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unsui888
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First Time Messing with Cactus - need help
#21866681 - 06/27/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I have 112g of dried San Pedro pieces. I planned on using this TEK: Man De Novo's Awesome Groundbreaking No-Nausea Mescaline Taffy Recipe
Rather than grinding to powder, I was going to just crush into tiny pieces as I have heard mixed things about the necessity of using powder. Would this be okay?
Also, the TEK says to use 99% iso or ethanol, and I don't have access to either. Would it be okay to use 151 proof or 91% iso? I assume the 91% iso alcohol would be more ideal than 151 proof... right?
When the final product is done, I plan on dosing about half of it over the course of an hour. Perhaps I will dose a 1/4 of the final material, and then 30min later dose another 1/4 of the material. If needed would it be worthwhile in dosing another 1/4 after 2-3 hours if I do not achieve desired results?
Thanks for any help!
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: unsui888]
#21866735 - 06/27/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No tek can entirely remove mescaline nausea other than something that bypasses the stomach.
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Not trueQuote:
MagicalOrangutan said: No tek can entirely remove mescaline nausea other than something that bypasses the stomach.
Not necessarily true. I am tripping on cactus right now and not experiencing any nausea. Same on my last trip. I just boil and strain the cactus and drink the liquid and it makes me great.
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: Deviate]
#21866773 - 06/27/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well what I mean is, that although some individuals will get no nausea simply by eating the mescaline in a simple way, those individuals are lucky and not everyone can alleviate nausea from mescaline just by doing it differently. It's still the same molecule going into your stomach. What you did sir, was make cactus tea. That did nothing to help with mescaline orally dosed nausea in my experience. Only weed or diphenhydramine greatly helps with mescaline nausea in my experience, but they greatly alter the trip and I don't like anything messing with the blissful mescaline state, I just want cacti/mescaline and no other drugs involved to alter that state
For many people including me, I bet the only way to avoid nausea would be to extract the mescaline and either inject it or plug it, lol
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I'm really not that concerned with the nausea; I just figured this TEK would be nice as to eliminate any nasty tastes... I'm more interested in whether 91% iso and using very small pieces (rather than powder) of the cacti would be ideal to go through with the TEK I mentioned above.
I have tried around 400mg of mescaline hcl before and experienced no nausea. But for this next trip I really want to aim for the 700-800mg dose range, so I figure 56g of dried San Pedro would do the trick...
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: unsui888]
#21868976 - 06/28/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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...anyone?
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: unsui888]
#21869049 - 06/28/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You will extract more effectively if you use powder. Just buy a coffee grinder for $20. I think 91% iso would work, just make sure that it all evaporates.
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21869115 - 06/28/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe 91 will work but it's pretty easy to "salt out" to get 99%
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Salt-Out/
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21869205 - 06/28/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So 99% would work better than 91%?
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i belive 91 would work fine from what i have heard 99 may evaporate faster but i doubt there would be a significant difference
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stuckinwonderland said: i belive 91 would work fine from what i have heard 99 may evaporate faster but i doubt there would be a significant difference
There's a reason 99% is recommended. When you use 91% you are throwing away a percentage of the water-soluble alkaloids. You want the "driest" alcohol possible.
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: Nature Boy]
#21869681 - 06/28/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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are you reffering to non mescaline alkaloids? just curious because i truly do not know but i would not had thought much mescaline would be lost even though it is water solube due to the fact that in water only extractions you must boil the cacti for hours to get it to go into the water
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I hope 99% is ideal because that could bespread out in a Pyrex dish and evaporated fast
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I thought using 91% iso would just mean that the final product would take longer to evaporate? How would you lose psychoactive alkaloids?
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MagicalOrangutan said: I hope 99% is ideal because that could bespread out in a Pyrex dish and evaporated fast 
Yes, 99% is what you want. Come people I posted an easy to follow tek. If ya have 91%, use the "salt out" method and be done with it.
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21870142 - 06/28/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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From just reading, it would look like 69rons dlimonene tek would be faster and maybe easier?
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link?
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Re: First Time Messing with Cactus - need help [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21871863 - 06/29/15 03:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't realize how easy it was to "salt out" the water in 91% iso...
I'm also interested in 69ron's TEK?... Edit: just found it!
69ron's TEK
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Edited by unsui888 (06/29/15 03:15 AM)
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