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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21873707 - 06/29/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've seen seizures. It sounds like a seizure to me.




Well, if you've seen seizures, you know there is a post-ictal phase characterized by drowsiness, confusion, nausea, hypertension, headache or migraine and other disorienting symptoms.  OP said nothing of that.  Neither did anyone who witnessed the incident.

If I had to guess (which is all we can do) I'd say the OP had a bit of a fright / anxiety attack, became a bit too hypotensive, and briefly passed out.  There's LOTS of examples of that happening with mushrooms.  Even a cursory search on this board will demonstrate that it is a not-uncommon occurrence.  Nothing but a normal physiological response to fright.

Ex:  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11200013#11200013

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1743977

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1266838#1266838

OP, I hope this puts your mind at ease.  Do what I suggested and you'll be chipper in no time flat.

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After I came to when I passed out, I was disoriented for a bit, confused and didn't even know what happened... are those symtoms that indicate a seizure something I'd feel far after the fact or right after? Becuase I know I experienced a few of those.

I don't even recall being nervous or anxious before it happened... it just happened.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
    #21873935 - 06/29/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I had one beer that night and I had smoked a little bit a of weed. And a seizure?… dude now I'm scared af.


EDIT: And I don't have a history of seizures or health issues. I do have low blood pressure but I don't know if that would cause anything..







I didn't read the thread, but it sounds to me like you just fainted from low blood pressure, and had convulsions upon coming back to awareness (convulsions are not too uncommon from syncope ).


I've seen many MANY threads here over the years with similar situations.....person takes something (lsd, or mushrooms, or smoked a lot of weed, or an edible, or etc....i've seen/heard of it happening with lots of things), then they faint collapse from low blood pressure and wonder wtf happened.


It's happened to me 4 times over the past 5 years or so, from weed and once while on lsd.


It can certainly be a scary and bizarre experience if you don't know what's happening/happened.







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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: openmind]
    #21875659 - 06/29/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You also could have hit your head on the ground harder than you know.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Mushroom_J]
    #21875938 - 06/29/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You also could have hit your head on the ground harder than you know.



Lol!
Im surprised this hasnt been considered or brought up, thats a possibility.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21875970 - 06/29/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea but he hit his head after he passed out, so that wouldn't explain why he blacked out, might explain why he still feels groggy and out of it, could have got a mild concussion.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21876937 - 06/30/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

While shrooming, I've watched my brother pass out while standing and not 3 minutes later watch another friend teeter over.  Both came to a few seconds after passing out, and having seen it once I managed to catch him the second time. 

It was hot outside, I guarantee we weren't properly hydrated, and we were passing a cigar around. 

Definitely a blood pressure drop, and everyone has been fine not 5 minutes afterwards til the present day, but it sure was freaky the first time I ever witnessed it while tripping.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: pureenergy13]
    #21877372 - 06/30/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

24 hours after a shroom trip one time, I got drunk the entire day on rum, then was smokin hardcore on that green, started feeling very dizzy, walked away from the group into another room.
Started to lose my vision, I started seeing light with the image of an eye, and inside the eye there were some aliens laughing at me. Eyes wide open and was seeing this shit, was dizzy, so I dropped to the floor in a sitting position (collapsed) and sat there until my vision slowly started to come back.

After like 60 seconds I could see again but I was very dizzy/light so I got up and sat on a chair a foot away from me, for like 20mins then fell asleep for a hour or two. All better.

It must have been alcohol all day then green, and 24 hours before I was on a trippin shroom trip, so I must have lost blood pressure and that happened.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21877515 - 06/30/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21877923 - 06/30/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ummmmm I would think a seizure and lasting effects that long after is a bad sign for any substance you ingest. Especially if it is not that common for others. Just be cautious OP. If I had a seizure on any drug, I probably would stay far away from then on. But thats just me.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Heisencybin]
    #21878384 - 06/30/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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.....If I had a seizure on any drug, I probably would stay far away from then on. But thats just me.







What leads you to believe the op had a seizure?




Sounds like he fainted from low bp, and had convulsive syncope, convulsions after such are not uncommon......A common variant of syncope that is associated with brief tonic or myoclonic activity. These convulsions are thought to occur because the brain doesn’t like to be oxygen deprived. The early stages of hypoxia appear to induce motor centers in the brainstorm reticular formation. Studies from the 1950s in experimentally induced syncope of humans showed no epileptiform activity on EEG when fainting patients convulsed.

Almost immediately after “passing out” patients will experience anything from twitching of the mouth to violent four extremity jerking. Myoclonic jerks are often seen. It can be multifocal and asynchronous, as opposed to the rhythmic convulsions of generalized tonic clonic epileptiform seizures."






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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: openmind]
    #21878685 - 06/30/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm feeling a lot better now. Looking back, it really looks like low blood pressure and dehydration. I didnt drink water that day and had a couple of sodas and a beer. That day I just wasn't being very healthy. Besides some sinus pressure, I'm feeling good now.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
    #21878813 - 06/30/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm feeling a lot better now. Looking back, it really looks like low blood pressure and dehydration. I didnt drink water that day and had a couple of sodas and a beer. That day I just wasn't being very healthy. Besides some sinus pressure, I'm feeling good now.



