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78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? * 1
    #21871803 - 06/29/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My dad has never tried shrooms.
He's 78, a bit weak physically but healthy mentally.
I want to plan a day at a lake where we can just sit and chill and talk... and shroom.
I'm thinking 3 grams each.

Good idea? I honestly, dont see why not?
I wont tell him it's illegal. He has no idea what psychedelic mushies are.
I'll just tell him it's a relaxing herbal tea that opens up the mind.
I know he'd be down for it.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21871811 - 06/29/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hm... I got my post deleted asking if I should try a certain substance ostensibly because it is dosage advice (0 and anything more than 0 are dosages too?) So I wonder if the same rule applies to cases in the third rather than first person.

That aside, if he's down and you'd enjoy it too, why not? A long-time loner, the first time I did drugs with anyone but myself was when I introduced my girlfriend with a candy flip and some pot on the comedown. It was the greatest night of my life and brought us closer. Seems like a good idea to me assuming you have reason to believe he'd be interested.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21871830 - 06/29/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

interesting....

Go for it.

I think 3 grams for your Dad is a little high. How about 2grams?

Would be one interesting trip for sure!


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21871833 - 06/29/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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a relaxing herbal tea that opens up the mind.




3 grams is too much. maybe half. or less.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: ketsa] * 2
    #21871844 - 06/29/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I would go for 1.5-2g at most...


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: ketsa] * 2
    #21871846 - 06/29/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

1-2 grams will be far enough for him.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21871868 - 06/29/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's a bit more than a relaxing herbal tea. People list their psychedelic experience amongst the most profound experiences of their lives. Next to becoming a parent and getting married for instance. I think your dad has the right to get a lot more honest information and have the power to decide for himself wether he wants a part of something like that.

Why do you want him to try it? I've noticed that I have tried to persuade my parents into trying psychedelics before (without success). It was usually because at the time I felt misunderstood by them and disconnected from them. There are other ways to deal with those issues.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21871933 - 06/29/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What makes you think he would even be remotely interested in a magic mushroom trip?  You want to talk to your father?  Then talk.  I'm a little concerned that the plan is to do so at a lake - where I'm presuming the two of you would be farther than usual from quality medical care?  Not the best of ideas, IMHO.

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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21872616 - 06/29/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yup, I'd do 1.5 grams first. Maybe just one if he's nervous. You can always redose more. My preferred method is to make 1.5g tea initially, then 1-2 hours later, I'm drinking another 2-3 gram tea. Just know that if you redose, it takes some time to make the tea, so prepare for it just in casw. I will crush it all up before my trip so I can just through my cup in the microwave and throw in my tea buddy/bag/rubbersteeper thing when water is boiling. If you want more info on tea making, message me. Otherwise, I'd start low with your father, and prepare to redose if desirable


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #21872701 - 06/29/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The fact that he is 78 and has never heard of magic mushrooms seems odd to me. Anyway, I would not try to pass them off as something as subtle as herbal tea. Mushrooms are extremely powerful and I would be pissed if someone gave me mushrooms without telling me or explaining their powerful effect. Does he have any other drug or psychedelic history?


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Ncogneato] * 1
    #21872925 - 06/29/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Good idea? I honestly, dont see why not?
I wont tell him it's illegal. He has no idea what psychedelic mushies are.
I'll just tell him it's a relaxing herbal tea that opens up the mind.
I know he'd be down for it.





I'm all for tripping with your dad - I wish I had done it with my dad and I would love it if one or both of my sons wanted to do it with me.

Do not, under any condition, slip him psychedelics without him knowing about it. That's criminal IMO. Be upfront, let him do some research and then see if he's interested. If he's 78 now, then he was 30 during the summer of love. That entire era went by and he didn't trip. Either he lived under a rock or he decided early on that he's not interested.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21872940 - 06/29/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

as much as i love shrooms you can't bs anyone that it is herbal tea.
if they take something (anything) they need to take it with full knowledge.
especially something as powerful as mushrooms, i just can see this turning in to bad day out :laugh:


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: CrocAu]
    #21873074 - 06/29/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say go for it, but just don't lie to him about what it is.Inform him and give him the knowledge he needs to know.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21873116 - 06/29/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely INFORM him first, let him decide for himself. If he honestly wants to do this then that could be great (id also suggest a lower dose like 2 or so) but don't lie to him and let him make his own choices


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21873235 - 06/29/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's a bit more than a relaxing herbal tea. People list their psychedelic experience amongst the most profound experiences of their lives. Next to becoming a parent and getting married for instance. I think your dad has the right to get a lot more honest information and have the power to decide for himself wether he wants a part of something like that.







