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Rectal mescaline HCl dosage?
    #21866567 - 06/27/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hahaha okay you guys, I'm gonna take a shot of mescaline up my bum on Monday or Tuesday. :lol: Laugh if you will, but the thing I cannot get over with mescaline is the nausea. I've dosed this HCl two other times and ended up having wonderful experiences other than throwing up multiple times and feeling queasy for hours. I hope that by dosing rectally I can avoid this drawback; my question is this, however: how much potentiation can I expect from this ROA?

I've taken up to 400mg HCl orally and felt like it was a moderately strong trip, not overwhelming though. I've read elsewhere that rectal dosing can be 2-3x as potent... anyone care to chime in?? I was thinking of using 200mg which could be as strong as 400-600mg depending. Quite a gap and I don't want to overdo it, but obviously I want to have a worthwhile trip.

Here's hoping someone on here has some relevant personal experience. If not, I'll be posting my own results sometime next week. :cactuar:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21866610 - 06/27/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should just do cactus man, I don't get any nausea with Pedro. I have read that the pure mescaline causes a lot of nausea though.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Deviate]
    #21866627 - 06/27/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeeaaaaahhh I've had cactus 3 times and the nausea was just as bad, and it lasted longer than with HCl. :sad:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Deviate]
    #21866630 - 06/27/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Deviate said:
You should just do cactus man, I don't get any nausea with Pedro. I have read that the pure mescaline causes a lot of nausea though.



:shrug: Total opposite of everything I've heard. Haven't tried pure mescaline personally but cactus made me nauseous, and bad stomach cramps, very painful.

Staggering the dose a bit helps with the nausea. Space it out over an hour instead of taking all at once.

I never put it in my butt. That method of ingestion never really seemed like an option to me for any drug. I don't get why people just don't swallow their drugs. I feel it must be a fascination with their buttholes :shrug: to each his own.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: drr]
    #21866638 - 06/27/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just drink it all at once and it doesn't give me any nausea. Only had some nausea the first time I did it. Sorry for the wrong info, I just read reports of people taking pure mescaline and getting lots of nausea.

For whatever reason, the natural entheogens seem to agree with my stomach. I am tripping on cactus right now, no nausea, feel great.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: drr]
    #21866665 - 06/27/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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drr said:
Staggering the dose a bit helps with the nausea. Space it out over an hour instead of taking all at once.

I never put it in my butt. That method of ingestion never really seemed like an option to me for any drug. I don't get why people just don't swallow their drugs. I feel it must be a fascination with their buttholes :shrug: to each his own.




Hahaha I srsly don't have a butt fetish -- my interest is purely scientific. I've read that nausea can even be entirely eliminated by plugging, the onset should be faster and I'll conserve my dr00gz by needing less to get to where I wanna be. :rocket:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer] * 1
    #21866701 - 06/27/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First of all, please people don't discourage experimentation, seriously, I'm a dude even, and even I as a man would plug mescaline from cacti extraction if it turns out than such can produce a mescaline trip without nausea. That would be fucking epic.

Secondly, you're a woman, right? If I were a woman I'd be crazy enough to put it in my vagina. The mescaline would fuck me

Thirdly, I find it quite hawt for a woman combine the awesomeness of mescaline with penetration. Assuming you're an attractive woman, you are currently my favorite female member of this forum :laugh:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21866770 - 06/27/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, aciddreamer's a girl? That changes everything. I like putting things in girls' butts. :bubbles:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: drr]
    #21867583 - 06/28/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hahahaha y'all are hilarious. Yep I'm a woman and not bad looking either. :wink: More interested in ladies myself though, but yeah I actually DID contemplate vaginal administration...

The only thing is if it burned I would be so fucking pissed. Plus, I can hardly find enough info on rectal potentiation let alone vaginal. Maybe some day I'll be the first to report back; I've got plenty of mesc left to experiment with.

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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21867748 - 06/28/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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MagicalOrangutan said:... and even I as a man would plug mescaline from cacti extraction if it turns out than such can produce a mescaline trip without nausea. That would be fucking epic.




:thumbup:
Instead of a HCL I'd use some tar.

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Secondly, you're a woman, right? If I were a woman I'd be crazy enough to put it in my vagina. The mescaline would fuck me.




:thumbup: :thumbup:
I'd plug a potent bridgesii-monster and keep it in there for a day.. just for science.

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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21869992 - 06/28/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone else? I'm dosing 200mg up my ass tomorrow morning unless someone has a better dosage suggestion... :uhoh:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21870123 - 06/28/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Acidreamer said:
Anyone else? I'm dosing 200mg up my ass tomorrow morning unless someone has a better dosage suggestion... :uhoh:






Ahh what the hell I'll dose up my bum with ya. Where at?


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21870150 - 06/28/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would go with the 200 mg so that you're sure it'll work in case this route of administration is somehow wasteful


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21870357 - 06/28/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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TrippieHunter said:
Ahh what the hell I'll dose up my bum with ya. Where at?




Caliiiiiiii, man :sunny:

OK you guys, 200mg it is. If for some reason it's not strong enough, I'll dose a tab of acid about an hour or two in. Wish me luck, I'll report back!

