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Season 2 of True Detecitve. 1
#21871042 - 06/28/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone else even like it so far? I keep watching hoping it's gonna get better.. Loved the first season but I'm having a hard time getting into this season.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21871062 - 06/28/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i liked the first episode. just felt like there were so many characters that they were spreading their story too thinly.
i'm looking forward to the second episode. its downloading really slowly though
and while i have hopes for this show, i'm doubtful it'll ever make it out from behind the first seasons shadow
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21871407 - 06/28/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just watched the second episode.
I really liked me Colin Farrels part god damnit I guess the shit with the kid was a bit much. Right now im interested to see the highway patrolmens "desert" stuff.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: ChinChiller]
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season 2 of shroomopotamus cumming at u live right here right now
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Just finished episode 2, I'm hooked.
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hooked on potamus
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: John Nada]
#21872033 - 06/29/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it took the first season three episodes to really get going. this one seems to be moving a little faster. did not see the last episode's twist coming.
a few interesting things i've noticed so far with what they're throwing at us.
- the micro/macro theme of the individual plot lines integrated with sprawling fly overs. for some reason, the highways remind me of arteries and veins and the cities of organs. i don't think that's accidental.
- vinci in latin means "i have won". i don't think this is accidental either.
- this is the book antigone is reading in the first episode. from the wiki page:
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The book records Tsunetomo's views on bushido, the warrior code of the samurai. Hagakure is sometimes said to assert that bushido is really the "Way of Dying" or living as though one was already dead, and that a samurai must be willing to die at any moment in order to be true to his lord. His saying "the way of the warrior is death" was a summation of the willingness to sacrifice that bushido codified.
- the name antigone seems to have significance too. here's the sparknotes page for the play, which is an adaptation of sophocles' play by the same name. i'm thinking the more recent adaptation is the one that is being referenced because of its context.
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Throughout his career, Anouilh's drama featured biting political critique. The two most notable examples in his great postwar period are his attacks on Charles de Gaulle in L'hurluberlu (1958) and Le songe du critique (1960). Antigone, an adaptation of Sophocles's classic produced in the context of the anti-fascist French resistance, is Anouilh's most often-produced work today. Antigone premiered in Paris in 1944, but Anouilh had written his tale of lone rebellion against the state two years earlier, inspired by an act of resistance during Paris's occupation by the Nazis.
there is a war going on behind all of this, after all....
also, i found these comments from sparknotes interesting.
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Antigone is the girl who will rise up alone and die young.
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Tension of the tragic plot is the tension of a spring: the most haphazard event sets it on its inexorable march: in some sense, it has been lying in wait for its catalyst. Tragedy belongs to an order outside human time and action. It will realize itself in spite of its players and all their attempts at intervention. Anouilh himself commented on the paradoxical nature of this suspense: "What was beautiful and is still beautiful about the time of the Greeks is knowing the end in advance. That is "real" suspense" As the Chorus notes, in tragedy everything has "already happened."
- in the first episode, it appears that casper has the bones of a saint in his apartment.
i'm sure that's just scratching the surface. nic pizzolatto seems to love to constantly remind his audience of his worldliness through these ornate but obscure and often very subtle details. but that's what makes it great; the audience is the detective when it comes right down to it. i like it.
also, i would really like to know who did the opening sequence for both seasons and if they have work available to purchase. it would be cool to have a dvd of that for eye candy while tripping.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: millzy] 1
#21872063 - 06/29/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm glad it's not just me, i was expecting a lot more. so far i'm mostly bored.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Cloud9]
#21872141 - 06/29/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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first episode sucked fucking ass
i decided last nite id rather watch repeat episodes of Lost (been watchin on netflix) than watch what id assume is a other shitty episode of true detective
ima watch that, Ballers, and The Brink when i get home today tho. but i expect nothing outta TD
hopefully im wrong tho
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21872229 - 06/29/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you watch the first season over again you will see the writing for the show is mediocre. The entire plot line is extremely linear, it screams laziness to me. The acting/directing is really what made that show, without Matthew McConaughey they have nothing. This season is boring. CSI is more entertaining and I don't watch that either.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: fapjack]
#21872237 - 06/29/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i feel like bc last season was so successful the writers feel cocky and like think they can basically not try and still have the same amount of success
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Bassfreak]
#21872640 - 06/29/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just watched the first episode of The Brink, funny stuff!
