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Blind Faith
#21868889 - 06/28/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is there any other kind of faith than blind faith?
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Diploid]
#21868905 - 06/28/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Diploid]
#21869000 - 06/28/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've started to have faith in the universe to take care of me if I take the necessary steps needed. It seems there's an underlying logic to the madness that pokes it's beautiful head up now and then to remind me. The universe asks something of me but it supplies me with unlimited power, knowledge, support and love. As an evolved self-replicating phenomenon we are plugged into reality directly. All life came from one point, therefore all life is one; everything came from one point, therefore everything is one. Same starting point split off to arrange itself in amazing and spectacular ways, all at once, every which way, fireworks exploding in joy and relentless enthusiasm.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Diploid]
#21869066 - 06/28/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah, the poetic confrontation.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21869168 - 06/28/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The universe asks something of me but it supplies me with unlimited power, knowledge, support and love.
Warning: GRAPHIC IMAGE!

How are you different than this poor sap?
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I'm one of the chosen ones. But, I also look at myself thinking these thoughts, and know that although I believe it, I can step back and see that it's purely my opinion.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21869217 - 06/28/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm one of the chosen ones.
I sort of figured that.
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
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I'm one of the chosen ones.
I sort of figured that.

I think you are too. You made it to 60.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21869292 - 06/28/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is the age limit for chosenness?
Many are cold, but few are frozen. ~ Swami
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Good point, you've unraveled my thought pattern.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21869495 - 06/28/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Was it me or the drug abuse?
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Generally speaking, both.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Diploid]
#21871759 - 06/29/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hope
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Jufin


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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: What is the age limit for chosenness?
Many are cold, but few are frozen. ~ Swami
You definitely got me thinking yesterday. It really through me for a ride. I don't understand your quote though. After much more deliberation, I still believe there is some underlying logic to the universe and my part in it. I've been very lucky on so many occasions.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21876263 - 06/30/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't understand your quote though.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Diploid]
#21883055 - 07/01/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Faith is the truth of passion. Since no passion is more true than another, faith is the truth of nothing." -R. Scott Bakker
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Diploid]
#21883133 - 07/01/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Taking leaps of faith in life is VERY IMPORTANT. In order not to live in fear you must believe in something positive more than you do in something negative and just hurl yourself in that direction.
In the swimming pool I practice this by standing on the edge of the pool and just letting myself fall flat, face first in four foot deep water without the slightest effort to brace myself or break the fall. Obese as I am I weigh as much as two people. Its a tremendous smack. Should I fall like that on the ground it could kill me.
SPLASH! Hurts but, nothing bad. I hit the bottom. I emerge victorious.
Thats a leap of faith right there that the Universe isnt going to kill me outright, a triumph over my fear.
I did the same, backward falling but I'm not yet ready for that.
Meanwhile the kids in the pool shout "bombs away!" when I make that splash. They themselves dive headfirst, make double flipp jumps and all that. Sure they are much smaller bodied thus its safer for them but.. They have not learned how to FEAR LIFE. As they grow up their brains will develop and they realize that what they are doing can be very risky. And the more afraid you are the more dangerous it becomes.
I used to hide from life, took few leaps of faith and fear just consumed me for any and all reasons.
I'm busting that wide open with my trips too, I don't take serious risks but my mind, me oh my they are 24 hour no sleep marathons of surrender, surrender, surrender, a frenzy of everything I love and everything I fear. I suffer greatly but I always emerge victorious.
Last weeks trip, the one with the peculiar global announcement, was my Thumbprint, and thats LITERALLY how intense it was. At those dosages MXE goes fullblown PCP. Everything came apart to the core. This is a week after, I feel great but, still coming down.
Dont worry I will never push the envelope this hard again as for dosage. What It did, it was ENOUGH.
My leaps of faith will take other directions. For now, sobriety.
But take your leaps of faith guys, and take then in blind faith BUT, in a calculated way. Don't do stupid stuff. Don't take your leap of faith off a cliff. The Universe helps those who help themselves.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Asante]
#21884810 - 07/01/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha great post. Can you post a video?
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Asante] 1
#21884980 - 07/01/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You call it faith even though you know you won't die.. In your mind you have evidence that falling into a pool will not kill you, so you do it. That is just knowing your limits. Your example of falling into a pool is not faith because you understand already that your likely hood or injury or death is minimal. You have evidence that what you are doing is safe.
A leap of faith is jumping off a cliff and hoping god will save you, as we know, survival isn't common for such leaps and survivability is down to statistical probability of what body part you land on and how evenly the pressure is dispersed around your body.
You don't have to fear life to be able to use common sense and judgement not to do stupid things.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: sudly]
#21885278 - 07/01/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, falling safely into water is proof of universal consciousness and afterlife.
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Your relentless realist skepticism is very much appreciated. It keeps things in balance.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: sudly]
#21885728 - 07/01/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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*hums quietly*
"Oh my Darwin, oh my Darwin, oh my Darwin Clementine..."
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: sudly]
#21885793 - 07/02/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sudly said:

