on evidence. How shallow of an outlook? Don't be so quick to judge possibilities, for all we know, everything exists.

& in my experience - I agree with Carl Jung, we are a psychic process. Not only that, but we have a soul that's identical with the One Self. In other words, Atman is Brahman. We are perpetual energy, One Light disguising as humans for a little bit. A universal God exists within each and every one of us, it's just not manifest. Peer within, awaken.




I never asserted that the soul doesn't exist, that would be foolish as it is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Whether or not the soul exists, it does not manifest tangibly in reality, so it cannot be tested for. This makes it impossible to even estimate the probability of it's existence, other than it is less likely than it's non-existence due to Occam's razor. The soul as a concept is completely useless as it does not fulfill a demonstrable function that is not already fulfilled by the brain.

The scientific model is the only reliable source of accurate and useful information that we have. It has produced most of the human understanding of reality and all of technology, including the computer that you are using now. Your criticism of it is ignorant and laughable. Science is the least limited concept ever devised, we as humans are simply limited in the application of it.

The time to make claims and assertions about things is when we can test and understand them, and not a moment before. Until then, the only intellectually credible thing to do is say 'I don't know', not make wild and unfounded claims about things we can't even begin to understand.





...for now.... And maybe forever. Some things are just beyond understanding. Beyond science. Just because it can't be quantified doesn't mean it's not real. Like the energy that courses through you at a live concert. Its like I can literally feel the energy coming off my finger tips. I don't know what it is. But it's f****** real!


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Re: Psychedelics Unlocking Psychic Abilities [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21877297 - 06/30/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Used to call bullshit on this but the more i've tripped the harder it's become to close my mind on possibilities.

Knowing we only see between these light wavelengths:



And only hear between 2 particular sound frequencies, I think it's safe to say we're missing a fuck ton of whats going on.

Tripping takes off the filters which usually 'make boring' the world around us to help us understand and survive...

Who's to say one day we won't start to use the usually overwhelming and useless info which is presented to us tripping.


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    #21877298 - 06/30/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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When I'm on mushrooms, the only special talent I notice is that I can still 'see' in complete darkness.

I don't know what "tabs" are.



By tabs i mean LSD blotters

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thanks  moonzo.

I really enjoy your posts. My favorite one was whenu did 1.6 Mg of LSD. That was  one profound trip. And you spoke about it so causally, like it was totally normal. Amazing.

You got a great perspective on LSD and psychedelics in general. Keep up the good psychedelic work. You're definitely onto something here :thumbup:




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You have a valid point. However, my criticism of science is equally as valid as your adulation for it. We merely choose to look at a different side of the same coin. Science can only toy with the objective world. You mustn't forget that our experience of consciousness is entirely subjective? In other words, science can only grasp an infinitesimal portion of the infinite spectrum of reality.




How so? Invoking subjectivity does not equivocate all probabilities, nor does it make all hypotheses equally valid. I realize that my personal perceptions and opinions are flawed, that is why I defer to empirical evidence and the scientific method, which has, without any exaggeration, proven to be effective in all cases. You however, are making claims about reality that you have yet to objectively substantiate in any way.

Do you believe in all untestable claims? If so, you are quite obviously wrong, as many of them would conflict quite severely. If you only believe in some, then you are engaging in arbitrary reasoning tantamount to wishful thinking. The same reasoning could be used to assert that reality was created by a supremely powerful and intelligent walrus. I choose to believe none of them, because that is the only intellectually tenable position, and I have no need for useless ideas.




If you are waiting for someone or a team of people with academic power and knowledge to approve of what you can believe in, you are not learning anything from within. I'd say the vast majority of people are with you in that if it's not published in a research paper or textbook it can't be true. There are textbooks in your head written by yourself in a past life waiting for you to open them up! :smile:




Rick Strassman...inner paths to outer worlds.....he became a believer. ..


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