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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: openmind]
    #21878908 - 06/30/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Heisencybin said:
.....If I had a seizure on any drug, I probably would stay far away from then on. But thats just me.







What leads you to believe the op had a seizure?




Sounds like he fainted from low bp, and had convulsive syncope, convulsions after such are not uncommon......A common variant of syncope that is associated with brief tonic or myoclonic activity. These convulsions are thought to occur because the brain doesn’t like to be oxygen deprived. The early stages of hypoxia appear to induce motor centers in the brainstorm reticular formation. Studies from the 1950s in experimentally induced syncope of humans showed no epileptiform activity on EEG when fainting patients convulsed.

Almost immediately after “passing out” patients will experience anything from twitching of the mouth to violent four extremity jerking. Myoclonic jerks are often seen. It can be multifocal and asynchronous, as opposed to the rhythmic convulsions of generalized tonic clonic epileptiform seizures."






-OM


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Because the OP thought he might have had one... and said it in his post... convulsions and blacking out/losing consciousness would have me freaking out whether it truly was a seizure or not.

Either way, being dehydrated and such could have easily made you pass out. Just because it's not a full blown "seizure," doesn't mean it wasn't damaging to the brain and body. Maybe next time, stock up on vitamins and water. Eat a decent meal early in the day. Then take the same amount and see what happens. That would be the next test to see if you are having adverse reactions directly related to shrooming. Shrooms themselves seem to make you sweat a bunch and dehydrate your body rather quickly. Good luck OP. Do what feels right and don't shrug off huge symptoms like this if this continues in future trips. Idk why people are against me on this. Better safe than sorry


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Heisencybin]
    #21880383 - 06/30/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not a doctor, but I have quite a bit of medical knowledge.

I think what happened to you was probably related to what you took. No, they can't hurt you themselves, but they could definitely freak you out enough to cause you to faint or something similar. You regained consciousness. I have seen many people faint and then regain consciousness. The human body does a wonderful job at resetting itself and turning back on. Most of the time the doctors never know why. It could also have been a seizure. If it doesn't happen again, I wouldn't worry about it. If it does happen again while you aren't on something, get it checked out.

Just my opinion, not medical advice.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21881133 - 07/01/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't take this experience and say "i dont think ill be doing this again"

What you should be saying, is: "The next time I try shrooms, i will ONLY ingest shrooms, not weed and beer with it"

Shrooms alone will not ever cause you to faint, black out, like you described.
There were other things playing along, like, low blood pressure in combination with beer and weed.

PLay it safe and smart friend, then you will find what you want




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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: PNW_Vibes]
    #21881895 - 07/01/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Were you feeling hungry at all that day? Weed really fucks with your blood pressure, so if you we're dehydrated, plus low blood sugar, plus low blood pressure...

Tell us about your weight / body type. Both bigger and smaller people are prone to some sort of malnutrition after eating abnormalties compared to an average or althletic body.

I've seen my cousin pass out after donating plasma for 4 weeks, multiple times a week.
He was honestly functioning just fine until we stopped at my friends house to smoke weed. Halfway through the blunt this dude just smacks the ground and starts concluding and twitching like he's dying.
Being high as fuck and caught off guard, it took us a whole 2 minutes to realize what happened. Those two minutes of WTF were so fucking long...


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: godisamushroom]
    #21882204 - 07/01/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Were you feeling hungry at all that day? Weed really fucks with your blood pressure, so if you we're dehydrated, plus low blood sugar, plus low blood pressure...

Tell us about your weight / body type. Both bigger and smaller people are prone to some sort of malnutrition after eating abnormalties compared to an average or althletic body.

I've seen my cousin pass out after donating plasma for 4 weeks, multiple times a week.
He was honestly functioning just fine until we stopped at my friends house to smoke weed. Halfway through the blunt this dude just smacks the ground and starts concluding and twitching like he's dying.
Being high as fuck and caught off guard, it took us a whole 2 minutes to realize what happened. Those two minutes of WTF were so fucking long...




I'm 5'7 and around 148-150 pounds. I'm a thin runner build I guess as I've been running since middle school, in college now. But I agree, what you mentioned and quite a few people mentioned above, it seemed to be low blood pressure and dehydration. I just wasn't being smart that day and it took me a while to realize that I hadn't eaten properly that day, didn't drink enough liquids not to mention I smoked a bit. Both weed and a few hits from my friends vape(regular juice). I downed the shrooms with a can of orange soda and didn't have anything to drink since then.

It all boils down to me being a moron and didn't prepare myself properly. I'm good now except I do get kinda nervous at times. I hear a high pitched sound or squeak and i think its my brain making that sound in reality it's just something going on around me. lol. Proably just a little startled still from the whole thing.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
    #21886638 - 07/02/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

At 5 inches shorter than me, 150 isnt really a small size. You must have a bit of lean muscle on you if you are really a thin person, high metabolism could mean your body will CRASH as soon as you run out of readily available carbs.

You definitely need at least one good filling every day if you dont want to pass out...


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: godisamushroom]
    #21886937 - 07/02/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think you are going to be fine. Next time you try mushroom just make sure they are not possibly laced with something other than what should be there. And don't mix the mushrooms with other chemicals. And use a lower dose. But, you will come out of this. Never fear.


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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21886976 - 07/02/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i highly doubt someone as ever laced shrooms .Why would someone even do that?


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