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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: ballsalsa]
#21877760 - 06/30/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: It isn't the homos making threads about having sex with 13 years olds today, is it? 
wait, what? was that a reply fail, or did i miss something?
Just a general comment not directed at anyone
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Sheekle]
#21877766 - 06/30/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He's into Jesus, what more do you expect.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Asante]
#21877899 - 06/30/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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>where you err is your own quirk of blaming it on the race, the people, instead of on the quirks thenselves. Attacking black people will only get you enemies of all colors and allies who subscribe to the same logic flaw.
Asante, I think you mean well but like many of the extreme left, you make some logical fallacies. First of all, I did not say that m Jackson did it because he was black. Neither did I say all or most black people do that kind of thing. The only thing I said in general was why did he get more or less a free pass on it? I speculated it was because of black privilege. Somehow you twist that around to be an attack. Quote the part that was an attack, there was none.
>Koods and I arent saying that because we are faggots but because this is a trend we sincerely see in your posting.
In other words, get on the pc bandwagon and repeat after us. Why is it you found no problem with child molestation, at least you have not criticized it though that is the topic of this thread? But you found it so offensive that I pointed out m Jackson? He is perhaps the most famous pedo in recent history, are you defending him because he is black and for no other reason? I will assume you are not defending what he did.
>In this matter you are the attacker.This topic is about child molestation and you hop over Michael Jackson to gratuitously attack black people like you are in the habit of doing.
Show me where I attacked black people. You are making that up.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21877979 - 06/30/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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someone might mention that while accused on more than one occasion, MJ was never convicted of molesting any children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson
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In the summer of 1993, Jackson was accused of child sexual abuse by a 13-year-old boy named Jordan Chandler and his father, Evan Chandler, a dentist.[162][163][164] The Chandler family demanded payment from Jackson, and the singer initially refused. Jordan Chandler eventually told the police that Jackson had sexually abused him.[108][165] Evan Chandler was tape-recorded discussing his intention to pursue charges, saying, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever..... Michael's career will be over". Jordan's mother was, however, adamant at the time that there had been no wrongdoing on Jackson's part.[164]
The investigation was inconclusive and no charges were ever filed.[172] Jackson described the search in an emotional public statement, and proclaimed his innocence.[162][169][176] On January 1, 1994, Jackson settled with the Chandlers out of court for $22 million. A Santa Barbara County grand jury and a Los Angeles County grand jury disbanded on May 2, 1994, without indicting Jackson,[177] and the Chandlers stopped co-operating with the criminal investigation around July 6, 1994.[175][178][179] The out-of-court settlement's documentation specifically stated Jackson admitted no wrongdoing and no liability; the Chandlers and their family lawyer Larry Feldman signed it without contest.[180]
Feldman also explicitly stated "nobody bought anybody's silence".[181]
Beginning in May 2002, Jackson allowed a documentary film crew, led by British TV personality Martin Bashir, to follow him around nearly everywhere he went. Bashir's film crew was with Jackson during the "baby-dangling incident" in Berlin. The program was broadcast in March 2003 as Living with Michael Jackson.
In a particularly controversial scene, Jackson was seen holding hands and discussing sleeping arrangements with a young boy.[221] As soon as the documentary aired, the Santa Barbara county attorney's office began a criminal investigation. After an initial probe from the LAPD and DCFS was conducted in February 2003, they had initially concluded that molestation allegations were "unfounded" at the time.[185] After the young boy involved in the documentary and his mother later told investigators that Jackson had been improper with the boy, Jackson was arrested in November 2003, and was charged with seven counts of child molestation and two counts of administering an intoxicating agent in relation to the 13-year-old boy shown in the film.[221] Jackson denied the allegations, saying the sleepovers were not sexual in nature. The People v. Jackson trial began on January 31, 2005, in Santa Maria, California, and lasted five months, until the end of May. On June 13, 2005, Jackson was acquitted on all counts.[222][223][224]
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Sheekle]
#21878065 - 06/30/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Literally every single thread I've seen by OP has been some sort of rediculous anti-LGBT shit, this dude should just be banned already
Sounds like you don't like someone's views so you just want them banned
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21878331 - 06/30/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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>Show me where I attacked black people. You are making that up.
Gee, asante has no reply, what a surprise. Even if he did reply he would dodge the question and just make up some more junk. Asante, have you ever criticized a black person, ever for anything? You gave me a ration of shit for pointing out Jackson was a pedo, claimed it was a knock against all blacks everywhere which is one of the loonier things you've said. You also made some personal attacks. It must be all that love you tell us about.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#21878414 - 06/30/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whether Michael Jackson was a pedo or not, what does it have to do with his race? I never heard anyone talk about the fact that Jerry Sandusky was white. Why? Because it's irrelevant.