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: ChinChiller]
#21872649 - 06/29/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haven't had a chance to check out true detective this season.
Definitely enjoyed last season though
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: ChinChiller]
#21872653 - 06/29/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Errolscool said: I just watched the first episode of The Brink, funny stuff!
out of HBO sunday night lineup, The Brink def has the most potential. it thought it was really funny
ballers looked cool, and i didnt watch last nite, but had the total entourage vibe
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Bassfreak]
#21872669 - 06/29/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Brink is god damn funny too!
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The brink is awesome.
True Detective. Man episode 2 ending was intense.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Patlal]
#21874876 - 06/29/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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At this point really the only thing that makes me wanna watch episode 3 is because of the very ending of 2.
I think McConaughey and Woody are what made season 1 for me. I always love Woody in whatever he's in and even though I'm not a McConaughey fan usually, I really liked his character in it.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21874887 - 06/29/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honestly I enjoyed Ballers, Brink, and the new season of True Detective. In descending order. Thank goodness I have my bros hbogo, im excited for this summer.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21875344 - 06/29/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Anyone else even like it so far? I keep watching hoping it's gonna get better.. Loved the first season but I'm having a hard time getting into this season.
I too loved the first season. Not once was there a dull moment and machanahey(sp?) And harelson fucking killed it!
This second season, for me, is boring as fuck and it seems as if their trying too hard. I will continue to watch it, but no longer do I look forward to a new true detective.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Adolin]
#21875355 - 06/29/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vinci reminds me a lot of Belle.
Maybe I have a bias towards this show being from LA n all.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: ChinChiller]
#21876755 - 06/30/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah im done with this true detective bullshit
watched episode 2 last night and im so done with this shitty bullshit
still gonna watch ballers and The Brink tho. The Brink is fuckin hilarious actually
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: ChinChiller]
#22054290 - 08/06/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So has anyone hung in there except for me? I really like it. You gotta make it through the first five episodes or so but it's' really rolling now. I think there may be only one episode left..
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I hung in there. Ill finish it but I can't say I'm super pleased. It's not bad though I guess. I want to wait until after the finale to give my full review.
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I'm still watching. Not at all impressed by it though. Gonna be one of those shows that once I've finished it I probably won't ever think about it again and a few years down the road I'll have to read the plot synopsis to even tell if I've watched it or not when it gets brought up in conversation.
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ive seen em all so far.
its alright. i watched an episode every week up until last week, and i watched them all over again to get a better feel for what exactly is going on
to me it seems really confusing, almost like theres already an entire season we havnt seen
and then theres all this nonsense i read on the internet about who is the "true detective" this season, which confused me even more. i didnt realise there was a 'true' detective in the first season, matt and woody are yin and yang, and balance eachother out.
seems like the creator of this show went way to great lengths to confuse everyone. i dont even understand who the bad guys are. at this point
obviously vince vaughns character isnt a good guy, but hes not exactly a serial killing satanist either.
i think i'm gonna wait till the last episode is aired and then watch them all again, just to get a real idea of wtf is going on. the first season was so much more suspenseful while also being easy to follow. this one has alot more action, gunfire, fighting, etc. and dozens of characters. very difficult to follow.
they could have stretched out this season into 22 episodes with how many sub-plots theyve introduced and forgotten about
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
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I'm already looking forward to season 3. I don't care about season 2 anymore. Too many cliches, Vince Vaughn monologues, too many sub plots. Pretty much any important clues get revealed through short dialogue and there has been NO natural progression. Pretty much everything important has happened in the last episode or 2. The first three episodes were boring. I really enjoyed 4-6 (that was a Perfect pace). But now all of e ending is being crammed into two episodes.
