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Psil Semi ID
    #21870108 - 06/28/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)




NOTE: This ones cap is off colored because of rain im assumed. The rest are dark brown like the outsides of this one.

Habitat:
Horse dung/pasture. Only older specimens with some mid-sized grass around them.

Gills:
Dark purple/black

Stem:
Long and kinda swirly. Tanish beige. Starting to get darker now after picked.

Cap:
Small, brown and slimey. Had a nipple in middle. Convex. Also had the classic membrane skin you can peel off the cap.

Spore print color:
printing now, but based off of my hands... purple/black

Bruising:
Darker brown/blue

Other information: Few days of heavy rain and now every piece of dry dung with grass around it had these everywhere.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21870310 - 06/28/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That does not look like P semilanceata


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: mesq]
    #21870315 - 06/28/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Panaeolus cinctulus probably.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21870343 - 06/28/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Any pics of the bruising? i can see where you're coming from but i'm 60/40 in favor of Deconica sp. as apposed to Psilocybe sp.

Any more photos?


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: Blazeyy]
    #21871361 - 06/28/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i dont think that its panaeolus cinctulus.

i am tempted to call it deconica, but im no TI.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #21871778 - 06/29/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Theyre everywhwre ill post more pics tomorrow. i gathered enough today to test run as well. so i might snack in a few days to try it out. i really feel as tho they are p semis due to the skin layer you can peel off of them. theyre not pans. i find a lot of them near these. theyre nice but these could possibly be better.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21871812 - 06/29/15 02:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This is definitely not a Panaeolus sp.

It looks like either a Deconica or a Psilocybe. Did you check for pellicle?
Did it grow directly on dung, could you provide pictures?

You write "bruising: darker brown/blue" - could you take pictures of the bluing?

A slight chance this could be one of the smaller Hypholoma sp., especially if there
were slightly boggy and mossy areas in that pasture.

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shloomer said:
Theyre everywhwre ill post more pics tomorrow.




Please do! If possibly go back where you find them, and take pictures in situ. From the younger to the older, take loads of pictures.
If attached to/growing from poop, include that as well.

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i gathered enough today to test run as well. so i might snack in a few days to try it out.




Please don't, in case this is something interesting. How many specimens have you got?

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i really feel as tho they are p semis due to the skin layer you can peel off of them.




I don't believe this is P. semilanceata. It is possibly an active Psilocybe though.




Edited by Anglerfish (06/29/15 02:34 AM)


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21872133 - 06/29/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My money is on Deconica until I see the blue bruising, I'd love to see more pics tho!


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21873933 - 06/29/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



I will post blue bruising pics on the next batch i pick. these are from today. i forgot to take bruising pics and dehydrated them. i believe some of these are pan cinct since i find a lot in my area and have tripped before on them. but the slimey brown ones are definitely not pans.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21873945 - 06/29/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am trying to seperate these from the pans as i dehydrate them. If we can figure out if theyre active then it wont matter, but ill send a picture of my dried specimens so you can see te amount i found in two days. This is only from my horse pasture. I didnt venture into the cow pasture yet. Cubes dont grow here in PA so it doesnt make too much of a difference anyway.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21873955 - 06/29/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Deconica coprophila I think


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21873965 - 06/29/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and it seems most hyphs only grown on dead trees. these were in actual horse dung pieces. there are some swampy areas but these were only in the dryer regions and in the dryer dung. a lot near the running water.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21873973 - 06/29/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

seems as tho it probably is deconica. bummer if theyre not trippy :-(. but ill post pics of bruising tonight or tomorrow.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21873980 - 06/29/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

do you think the beiger specimens are pans? because they bruise extremely blue. most of the pan cincts i find are much larger tho and grow more so under grass in dirt/dung mix than direct turds.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21874195 - 06/29/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Deconica coprophila




:whathesaid:

I honestly don't think they are bruising blue. It might just be the purplish-brown spores.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21874209 - 06/29/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i think you may be right. but can any of you answer my question about the beige ones? are they baby pan cincts? becausw they bruise very very blue. and they look a lot like cincts and grow in the same area i find all my full grown cincts. i can post more pics of them too


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21874213 - 06/29/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HELP! This is a wonderful community im glad to be apart of.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21874264 - 06/29/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the beige ones? are they baby pan cincts? becausw they bruise very very blue. and they look a lot like cincts and grow in the same area i find all my full grown cincts. i can post more pics of them too




Post pictures of the bluing. None of your finds look like Panaeolus cinctulus.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21874273 - 06/29/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

will do tomorrow hopefully if i get a chance. look at my other threads. i found a decent amount of cinctulus. but like i said i dont really know what these small specimines are. but will post bluing tomorrow or tonight.


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21874834 - 06/29/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thought so, thanks for updating the pics. My first thought was Deconica. I have seen a few like this before. They are the same species but the name was given to differ between inactive non bruising psilocybe that's why they look a like.

Least you got some cincts and learned in the process.


edit: wait i'm lost i've seen no cincts either on these pics? if you mean on them photos above they're all the same mushroom or you got more?


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: Blazeyy]
    #21875309 - 06/29/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah I didnt know if those were baby cincts or not on the horse dung. But the cincts i find arent pictured above. Heres one


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Re: Psil Semi ID [Re: shloomer]
    #21877352 - 06/30/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



Yep

Now that's a cinct :laugh:


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