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unrealman
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Scary experience, really need some feedback
#21872126 - 06/29/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey,
I'm new here and pretty new to the whole shroom experience. I tried shrooms for the first time about half a year ago and it was a wonderful experience and this weekend I thought I would try them again. I ended up taking about 3 grams possibly a bit more and they were extremely potent according to my friend.
After about an hour I had an intense head high and started to have some pretty vivid color changes and warping. I went down to my friends basement and the last thing i remember was standing waiting for him to come down with some food. I woke up on the ground, my friend saw me collapse and he caught me. My head grazed the floor, he mentioned it hit slightly but not bad. He then pulled me to the couch, I regained consciousness then lost it again.He said I convulsed a little then I was fine again. During that experience I was out, I didn't remember passing out but I remember the parts in between. Before I came to again, i remember white and a loud static screeching. I think about it now and it haunts me. It's been 2 days since the trip and I still feel some what out of it.
I'm scared theres something wrong with me as I feel slight pressure and tingling around the top of my head. I'm just really looking forward to feeling normal again and I'm scared I won't ever again.
As for me collapsing I think it was part due to dehydration and I didn't eat a ton that day. It was just a concerning and scary night for me as I rode the trip out thinking I had a seizure. Which also lead to my friend having a terrible time too. Was just a huge nightmare and we were both so happy when the trip was over and saw daylight.
Am I okay? Physically? Will I suffer any brain damage from this trip? This whole experience has scared me and I don't think I'll be doing this again. Any insight on this and if anyone else has experienced this please leave a reply.
Thanks!
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
#21872132 - 06/29/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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First off, I'm no doctor and certainly not qualified to give you expert advice.
But I will say that I have many friends who suffer from either blood sugar problems or blood pressure drops when they go long periods of time without eating or drinking water. One of my close friends is on daily medication to prevent blood sugar drops that cause fainting.
My gut instinct tells me that your fainting may be linked to something other than shrooms. Do you have a history of this type of thing? Definitely go speak to a physician, you don't have to mention the shrooms if you don't want to. Just make sure nothing else is wrong with you first before taking more.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
#21872143 - 06/29/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That sounds exactly like a seizure. We're you drinking too? Other drugs?
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unrealman
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Matt87]
#21872152 - 06/29/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had one beer that night and I had smoked a little bit a of weed. And a seizure?… dude now I'm scared af.
EDIT: And I don't have a history of seizures or health issues. I do have low blood pressure but I don't know if that would cause anything..
Edited by unrealman (06/29/15 06:58 AM)
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
#21872177 - 06/29/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like blood pressure drop, happened to me about 10 time in my life and saw it happen many times. Weed and beer plays a role .especially weed
Ime its not dangerous,but maybe it was a seizure but I'm no doctor but I doubt it's that ,if it's low blood pressure , then its way less dangerous then high blood pressure .but the feeling is horrible when you don't pass out completely during it. Feels like your brain is on fire and you losing graps on reality in a dreadful way.
Imo you shouldn't worry too much
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21872196 - 06/29/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Green/white face , being nauseous, losing balance and the feeling of losing contact with reality are all symptoms of blood pressure drop
Can be cause by a combination of weed , beer, cigs quantities digested doesn't really matters ime. Also cause by dehydratation . Suddenly standing up , too much food
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Jean-guy Masta] 1
#21872210 - 06/29/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't take this experience and say "i dont think ill be doing this again"
What you should be saying, is: "The next time I try shrooms, i will ONLY ingest shrooms, not weed and beer with it"
Shrooms alone will not ever cause you to faint, black out, like you described. There were other things playing along, like, low blood pressure in combination with beer and weed.
PLay it safe and smart friend, then you will find what you want
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21872231 - 06/29/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jean-guy Masta said: Green/white face , being nauseous, losing balance and the feeling of losing contact with reality are all symptoms of blood pressure drop
Can be cause by a combination of weed , beer, cigs quantities digested doesn't really matters ime. Also cause by dehydratation . Suddenly standing up , too much food
That makes sense but my main concern is that I'm still feeling this way over 2 days later. I went to a walk-in clinic and they denied me saying they didn't have the right tools to check me out and I don't have insurance yet to go to the ER. I also don't want my family finding out and it's just all really stressful.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
#21872282 - 06/29/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What do you mean by still feeling it ? Everything should be back to normal after 1 hour or so , a headache could be normal tho
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21872326 - 06/29/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jean-guy Masta said: What do you mean by still feeling it ? Everything should be back to normal after 1 hour or so , a headache could be normal tho
Yea, explain exactly what you 'still feel'
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21872327 - 06/29/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jean-guy Masta said: What do you mean by still feeling it ? Everything should be back to normal after 1 hour or so , a headache could be normal tho
I just feel spacey and out of it. Yesterday I made sure to make myself a big breakfast, bacon, eggs juice, toast, got rest, drank plenty of water and napped most the day. I had a headache yesterday but its gone now. Today I'm just kinda spaced out and slow I guess.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Matt87]
#21872337 - 06/29/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: That sounds exactly like a seizure. We're you drinking too? Other drugs?
Oh, stop it! Jesus, I'm a physician and I couldn't be sure of a diagnosis based upon what the OP wrote. What an utterly irresponsible and ridiculous assertion!
OP, you are FINE. Mushrooms are (literally) the safest psychedelic on the planet with thousands of years of usage and no deaths. The LD50 is astronomical. You are fine.
If you want to do something positive to make yourself feel 100% better, drink only water or fruit juice, get outside, take a walk in nature, breathe some fresh air, get some exercise, and eat some wholesome foods for the next two or three days. Lots of fruits, vegetables, and no shitty processed meats like hot dogs, bacon or fast food. No soda. No cigarettes.