It was cliche how in the shootout only the three main characters survived, I mean c'mon does it get anymore cliche?? Of course the closet gay cop dies, he has a kid on the way!! So cliche..also macadams and Farrell hooking up was so predictable! It's all crammed together and has no pace. It seems like it should've been a 10-12 episode season. I could've gone without Vince Vaughn and his wife..bad lines, bad acting..overall cringe worthy
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Am I majorly disappointed with season 2? Sure.
That said, these last 2 episodes, while highly flawed, have been entertaining as fuck. Well IMO anyway.
I'm pretty hyped for the finale.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Niffla]
#22054946 - 08/06/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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BTW, has anyone else found the acting to be...kind of laughable at times?
Maybe I'm just too fucking blitzed out of my mind when I'm catching this shit but I'll be damned if I don't often find myself cringing at the acting. From fucking damn near everybody, too. Colin Farrell, Vince Vaughn, Rachel McAdams...the fuck, man. These are supposed to be seasoned pro's.
Matthew McConaughey's performance in season 1 absolutely shits on everybody's performance combined in season 2.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Niffla]
#22054963 - 08/06/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vince Vaughn and his wife definitely suck this season.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Niffla]
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I'm not the best judge for poor acting, I can recognize it in more serious/extreme cases but I often see no problem with acting when plenty of other people bitch about it. That said, nothing about the acting has really jumped out at me as bad so far. People seem to be playing the roles they are meant to play. When Vince is going on a minutes long diatribe I do wonder if that was just some impromptu shit like his ego is telling him that he's entitled to that speech or if it was actually written that way though.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
#22054999 - 08/06/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: That said, nothing about the acting has really jumped out at me as bad so far. People seem to be playing the roles they are meant to play.
Yeah admittedly it could just be the fact that I've been high as a motherfuck for the past few episodes. I tend to overanalyze shit when I'm in that state of mind.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Niffla]
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Enjoying a TV show (other than something light like comedy) was always hard for me while stoned as hell. It all just felt so fake no matter how well it was done.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: It all just felt so fake no matter how well it was done.

Yeah this. This for sure. And come to think of it -- I should probably watch the finale sober.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Niffla]
#22056887 - 08/07/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I stopped watching it after ep 3.
I'm going to rewatch sea 1...
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Niffla]
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Yeah I wouldn't ssay the acting is bad. In fact I'd say that McAdams has been pretty damned good. Colin has been fine but nothing special and Vaughn is doing the best he can with a kind of corny role. I definitely cringed in episode 7 when he is asking that double-crossing underling of his whether or not he "puunched [Stan's] ticket". Who talks like that? I haven't minded his monologues too much, especially early, but lately I've become a bit too aware of his corniness. Part of this is probably because I've watched every episode at least twice to figure out wtf is going on. I always notice that kind of eye rolling stuff on second viewing, which is probably a credit to Vaughn for being able to pass such corny lines by me the first time.
This season has definitely taken the long view. Taking the first three episodes to do nothing but establish characters is risky because people might get bored, but it has the potential to make the payoff really powerful because the viewer feels like they really know these people. I was pretty bummed after episode 7.
Looking forward to the finale.
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Am up to Ep7.. first couple were a bit slow, as with the first season. I fucking love this show, it's so good. Absolutely hooked. Vince Vaughn definitely doesn't suit the bad boy/gangster role though.. he just doesn't pull it off, it's not him.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Lachy]
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I was disappointed by the season finale.
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I've been trying to watch it for like the last 2 hours. It is not doing a very good job of holding my attention and I keep pausing it and going and doing other shit. I'm like a half hour in.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
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Have fun with the cinematic blue balls at the end. Quite unfulfilling.
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I'm trying it's just so hard to stay interested in watching it. Nothing good even happens until you're almost halfway through the episode.
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Well it certainly doesn't get any better.
