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Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti
    #21866682 - 06/27/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey all,

I have recently bought two san pedro cacti and a few succulents. these ones aren't to eat. they just look awesome :grin:
but anyway, i wanted to make one of the cacti have off shoots. I know this can be done by chopping the top off but it doesn't look very nice. I was wondering if i cut a "V" shape into two sides of the cactus around about the middle, would it create off shoots. You know, like the cartoon kinda stereotypical cactus.

Also if it is possible, then why don't cultivators do that instead of chopping the top? or is that so they can re pot the off cut?

Thanks for the help :smile:



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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: losthunter]
    #21866741 - 06/27/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can try what I am about to. 6-benzylaminopurine or 6bap. It is a hormone that stimulates new pups. Do some research on it, and you might like what you see.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21866823 - 06/28/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks :ooo: :thumbup:


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21866859 - 06/28/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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kosmokratorshaman said:
You can try what I am about to. 6-benzylaminopurine or 6bap. It is a hormone that stimulates new pups. Do some research on it, and you might like what you see.



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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21867331 - 06/28/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



I  dunno about the V cuts. Pupping when head is cut, is due energy from vascular ring, redirected to somewhere else than the apical meristem. If those V cuts don't go deep and touch the ring, it will probably continue to grow normally, eventually scarring the tissue. If intead those V cuts go so deep that cut part of the vascular ring, i would see problems coming for the top part.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21867913 - 06/28/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you end up making a cutting - keep in mind that the cactus will pup from the upper most areoles so if you make sure all the upper areoles are aligned with each other , you've got higher chances for more off shoots. BAP works wonders , I apply some every growing season to increase my plants.

That's a nice cacti/succulent container you've got OP.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #21868747 - 06/28/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

actually, there may be problems about watering, with Pach, Echeveria, crassula and Hatiora in the same bowl.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: losthunter]
    #21869923 - 06/28/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It may be too advanced of a technique for the OP, but he may be able to achieve the effect he desires by performing a few areole grafts. If I'm not mistaken.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: losthunter]
    #21871630 - 06/29/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If left to grow it will produce basal pups naturally. No need to mess with chemicals that you have no idea how to use properly. Patience will produce the results you're after.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: karode13]
    #21872001 - 06/29/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If left to grow it will produce basal pups naturally. No need to mess with chemicals that you have no idea how to use properly. Patience will produce the results you're after.




That's what I was gonna say.  If you water a lot and have lots of sun and fertilized soil they seem to pup from the base just to keep up with all of the energy coming in.


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: BigHeart]
    #21880992 - 07/01/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. Its been really helpful.  I've looked into BAP6 and I find this an interesting option I'd like to try soon. I bought some more San Pedro cacti over the weekend that i have cut. Going to do some experimental research with BAP soon, however for the cacti in the picture, I'm going to let nature take its course and not play god (with the right nutrients and environment supplied).

I was listening to one of Paul Stamet's talks on mycelium on my way home from work and he mentioned combining beneficial fungi into the environment to stimulate accelerated growth and health of whatever it is that is growing. I'm going to read into it more. It would be interesting to see how it effects growth in cacti (still very un-educated in the subject, so there's a good chance I'm talking rubbish ) But one can only dream :grin:


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Re: Help shaping Saint Pedro cacti [Re: losthunter]
    #21891057 - 07/03/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This is a Quoted Paragraph, It is talking about cuttings but i am sure it would work just as fine for your plant there.

"Roll up the cactus in a newspaper and spray the newspaper lightly every other day for a couple weeks. The cactus will start to search for water by growing roots and will lengthen and grow pups to start to look for light. It will wick up the water as it needs it. It does not require much water to spark this cactus to produce roots. Sometimes just a humid atmosphere will do it. These guys want to live! You can even merely spray the cactus and newspaper with water daily or ever other day. Just a hint of water will work. After you see the pups you can break them off and place the base in soil. And you can then plant the original cutting to root as well."

Were ever you Want your pup wraping some newspaper and mist when needed. Goodluck.


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