This kind of racism happens all the time. When someone breaks the law or misbehaves, you're only concerned with their race when they are black.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#21878446 - 06/30/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: Depends what you consider a child.
So your argument is invalid...
You cannot tell me a child doesn't comprehend when you are clearly not the child who's age is in question. Therefore you cannot properly create a valid argument. What you are doing is discriminating against a certain age group and I sir will not stand for it.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: koods]
#21878629 - 06/30/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: Whether Michael Jackson was a pedo or not, what does it have to do with his race? I never heard anyone talk about the fact that Jerry Sandusky was white. Why? Because it's irrelevant.
This kind of racism happens all the time. When someone breaks the law or misbehaves, you're only concerned with their race when they are black.
This. And I wasnt hiding away from you but just, having a life in RL. Its not just me and koods, plenty of people made comments to ther effect that you are selective about race to the detriment of black people.
Its a logical fallacy. Doesn't diminish you as a person to be wrong about something.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Asante]
#21878756 - 06/30/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LOL! I thought Nambla was a Southpark invention. Had no idea it actually existed. Absurd.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Magicman69]
#21878758 - 06/30/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did too until I googled it after watching that episode just to see if they made it up or not.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Asante]
#21878814 - 06/30/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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>plenty of people made comments to ther effect that you are selective about race to the detriment of black people
Are you trying to say I don't follow the moonbat party line? I plead guilty to that and to the charge of thinking for myself. What does "selective about race to the detriment of black people" mean anyway? You claimed I never took the side of a black person and I gave you examples where I did. When have you ever criticized a black person? No answer to that. Are they perfect?
You said you were abused as a child. That is a terrible thing and often abused children become abusers themselves. You do not seem to care a bit about Jackson's crimes, is it because he is/was black or some other reason?
Its fine for the bats to rant about white privilege, even though they can not give a single example of privilege codified into law or policies. While we can give many examples of racist laws and policies that benefit negroes and other special groups. I would say black privilege is an established fact. Is that statement what you are talking about, the bad things I say? Is anything you disagree with automatically racist or wrong? Show me where in this thread I put down all blacks like you said?
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#21878817 - 06/30/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Shiithead]
#21878954 - 06/30/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: Depends what you consider a child.
So your argument is invalid...
You cannot tell me a child doesn't comprehend when you are clearly not the child who's age is in question. Therefore you cannot properly create a valid argument. What you are doing is discriminating against a certain age group and I sir will not stand for it.
I have no argument, fucking children shouldn't be a thing, and the majority of people will never tolerate it and agree with me, so whether I have a valid argument or not is irrelevant, you'd never gain support or be able to pass laws in this day and age that would grant nambla any kind of priveleges that gay adults now have, this thread is just something people can argue about, but an irrelevant point to make regardless. I won't even spend any more time after this post arguing the point because it won't matter to society even if you were right and they should be granted those rights, which you aren't, but again that's not the point.
Btw I've been every age of a child, so from my own experience I have a guess as to what they can and can't comprehend depending on what age they're around.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21879647 - 06/30/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: You do not seem to care a bit about Jackson's crimes, is it because he is/was black or some other reason?
maybe its because Jackson was not convicted of the crimes you allege...
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: ballsalsa]
#21881476 - 07/01/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: You do not seem to care a bit about Jackson's crimes, is it because he is/was black or some other reason?
maybe its because Jackson was not convicted of the crimes you allege...
Cant you see? There is a tendency in the American criminal justice system to keep black people out of jail.
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Asante]
#21881534 - 07/01/15 03:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: You do not seem to care a bit about Jackson's crimes, is it because he is/was black or some other reason?
maybe its because Jackson was not convicted of the crimes you allege...
Cant you see? There is a tendency in the American criminal justice system to keep black people out of jail. 
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Shiithead]
#21883726 - 07/01/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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People are born gay, NO ONE is born a pedophile
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#21886144 - 07/02/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: People are born gay, NO ONE is born a pedophile
Lmao proof of either??
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Re: Should NAMBLA be granted the same rights as LGBT?? [Re: Shiithead]
#21886157 - 07/02/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gays middle and ring fingers tend to be of equal length. With straights, not so. The more children you have, the greater the chance is that the nextborn sibling is gay, firstborn sons are underrepresented in the gay community.
This is due to hormonal levels during the assignment of gender to parts of the brain. It occurs at the time the fingers form on the foetus. Having been pregnant before tends to shift the hormonal balances, probably to reduce overrepresentation of the mothers genes in the gene pool.
And thats OK. Born that way. Just accept that.
But pedophiles? no idea. Personally I think something breaks inside of them at a certain age and they are hung up/obsessed about that age group ever since. But maybe its genetic too.
You are in societal norms here a scumbag if you as an adult marry a kid and impregnate them at a young age, but it IS a strategy that gives advantages in producing genetically healthy offspring.
Maybe its a bit of both.
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