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Disappointing finish.
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Finally finished it. After like 5 hours or more. Shit ending to a shit season. Still have no fucking clue what was going on. Felt like I was trying to watch 3 shows at once.
IF there is a season 3, they better get their shit together. This is what the fuck happens when you take a known working recipe and try to "improve it". I would gladly watch 10 seasons of something that was on par with season 1. If season 3 does not start with a bang, I will not ever even consider finishing it or watching any further seasons.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
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yeah, wasn't feeling it. i was really hoping it would turn around at the end, but it just didn't. that said, i'll watch season 3.
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i think the problem is woody harlson and that other guy are running the show, i don't think they really know what they are doing, so the way they cut the scenes and tell the story, there are holes everywhere and it makes it super hard to follow
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could not follow the plot to save my life. the fuck kinda shit is this.
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i think woody is just a producer. to me, it seemed with this season they just had too much story to tell, and it wasn't that great of a story to begin with. so the buildup was convoluted and confusing with absolutely no payoff at its finale. i'll give it another chance though. the first season is a tough act to follow no matter how you cut it.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: millzy]
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There's a guaranteed season 3. They need less main characters and less Vince Vaughn.
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Agreed. The finale was bad. Way too much energy was put into the Vince Vaughn character. I spent the first 4-5 episodes thinking he was the killer and never cared about him. So fifteen minutes of him walking through the desert talking to himself was a total waste of time. The McAdams character was totally neutered and just sat around waiting for the whole damn episode. She was the best character and nothing happened with her at all. And what about her family? Especially her sister. Are they safe now? I don't think so, especially since she had all the proof. So wtf, she just leaves them in Oregon?
Didn't like it. Hopefully season 3 is better. They need new writers, producers, and directors. Hopefully Harrelson and McConneghey pull his shit together.
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Vince Vaughns wife, whatever her character name... made me want to slit wrist. Have another abortion and cry about it. Watch Vince try to act affected.
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so what the fuck was with the story line of that one cop and her being taken into a van or forest or some shit? she said she seen the guys face said she finally knew who raped her......but then never tells who or did i miss that part?
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I'm not even entirely sure what the main story line is, much less some offshoot of it.
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All that she ever said was that she remembered his face, not that she knew who he was. It was substantial to her that she remembered his face because she had previously blocked the entire memory out, not because she knew who it was.
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They're co-producers. Not directors. They have nothing to do with what happens on set. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if both didn't attend one second of actual filming.
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am i the only one who was thinking there was going to be a lot more to teague dixon? he looked a lot like the big guy from the first season.
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Re: Season 2 of True Detecitve. [Re: Shroomslip]
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no spoilers in this post so dont worry,
but season 2 was so crap. the acting was unconvincing, the dialogue, everything. you could see they were trying to push for a really sohisticated high acting sort of realism but it just didn't work at all. it all seemed so fake and forced. the characters didnt seem real and i had a hard time taking them seriously.
i liked the concept of them picking new producers, directors, actors, plot lines etc every season. but it hasn't worked on season 2. season 1 was an amazing show, amazing story, amazing actors. even the feel of the show was just right.
season 2 was lacking in alot of ways. it was still cool and all, and it does have its moments. there was a lot of cool music and things for e.g. , but season 2 is not even on the same level as season 1 without a doubt.
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but season 2 was so crap. the acting was unconvincing, the dialogue, everything. you could see they were trying to push for a really sohisticated high acting sort of realism but it just didn't work at all. it all seemed so fake and forced. the characters didnt seem real and i had a hard time taking them seriously.
i liked the concept of them picking new producers, directors, actors, plot lines etc every season. but it hasn't worked on season 2. season 1 was an amazing show, amazing story, amazing actors. even the feel of the show was just right.
season 2 was lacking in alot of ways. it was still cool and all, and it does have its moments. there was a lot of cool music and things for e.g. , but season 2 is not even on the same level as season 1 without a doubt.
Yeah I pretty much agree on all counts.