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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #21875053 - 06/29/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tips guys.
I'll fully explain to him what shrooms are and if he's down, we'll each do 2 grams in a tea.
I never asked but I'm sure he's never heard of shrooms because we're vietnamese. He didnt come to the US until 1989.
They dont do shrooms in Vietnam.. probably because it grows from cow shit lol.
I just want him to experience what I feel has changed my life.
I know he's gonna be down thou, he's a pretty cool guy. It's gon be fun.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21875180 - 06/29/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Keep us updated then man!


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake] * 1
    #21875185 - 06/29/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't know if anyone has said this, but find out what if any medications your dad is taking, and make sure there's no relative or absolute contraindications to mixing with mushrooms.  I'm sure HE'S not thinking about that or is knowledgeable on the topic, so YOU need to be!

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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: ketsa]
    #21875217 - 06/29/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ketsa said:
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a relaxing herbal tea that opens up the mind.




3 grams is too much. maybe half. or less.



I agree

Also, you can't just tell him its a relaxing herbal tea. You have to tell him it's a psychedelic drug. You don't dose people without their knowledge. Why would you do that to your elderly grandfather?? And three grams??? What a horrible thing to do to an old man.


You should give him one gram, if he agrees to it and fully understands what he's taking. If he likes it give him more next time.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21875663 - 06/29/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nature Boy said:
Don't know if anyone has said this, but find out what if any medications your dad is taking, and make sure there's no relative or absolute contraindications to mixing with mushrooms.  I'm sure HE'S not thinking about that or is knowledgeable on the topic, so YOU need to be!

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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21875783 - 06/29/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I will definitely look into his current medications. Thanks big time.
And I shall start with 1 gram and dose more if he's comfortable.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21876503 - 06/30/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good plan :thumbup: Hopefully he's down and everything lines up well for you guys. It would be cool if more people managedto share these kinds of experiences with thwir families


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21876509 - 06/30/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Let us know how it goes.

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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21877023 - 06/30/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I want updates on this thread

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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21877146 - 06/30/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm planning a thing with my dad and uncle who are both in their mid sixties. Planning a trip to the mountains in September and should be an amazing and profound experience!:mindexpanding:


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21877905 - 06/30/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shit I'm 24 and 2 grams can be touGh sometimes. I'd start with one and add another or more an hour or so later if you want. But hey, your choice. I may just be more sensitive, but 2 grams seems like it could be rough for a first time experience for someone that old. You know him best though. I wish you both the best of vibes :smile:


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #21878528 - 06/30/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it'll be a few months
he lives in seattle and i live in vegas
gotta plan a trip up there
i will update tho i promise


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21879079 - 06/30/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Let's just look at this scenario, one I've often considered with similar ideas about my 84 year old mother.  You both take shrooms or just they do and at their age have an anxiety attack or flip out bringing on a heart attack and they die. If you've also indulged you may be in no state to help or be of use.
From a legal standpoint you supplied an illegal substance the end result possibly leading to death. Your now looking at manslaughter or similar charges from blood analysis if a post Mortem is done.
It gets messy, this is where my mind went considering this with my mum who I'm pretty sure wouldn't try it anyway, sounds doom and gloom but just what deterred me.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Kingcannon]
    #21879091 - 06/30/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thats what i was thinking. 




id never dose anyone with shrooms unless i hated them.  lol


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21879100 - 06/30/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

a few months and the weather will be miserable here.  better speed it up, if you are going to do this dont make his trip be inside


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: sprinkles]
    #21880398 - 06/30/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I understand the desire to make him try it without knowing, because he obviously would never try it otherwise, but slipping it into his drink? That's sketchy.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: InDivision]
    #21880419 - 06/30/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

posting for updates


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: InDivision]
    #21880435 - 06/30/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have your father read that 1957 Life Magazine Article describing Gordon Wasson's experience in Mexico.  will take it of the 'youth thing'