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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21870374 - 06/28/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd wait at least 2 hours after administration, even tho this "should" get into your system faster than by taking mescaline orally. Thank you so much for hopefully embarking on an awesome discovery/way to avoid mescaline nausea/make due with less mescaline therefore less money spent on cacti, acidreamer :smile:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21870459 - 06/28/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MagicalOrangutan said:
I'd wait at least 2 hours after administration, even tho this "should" get into your system faster than by taking mescaline orally. Thank you so much for hopefully embarking on an awesome discovery/way to avoid mescaline nausea/make due with less mescaline therefore less money spent on cacti, acidreamer :smile:




Thanks for the encouragement! I've seen you posting around here about loving mescaline. We're on the same page. :heart::thumbup:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21870532 - 06/28/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes indeed, mescaline is the best arguably tied with DMT :smile: I don't care who laughs at this, people eat drugs and your mouth is arguably as dirty as..lol Ima try this too if it works. lol


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21870978 - 06/28/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:takingnotes:
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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: madmodder]
    #21871634 - 06/29/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have a safe trip Acid. And I am from Cali.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21871652 - 06/29/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Rectally administering drugs is supposed to be similar to injecting them. But I'm not sure if Mescaline HCL is optimal, it may need another chemical change for it to work correctly. I'll do a bit of research and report back.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #21871874 - 06/29/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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But I'm not sure if Mescaline HCL is optimal, it may need another chemical change for it to work correctly. I'll do a bit of research and report back




Sometime ago I read that pure HCL burns a lot down there.. That's why I said I would use tar, as a suppository.

Maybe you should dissolve the HCL (in water?) and then administer the liquid as a clister to avoid pain.

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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21871886 - 06/29/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well mescaline hcl seems to be fine rectally. But Pandemoon is right, it'll burn quite a bit. If you're willing to, you could always adjust the ph so it's less uncomfortable. Just look up how to make enamas or to change the PH of enamas.

Also, some people mess up using drugs rectally because they don't insert the pipette or syringe deep enough into the anus. I think I read somewhere it needs to be at least a few inches in so the liquid can stay in there.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #21872024 - 06/29/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah could someone even just like dip their finger in cacti extracted alkaloid crystal/powder and stick that motherfucker up their ass? Or is it that simple


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21872277 - 06/29/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I bet it'd work. But I also bet it'd burn like fucking hell, and you'd lose a bit as you need to go kinda deep.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #21872438 - 06/29/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Goooood morning, Shroomery. Today's the day! I intend to dissolve the mescaline in about 2ml of water then use a syringe (no needle) lubed with fair trade, organic coconut oil to administer my dose.  :naughty: Here's hoping it won't burn, haha.

Gonna go whip up some breakfast, tidy up a bit then dose around 10am PST.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer] * 1
    #21872659 - 06/29/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:picdidnthappen:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21873125 - 06/29/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dosed 200mg at 10:25am, no burning to report.

Now let's see what happens!!!  :vibin:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21873200 - 06/29/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You seem like a cool gal.

ENJOY THE TRIP <3


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: moonzo]
    #21873338 - 06/29/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hope you have a swell trip!


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: BigHeart]
    #21873376 - 06/29/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys! I'm coming up, haven't puked so far which is promising. I'm gonna eat a snack, get dressed then go for a walk along the bay. Beautiful day. I'll plan on posting a trip report later. :awesomenod:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21873805 - 06/29/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're coming up? With no nausea even tho you usually get very nauseated??

SUCCESS!!!


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21873941 - 06/29/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:bananadance:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: 2shoes]
    #21873969 - 06/29/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And to think you negative fools thought it couldn't work because it'd " burn like hell". In your faces!!


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21873983 - 06/29/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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And to think you negative fools thought it couldn't work because it'd " burn like hell". In your ASSES!!




Fixed  :heytherebadboy:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: 2shoes]
    #21874053 - 06/29/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the fixing, good sir. We must all shove mescaline into our asses


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21874075 - 06/29/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

YaY! Have a great one Dreamer hope you gain much insight to delight all things beautiful and right.:macdre:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #21874860 - 06/29/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Boofing drugs with organic coconut oil HAHAHAHA! that made me laugh really hard.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #21874972 - 06/29/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
Boofing drugs with organic coconut oil HAHAHAHA! that made me laugh really hard.




Don't forget fair trade  :wink:

SOOOOOO I am on the comedown of a BEAUTIFUL trip, you guys!!! I did NOT throw up, and the slight nausea I had passed in about an hour, which is unprecedented for me on mescaline (and this was my 6th time tripping on this compound; usually I throw up several times).

I'd say that the potentiation factor was slightly above 2x, but how much, I can't say. This 200mg rectal dose felt a little stronger than my 400mg oral dose.

So in conclusion, rectal mescaline HCl is awesome....  :pedropussy:

-HUGE improvement on nausea -- no puking!
-Needed 1/2 my usual dose to get effectively as high
-Quicker come-up, smooooth comedown so far

I've read elsewhere that tar extractions are LESS potent when plugged vs. HCl so I'm just throwing that out there for anyone who is considering doing a tea enema or similar. But, who knows, right?? Not enough data out there yet. Come on, Shroomery, let's all start plugging mescaline hahaha

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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21875258 - 06/29/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just vaped a bit of DMT (sub-breakthrough) -- wonderful synergy, even better than shrooms and DMT.  :deemsters:

Might drink some kava later on tonight... poppy tea tomorrow. Life is sweeeeet


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21875411 - 06/29/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha glad you had a great time.


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #21875419 - 06/29/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Any "leakage" issues?

I can imagine a festy full of hippies with a signature wet spot, ya know?


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21875434 - 06/29/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hahahah nope no leakage & I was sure to clear any air bubbles in the syringe before I pushed the plunger. :lol:


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #25849895 - 03/03/19 02:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Digging up an old thread here - but Acidreamer, how long was duration? Shorter than oral?


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Re: Rectal mescaline HCl dosage? [Re: psykolab]
    #25851697 - 03/04/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Just here for all the literal “shove a cactus up your ass” jokes


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