I'm going to expect a strong season 3, though. Reason being, season 2 was pretty much panned across the spectrum, and they know it. I got confidence that they can get it corrected because we already know that they can do it -- as season 1 was proof of that.
They know that they can't have a repeat of what happened this season with the critics & viewers, or else it'll mean the end of the show. Another bad season and it won't survive to see a fourth.
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Awww poopstick. I was actually really excited for this because the first season was amazing. Right when I saw Vince Vaughn in it I cringed.
Now I don't even know if I'm willing to even start it, but I'm sure I will. We've just been watching over stuff and we binge watch shows so we wanted to wait. Game of Thrones was a let down to me as well. I guessed every single thing that happened.
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I don't mind the idea of all new everything, but when you lose the entire feel of the first season, you lose the show. The chemistry is what made season 1 so good. Everything came together in just such a perfect way that it was absolutely incredible.
This season was total shit and everything was way too forced. I didn't see much bad acting, but I'm a poor judge of that. The dialogue was pretty shit though. It was all so tedious and boring. Every episode I was only forcing myself to watch hoping it'd get better and sometimes only being driven by an event that happened in the last few minutes of a prior episode that I just had to see what happened. Beyond that the monotony of it just led me to pause it incessantly. Was constantly looking for any distraction at all.
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Now I don't even know if I'm willing to even start it, but I'm sure I will. We've just been watching over stuff and we binge watch shows so we wanted to wait. Game of Thrones was a let down to me as well. I guessed every single thing that happened.
Don't get me wrong, I still thought the season was worth the watch. If you can get over some of the cheesy dialogue, and the impossibly confusing storyline(s), it was still pretty entertaining in spots.
But yeah, it's no comparison for season 1. The first season crushed this season.
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pachoo said: Awww poopstick. I was actually really excited for this because the first season was amazing. Right when I saw Vince Vaughn in it I cringed.
Now I don't even know if I'm willing to even start it, but I'm sure I will. We've just been watching over stuff and we binge watch shows so we wanted to wait. Game of Thrones was a let down to me as well. I guessed every single thing that happened.
Game of Thrones was fucking epic in comparison. I didn't much like this season of it either though.
EDIT: Though I will guarnatee you aren't going to guess what's going on in True Detectives. Mostly because you're going to be struggling to even understand what is going on. Just about the only thing that was remotely predictable was the final episode. The rest you're just kinda there watching and every couple of minutes trying to understand what happened and why it happened and searching your brain for what line of the story the event even tied into.
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season 2 is still worth watching, its not bad or anything. but just don't expect it to be as good as season 1 was is all.
another great show i highly recommend which is very high quality is Boardwalk Empire. everything, the acting, the dialogue, screenplay, it has everything. 1950s prohibition mafia series about the birth of the mafia
and yeah shroomslip, the chemistry in season 1 was soo good. everything was convincing and seemed to flow naturally. was very intriguing and almost scary at times. season 2 didn't really have much of that. it all seemed disjointed and like they were just reciting lines from a script. you could see them trying to put pauses in and trying to make the interactions seem real, but the characters just didn't work together and was just very unconvincing.
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I liked boardwalk a lot. Especially the first three seasons..the final two seasons are more just to see how it ends.
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I havent started boardwalk but we're about to start season 2 of penny dreadful. So I guess we'll give true detective a chance after that. I'll still watch it but now it's farther down the list haha
Boardwalk empire really intrigued us for the past few years but I have no reason why we didn't just start it haha
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Season 2 of Penny Dreadful was a lot more interesting than the first one. There are low points, but overall, it was a better experience. I might not of even been interested in a season 3 if it weren't for 2 really drawing me in.
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I'm all about the supernatural neo-victorian. I actually am thinking about getting the tarot cards she uses for my birthday. *squee*
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I hope that's a typo...
Anyway I agree with the sentiment that the show loses a lot after season 2. Probably because it was originally intended to be a mini-series, and then they had to stretch the story out for four seasons.
