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joshrooms
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Are these ready to harvest?
#21870112 - 06/28/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi there 
I am new to this and I wanted to ask wether these are ready?



thanks a lot,
joshrooms
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Charleskun
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870130 - 06/28/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pick the ones that have the broken veil, try to leave the un opened ones to mature further.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870138 - 06/28/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm assuming that is a grow kit? That is the best producing grow kit I have seen on this site by far.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: Charleskun]
#21870141 - 06/28/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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they are growing in clusters, should i break apart the mature ones from the cluster containing also lots of small ones?
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: natedawgnow]
#21870148 - 06/28/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I'm assuming that is a grow kit? That is the best producing grow kit I have seen on this site by far.
Seriously, I've seen a lot of good ones like these lately.
But yes Id try breaking the mature ones away from the smaller ones, if they dont come apart then just take the whole cluster out.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870158 - 06/28/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice to hear that natedawgnow 
I am really unexperienced and I sticked a fork a couple times into the substrate without thinking of the bacteria that could be a cause to expand in mold.
Furthermore I putted some Water in the bag and kept it closed. Nothing happend for a week or so and I thought that I should keep the bag closed.
Then I read that I have to give them some fresh air, and then in less then 4 days or so they started to grow rapidly. The more often I gave them air the faster they grew.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870178 - 06/28/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hell yeah, now that you have the hang of this you should try mixing your own sub and using your own spores. Its way cheaper and you can do a lot more than a simple grow kit.
But nice job! The pin set you got is excellent.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870180 - 06/28/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Take a few spore prints and look up some agar work and try to be a self sustaining grower. Look up the pf tek and read a lot and if you feel up to it, look up grains and bulk grows.
It looks like this kit did well for you, but it is by no means the best way to go about cultivation. Anyway, enjoy the fruits of your labor!
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: Charleskun]
#21870201 - 06/28/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am thinking of waiting another 12 hours maybe because theres so much happening in that time.
There are so many small ones that could develop to their regular size during that time.
Is it maybe better to lose the ones that are already mature to have more from the others that are being developped?
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870235 - 06/28/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter if you let them ripen more, you might just have spores everywhere from the matured ones. But other than that its not bad, just make sure they aren't like a week over ripe.
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Edited by Charleskun (06/28/15 07:47 PM)
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: Charleskun]
#21870251 - 06/28/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Charleskun said: It doesn't matter if you let them ripen more, you might just have spores everywhere from the matured ones. But other than that its not bad, just make sure they aren't like a week over ripe.
I thought the longer they ripe the less effect / less strength they have because they spread spores when they open the cap?
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870259 - 06/28/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im pretty sure they don't lose potency unless they are too old, or if you heat them up to like 400 F.
And if not dried correctly
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Edited by Charleskun (06/28/15 07:51 PM)
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870261 - 06/28/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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joshrooms said:
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Charleskun said: It doesn't matter if you let them ripen more, you might just have spores everywhere from the matured ones. But other than that its not bad, just make sure they aren't like a week over ripe.
I thought the longer they ripe the less effect / less strength they have because they spread spores when they open the cap?
spore drop has nothing to do with potency. They say not to let the cap open because most people don't want to have a mess of spores all over their sub.
The debate of potency before and after veil break is one that will go on forever. Some say the potency of a mushroom is decided when it first pins, some say it develops and degrades as the mushroom matures. Pick when you want, man it's all personal preference.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: Charleskun]
#21870266 - 06/28/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Charleskun said: Im pretty sure they don't lose potency unless they are too old, or if you heat them up to like 400 F.
And if not dried correctly
Oxidation is the main cause of potency decrease due to them not being fully dried or exposed to open air for too long.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: natedawgnow]
#21870306 - 06/28/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said:
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joshrooms said:
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Charleskun said: It doesn't matter if you let them ripen more, you might just have spores everywhere from the matured ones. But other than that its not bad, just make sure they aren't like a week over ripe.
I thought the longer they ripe the less effect / less strength they have because they spread spores when they open the cap?
spore drop has nothing to do with potency. They say not to let the cap open because most people don't want to have a mess of spores all over their sub.
The debate of potency before and after veil break is one that will go on forever. Some say the potency of a mushroom is decided when it first pins, some say it develops and degrades as the mushroom matures. Pick when you want, man it's all personal preference.
You are right in a way everyone has to find out his right thing. But I want to consider also experiences that others made that I dont do evitable mistakes.
I will keep you up2date with pictures as I progress.
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Charleskun said: Im pretty sure they don't lose potency unless they are too old, or if you heat them up to like 400 F.
And if not dried correctly
Oxidation is the main cause of potency decrease due to them not being fully dried or exposed to open air for too long.
What do you mean exactly? They lose potency when drying? Should I take them fresh for best effect? Or do you mean when they are already dried not to keep them exposed to fresh air?
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870312 - 06/28/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Completely dry them after harvest, then store in a container when cracker dry.
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: Charleskun]
#21870344 - 06/28/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, I mean that if you DON"T fully dry them, then you risk exposing fresh flesh to oxygen, which will degrade potency. Best way to preserve potency is to dry them cracker dry as quickly as possibly
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joshrooms
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: natedawgnow]
#21870607 - 06/28/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: No, I mean that if you DON"T fully dry them, then you risk exposing fresh flesh to oxygen, which will degrade potency. Best way to preserve potency is to dry them cracker dry as quickly as possibly
Can you tell me what the easiest and best method is in your experience?
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: joshrooms]
#21870621 - 06/28/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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any dehydrator will do the job well. Usually between 10 and 24 hours to cracker dry for me depending on the density of the mushrooms
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Re: Are these ready to harvest? [Re: natedawgnow]
#21870755 - 06/28/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have no dehydrator. Is there anything else I could use?
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