Darwin's like "Shhh! Don't tell the world my theories until I'm dead."
Because one problem with faith is that people don't like having their faith proven false. Especially long held ones regarding their entire worldview.
And people love killing the messenger.
I wouldn't be as conscientious of all the religious' feelings.
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Not every religion can be right but every religion can be wrong.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: sudly] 1
#21886207 - 07/02/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You call it faith even though you know you won't die.. In your mind you have evidence that falling into a pool will not kill you, so you do it. That is just knowing your limits. Your example of falling into a pool is not faith because you understand already that your likely hood or injury or death is minimal. You have evidence that what you are doing is safe.
My IRRATIONAL FEAR is dead scared of doing that. In fact it was dead scared of going to the pool at all and be socially outcast for being seen obese and almost naked.
I beat the shit out of that. I am beating the shit out of my irrational fears while being mindful of actual dangers I foresee.
I put faith in taking calculated risks to overcome my irrational fears but.. What I base my calculations on, not being utterly socially destroyed in the pool or breaking my neck or cramping up in fear and dying doring my falls, THAT I do on blind faith.
Nobody really knows anything. Most of what we "know" is based on blind faith. "but but but science" science you never bothered to read or trace to its roots in most cases. "but but but common sense" Where is common sense on the quantum level?
Most of wehat we "know" is really based on blind faith.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21886240 - 07/02/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Haha great post. Can you post a video?
Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it:
Fear made me FAT. Fear made me CRUSHINGLY SHY. Fear made me AVOID PEOPLE.
I had good reasons to get traumatized but that was then and this is now. Time to break out of the cocoon.
I'm gonna wash that fat away, wash that shame away, get in shape and start dieting.
Thats the plan man. Mock me at will, I know itrs just friendly ribbing and maybe it isnt, I no longer care about that.
I'm going to the pool right now and make a splash.
Life is too short to spend all day behind the computer while its summer and the sun is calling to come outside. I'll heed that call.
Bombs away!

SPLASH!
See? didnt kill any of us.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Asante]
#21886321 - 07/02/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good for you, being overweight can be incredibly intimidating with modern socialization and our precast images of what people should look like. Being fat is a definite danger to your health, I'd recommend you keep trying to wash it away with will power, exercise and healthy eating (no sugar!)
The human race knows a lot... technology isn't based on blind faith, neither is engineering. That'd be pretty silly if they were and they probably wouldn't work if we didn't know how or why.
Science has it's roots throughout history, there have been numerous failures and numerous triumphs that have brought us to the modern era. I enjoy learning the roots of science and how we came to know what we do, If you're interested in the topic I'd recommend watching the series 'Cosmos' hosted by Neil Degrasse Tyson.
Common sense doesn't work for everything, not much in fact. That's why scientific methods are used to create testable, observable experiments to make sense of things.
Actually, most of what we know is based on centuries of observation, trial and error through scientific methods.
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Asante]
#21886521 - 07/02/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Jufin said: Haha great post. Can you post a video?
Fear made me FAT. Fear made me CRUSHINGLY SHY. Fear made me AVOID PEOPLE.
I had good reasons to get traumatized but that was then and this is now. Time to break out of the cocoon.
I'm gonna wash that fat away, wash that shame away, get in shape and start dieting.
Thats the plan man. Mock me at will, I know itrs just friendly ribbing and maybe it isnt, I no longer care about that.
I'm going to the pool right now and make a splash.
Life is too short to spend all day behind the computer while its summer and the sun is calling to come outside. I'll heed that call.
Bombs away!

SPLASH!
See? didnt kill any of us.
Good luck man, everyone has their weaknesses to overcome. I'd advise you to make a plan, and stick to it. Otherwise you're just guessing at what is effective. Honestly, Slow Carb is a very effective way to lose weight in a different way. I can personally tell you it works, and you can still eat a lot of food, but you must stick to it 100% for it to work.
https://medium.com/@erinfrey/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-slow-carb-diet-a67062761d92
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Re: Blind Faith [Re: Jufin]
#21895659 - 07/04/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fat or Skinny you fuked with a determined lifespan - check genetics. Its not long and trust me like the majority of us you will not accomplish anything significant or find enlightenment.
With age you will find existance increasingly rediculous and tedious. Maybe while holding onto that tenous cord hoarding the resources and power through a arbitrary and obsolete system.
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