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: uncle_rico]
    #21880736 - 06/30/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know about your personal relationship with your father, but him not knowing what it is might be a detriment. I know if I was unwittingly dosed with mushrooms I just might have a panic attack. There is a lot of preparing I do before I decide to trip, I would prepare him for it. Ultimately if you go through with it, prepare him for it the best way you can! Good Vibes your way whichever route you choose.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Kingcannon]
    #21881449 - 07/01/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Let's just look at this scenario, one I've often considered with similar ideas about my 84 year old mother.  You both take shrooms or just they do and at their age have an anxiety attack or flip out bringing on a heart attack and they die. If you've also indulged you may be in no state to help or be of use.
From a legal standpoint you supplied an illegal substance the end result possibly leading to death. Your now looking at manslaughter or similar charges from blood analysis if a post Mortem is done.
It gets messy, this is where my mind went considering this with my mum who I'm pretty sure wouldn't try it anyway, sounds doom and gloom but just what deterred me.




lmaooo

i could never hang out with somebody like you
my dad is gonna love the experience
i know him very well and he's gonna be down 100%
we're gonna have a fucking blaaaast
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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21881628 - 07/01/15 04:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You said your dad is going to be 100% down, obviously you know your dad more than anyone here so why ask for people's advice & then be a dick about it when it's something you don't want to hear. People that ask questions & then bitch about the advice given really annoy me...


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21882001 - 07/01/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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keepsake said:
My dad has never tried shrooms.
He's 78, a bit weak physically but healthy mentally.
I want to plan a day at a lake where we can just sit and chill and talk... and shroom.
I'm thinking 3 grams each.




I don't see anything wrong with this.  Personally I give people an 1/8th and up.  Being stuck half tripping is the worst.

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I wont tell him it's illegal. He has no idea what psychedelic mushies are.
I'll just tell him it's a relaxing herbal tea that opens up the mind.
I know he'd be down for it.





You really want to start off a nice bonding moment with your dad by lying to him? :facepalm:


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21882059 - 07/01/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've watched one person have a seizure on a threshold dose and a couple other people freak the fuck out - also on low doses. And these people were very young and in great health.

just know that this isn't like popping an tylenol and there can be really serious repercussions.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: lurkmode]
    #21882427 - 07/01/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my first time was with half an eighth of some quality boomers and it was great. I really believe its JUST set and setting.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: keepsake]
    #21882436 - 07/01/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LOL... maybe so, no offence taken. Ive done stuff in the past that's put other peoples lives on the line and thankfully no one killed. I still think about those days now and thank my lucky stars, my life could have been spent in prison, but you live and learn.

Im not saying never/don't/shouldn't do anything but roll the dice,you play the game and its nice to consider all possible outcomes.
Good LUCK.


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: Kingcannon]
    #21882901 - 07/01/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Great idea, keepsake, in my opinion.
There are risks involved; yet, i just tried to imagine myself in your father's shoes - i would definitely try it even if i died in the process. :smile:
In the long run, it's more important how you die than when you die.
Having said that, i will also say i do not think there is a big risk of anything fatal for your father - he's still a youngster compared to Alfred Hoffman who took 150 mic LSD on his 100th anniversary.
In fact, i have never heard of any death of shrooms among the elderly.

Regarding the dose i do not think there's gonna be really big difference in body load between 1, 2 and 3 grams. Yet, there is a big one between 1,5-2g and 3g in mental terms. 3 grams will most probably produce a spiritual psychedelic experience, while lower dose is more likely to be a nice euphoric threshold trip without real psychedelic breakthrough.
Which would be a pity, IMHO.

Since you have some time before The Trip, try to enquire whether you father had ever tried any psychoactive stuff. Like weed, or kratom/kanna which are tropical and might be known in Vietnam.

Maybe, before shrooms you could try some good buds or edibles which will definitely prepare your dad much better than any verbal explanations.

I also strongly believe one cannot overeducate himself on psychedelics. So, i would use all the time before the trip to educate my father by showing him documentaries on shrooms, telling facts i know and scientific info, etc.
I don't mean you should stuff him with all this, just a Youtube documentary today, an article from the net a couple of days later, a story of your own in a week, and so on.

All in all, personally i think this may be the best gift a son can give his father. At least, it worked in a vice versa case of my own. :smile:


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Re: 78 year old Dad; should I introduce him to shrooms? [Re: shneck]
    #21883434 - 07/01/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If I may suggest it, put a good amoundt of ginger in that tea, and 10 drops of lemon essential oil. This can mean the difference between nausea and no problem. I doubt your dad would thank you for giving him a bellyache.


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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