In 24 hours you will feel good. In 48 hours you'll feel better than you ever did before eating the mushies.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Nature Boy]
#21872509 - 06/29/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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Matt87 said: That sounds exactly like a seizure. We're you drinking too? Other drugs?
Oh, stop it! Jesus, I'm a physician and I couldn't be sure of a diagnosis based upon what the OP wrote. What an utterly irresponsible and ridiculous assertion!
OP, you are FINE. Mushrooms are (literally) the safest psychedelic on the planet with thousands of years of usage and no deaths. The LD50 is astronomical. You are fine.
If you want to do something positive to make yourself feel 100% better, drink only water or fruit juice, get outside, take a walk in nature, breathe some fresh air, get some exercise, and eat some wholesome foods for the next two or three days. Lots of fruits, vegetables, and no shitty processed meats like hot dogs, bacon or fast food. No soda. No cigarettes.
In 24 hours you will feel good. In 48 hours you'll feel better than you ever did before eating the mushies.
N.B.
I appreciate the replies. I'll take your advise and eat well the next couple of days and see how things go. I know this isn't the last time I'll try shrooms but this experience was just a little too much for me. That night literally felt like an eternity and no matter what I did, I just couldn't snap myself back to a positive state of mind.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: unrealman]
#21872548 - 06/29/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Still lasting effects like this a few days after trip? If so, I would not touch it again if I were you. Blacking out is not a good sign. I have never blacked out once and I've tripped literally over 100 times. Lsd and shrooms mostly. If you started convulsions at only 3 grams, then this is a sign that they are no good for you. Especially if you having tingling aftereffects lasting more than a day or so.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Heisencybin]
#21872685 - 06/29/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Heisencybin said: Still lasting effects like this a few days after trip? If so, I would not touch it again if I were you. Blacking out is not a good sign. I have never blacked out once and I've tripped literally over 100 times. Lsd and shrooms mostly. If you started convulsions at only 3 grams, then this is a sign that they are no good for you. Especially if you having tingling aftereffects lasting more than a day or so.
Shut the god damn up and read all of the replies before just reading OP and responding, its only 1 page.
If you would have done that you would have realized that what you just posted is bad/wrong advice
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Heisencybin]
#21872703 - 06/29/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Heisencybin said: Still lasting effects like this a few days after trip? If so, I would not touch it again if I were you. Blacking out is not a good sign. I have never blacked out once and I've tripped literally over 100 times. Lsd and shrooms mostly. If you started convulsions at only 3 grams, then this is a sign that they are no good for you. Especially if you having tingling aftereffects lasting more than a day or so.
the dude doesn't know what he's talking about
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Nature Boy]
#21872899 - 06/29/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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Matt87 said: That sounds exactly like a seizure. We're you drinking too? Other drugs?
Oh, stop it! Jesus, I'm a physician and I couldn't be sure of a diagnosis based upon what the OP wrote. What an utterly irresponsible and ridiculous assertion!
OP, you are FINE. Mushrooms are (literally) the safest psychedelic on the planet with thousands of years of usage and no deaths. The LD50 is astronomical. You are fine.
If you want to do something positive to make yourself feel 100% better, drink only water or fruit juice, get outside, take a walk in nature, breathe some fresh air, get some exercise, and eat some wholesome foods for the next two or three days. Lots of fruits, vegetables, and no shitty processed meats like hot dogs, bacon or fast food. No soda. No cigarettes.
In 24 hours you will feel good. In 48 hours you'll feel better than you ever did before eating the mushies.
N.B.
I've seen seizures. It sounds like a seizure to me. You're right though, obviously I can't be sure but convulsing on the ground blacked out isn't your typical mushroom trip stuff.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Matt87]
#21873163 - 06/29/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well both, seizure and low blood pressure can lead to fainthing and convulsing . Low blood pressure spike is really common tho especially with weed and alcohol and seizure is not . Just seems unrealistic to straight off the bat saying its a seizure.
The space out , out of it feeling is probably coming from this being a traumatic event and thus being the principal symptom of PTSD. Blacking out like that can certainly be a traumatic event and create a post traumatic stress syndrome.
I've had lost important people in tragic manners and had PTSD and the spaced out feeling lasted for weeks . The time before you get out of the jam just all depends on how much importance you put on it
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Edited by Jean-guy Masta (06/29/15 11:37 AM)
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21873489 - 06/29/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies. I'll take your advise, eat well, get some air and drink plenty of water. I'm already feeling a lot better now since I first posted so I'm sure things will be good.
I'll probably try them again but I'l better prepare myself in the future, making sure I'm hydrated, had eaten plenty that day and avoid alcohol and weed.
Once again, many thanks.
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Re: Scary experience, really need some feedback [Re: Matt87] 1
#21873660 - 06/29/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I've seen seizures. It sounds like a seizure to me.
Well, if you've seen seizures, you know there is a post-ictal phase characterized by drowsiness, confusion, nausea, hypertension, headache or migraine and other disorienting symptoms. OP said nothing of that. Neither did anyone who witnessed the incident.
If I had to guess (which is all we can do) I'd say the OP had a bit of a fright / anxiety attack, became a bit too hypotensive, and briefly passed out. There's LOTS of examples of that happening with mushrooms. Even a cursory search on this board will demonstrate that it is a not-uncommon occurrence. Nothing but a normal physiological response to fright.
Ex: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11200013#11200013
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1743977
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1266838#1266838
OP, I hope this puts your mind at ease. Do what I suggested and you'll be chipper in no time flat.
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