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Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause
    #21872415 - 06/29/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have had much compassion for animals since I was a child. When I was growing up, my faith and values changed several times, but my love and compassion for animals never changed. Now I finally realize that animal protection is the really meaningful cause.

Below are my answers to some questions, and a rough description of my animal protection concept.

Why must we protect animals?

Like we human beings, animals have consciousness and feeling, and can experience suffering and happiness.

No one wants suffering, and neither do animals. This is the enough reason why we must protect animals.

Why do we not advocate "protecting plants"?

Plants do not have brain or nerve, so that they do not have any consciousness at all, including any suffering or happiness.

Therefore, in terms of morality, there is no need to protect plants.

Why do we not advocate "protecting mosquitoes"?

All vertebrate animals, including human beings, have advanced nervous systems, and have strong feeling and consciousness. However, most invertebrates, such as insects, only have very simple nervous systems, so that most invertebrates' feeling and consciousness are very weak.

We do not say "protect mosquitoes" or "protect mites", because their feeling and consciousness are very weak.

Why we must not kill animals, although animals keep killing each other?

Animals should not be condemned for killing others, because animals have low intelligence, and cannot understand that their behaviors bring suffering to other individuals. It is just as you cannot condemn a child who is three or four years old for killing someone, because it knows nothing; in fact, many animals have the same intelligence level as a child at that age does.

However, adults' intelligence level is high enough for them to know that their behaviors may bring suffering to other individuals. Under the circumstance of knowing that, doing such behaviors is an obvious atrocity.

Why do we not obey the natural law which lets the strong ones prey upon the weak ones?

The natural law that allows the strong ones to prey upon the weak ones runs counter to the human ethics. If not, there would be no need to protect the disadvantaged groups.

The weak ones should be protected. The laws of nature are brutal, but the human ethics are compassionate. We human beings must fight against the brutality and stop the killing, not perform the killing.

Why should we be concerned about animals, rather than people?

People live really well nowadays. Most of the so-call disadvantaged groups and poor people are just have rough or less good living conditions. In addition, the human societies keep offering helps and opportunities to those disadvantaged people; with the development of societies, the helps and opportunities keep increasing.

In comparison, animals’ situations make me feel sorrier – at least those poor people will not be mistreated or killed. However, there is not even any relevant law to punish the murderers who killed animals cruelly. Now there is nothing more urgent than protecting animals.

Moreover, there is a distinction of good and evil in humans, but animals are all innocent and lovely – just as children (many animals have the same intelligence as children do); every single child is lovely.

Nowadays the rich and powerful people, have strong power, but always squander the power and capital on luxurious lives and meaningless faiths. I will be the owner of power, and use the power to make the greatest contribution to animal protection.

Strive for it!


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Re: Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause [Re: kaichen]
    #21873012 - 06/29/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Please say that protecting animals is the most meaningful case for you, since your reasons are greatly arbitrary and presumptuous.

I love animals and also am aware of my bias when it comes to caring for them. I eat meat but I wouldn't personally kill/hunt for meat. I eat some animals while I would never eat others, just because I have an irrational habit that has been culturally reinforced.

You don't really know whether plants have consciousness or not. You don't know how strong/weak the consciousness of mites is. Choosing what to kill/spare based on the level of alleged consciousness is a reason, not the reason.


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Re: Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause [Re: kaichen]
    #21873908 - 06/29/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Unfortunately for non-human animals, we are in direct competition, and we're winning.

http://www.dailycal.org/2015/06/28/study-identifies-6th-mass-extinction-event-lists-human-activity-as-primary-cause/


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Re: Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #21873990 - 06/29/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

You don't know how strong/weak the consciousness of mites is.




They mite or they mite not. :crazy:


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Re: Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21874030 - 06/29/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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You don't know how strong/weak the consciousness of mites is.




They mite or they mite not. :crazy:




OP is apparently a dualist.  So it's interesting our opinions on consciousness jive on this little thing:  The spectrum of consciousness.  With the level of consciousness defined in biological life as the complexity of their nervous system function.  It makes sense to a monist like myself.  There's plenty of evidence in science that animals with more complex nerve tissue demonstrate more consciousness if you define consciousness as simply levels of awareness.  When you turn it into a philosophical word with all the added layers of meaning, and presuppose that consciousness is somehow non-corporeal, then it's a lot more difficult to then go back and say that consciousness now depends on purely physical factors. 

But I don't have to worry about such things :smug:


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Re: Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause [Re: Hippocampus]
    #21874093 - 06/29/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



I am also a Monist. :yesnod:


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