The acting in season 2 of TD really isn't bad. In fact the chick is really good. There are some great scenes, between Ray and the young guy is a nobeable scene. But the dialogue is really poorly written and corny. It's tough to sell that kind of shit when it is written in an unbelievable way.
I agree with the general sentiment that the season is worth watching. It had every chance to be as good as season 1 until the last episode. Once that fell flat, the whole thing takes a major hit. What I am trying to say is that I would have forgiven the show for a lot of its shortcomings if the ending was done well, but it wasn't, so it just makes all the shortcomings glare.
I agree that the real thrust and point of interest in the first season was the relationship between Harrelson and McConneghy, both as actors and as their characters. But that's not to say that every season has to have that same dynamic, especially between the characters. The thing about season 1 was, here's two guys with completely different worldviews who have to learn to work together in order to accomplish a goal. You don't need that every time. This season tried to be about two deeply wounded people finding each other through a common goal, which is fine, if done better...
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i think thats partly what made season 2 so hard to follow, they tried to make it about 6 or 8 different main actors/storylines like they are game of thrones or something, whereas season 1 basically just had those 2 actors. I think the story telling was just as crazy for season 1, but because it focused on only 2 people that made it a bit easier to follow.
plus alot of this shit in season 2, in hindsight, was just filler. The girl going to see her dad? when she first met her dad i was thinking ok down the line he'll become important somehow to the story, but it turned out to basically just be a bunch of visits (filler). The gay guy almost feels the same way like his storyline , 1 example is that cash that turned out missing, does that whole thing just seem out of place/stupid now? at least he went out with an action scene. i actually liked that guys acting and felt he made the season interesting but the way he went out seemed slightly off.
and come to think of it, the way they ended every single storyline seemed off its like everything was half assed. Someone, somewhere, in the making of this show must be like fresh out of college or something thats what it feels like. Its got HBO money, with a decent idea, but its getting executed by some rookies
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I agree that this season spent a lot of time trying to flesh out the characters and that led to a confusing story. i had to watch a lot of the episodes twice in order to understand what was going on and even still I have things left that didn't add up.
I wouldn't go as far as to call that stuff "filler" though. For example you mention the lady detective and her father. The lady detective's story I found to be the most interesting and her relationship with her father reveal a big part of her inner-conflict. In the beginning we see the detective as being really angry and resentful but as time goes on and she remembers more about her past she kind of finds some peace. The scenes between her father and her serve to reveal this transformation to the viewer.
To me the biggest flaw in this show was the Frank character. I never cared. I don't know why he got so much screen time. It just doesn't work for me at all. I would have kept him out of any scenes that weren't about Ray, much like the lady cop's father wasn't in any scene without the lady cop. Forgive me for forgetting her name.
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I think they listened to the critics to much. They tried to create something complicated but it was just too much.
I was thinking for season 3 itd be cool if there was FBI involved or something. Maybe like willam Defoe, Jared Leto, and paz de la Huerta. Probably not a hot but it would be cool to me.
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Season 2 was a great example of how too much plot can be a bad thing. I've read that Pizzolatto took something like two or more years to write the first season, whereas he wrote this last season in maybe half that amount of time. Also, Cary Fukunaga is a pretty amazing director, and he directed the entire first season (which he won an emmy for). This season employed a different director for each episode. That method may work fine for a comedy series or something, but maybe not for TD.
I wasn't expecting the acting to rival that of the first season, which was phenomenal, but I sure felt unconvinced many times while watching both farrell and vaughan. I admired the tenacity of Frank's character, his inexorable grit, but there were also times I felt like I was watching a caricature of a gangster. And am I the only one who thought it sounded like colin farrell was holding in a fat shit nearly every time he spoke? I get it, his character is rough, but the rasp/growl was overdone imo.
All that being said, TD season 2 is still better than most of the stupid crap on TV. Season 3 will be better I think.
-------------------- "All but one man died. There at Bitter Creek. And they say he ran awayyy." - A little show called Branded
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