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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
    #21867575 - 06/28/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Interestingly one of the times I was taking mescaline I also smoked DMT on the peak of it. I was sitting in a hammock and just finished watching an animated movie called the Laws of the Sun. It's a really cool story about how Jesus, Muhammed, Buddah and others are all ascended masters that incarnated with the purpose of spreading the truth about our connection to each other and god. After vaping the DMT in my hammock, I closed my eyes and there was a piercing light. I was peeking my eyes open and could see I was sitting cross-legged beneath the shadow of a tree. I briefly smirked, as if my entire life was a dream to be had while meditating under this tree. I was so lucid and still, It felt like if I moved, my dreamt reality would disappear forever. So I calmly closed my eyes and maintained the dream. I had a strong feeling that I was Buddah in that moment; or in such case, every moment.

I'm not as familiar with Buddhism or the story of Buddah, so there wasn't as many synchronicities to draw upon as my Christ experience. But I think their characters and how we relate to religion through them is comparable. I chose not to take either too literally, but I try to see a deeper more common meaning.

I think the way it manifests certainly does have to do with your upbringing and religion of choice or whichever character is on the subconscious mind. If I hadn't watched that animated movie right before, I prob wouldn't have had any definition of Buddah to experience. Likewise, Christ is just another human definition that you identify most with presently. And I guess that's okay.

Have a good journey with the cactus! I'll link the movie, you might enjoy:


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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Icon]
    #21867615 - 06/28/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I smoked some more DMT after smoking a great deal of hash. I tell ya, DMT plus hash plus mescaline is one insane drug combo. My awareness got plastered all over infinity and stretched a million times.

Oh and here is why mescaline is the best psychedelic. Is the only psychedelic that guides you into the heart, which is the fastest route toward spiritual progress.

Mushrooms, DMT, they are totally different drugs. Totally different ballgame. They work at the level of the soul, whereas good ole mesc works at the level of mind and heart.

Now which do you think is going to be the preferred agent for a heart centered person such as myself?

I tell ya, San Pedro is amazing. It does contain the keys to the Kingdom of God. Mushroom dont do this. Mushroom are great, but they dont contain the magic key.


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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
    #21867637 - 06/28/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yup, my friend calls it the key too. Particularly when he also vaped DMT while on it. But he didn't go into detail besides "This is the key, man!"
Shame the cactus is so rare.


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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Icon]
    #21867658 - 06/28/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

but why is it so rare? Its legal.

I believe the cactus is what our modern psychedelic movement needs. Too many people are taking mushrooms and having wacked out experiences.

Not that I am against mushrooms, they an incredible entheogen in their own way. But I dont think the average american is very well equipped to undertand and integrate the mushroom experience. Its just too alien.

the cactus on the other hand, opens the heart. it is the key to living in peace and harmony with the earth and with other people. unlike mushrooms the cactus is not particularly interested in intergalactic communication with alien superintelligences. The lesson of the cactus is how to live as a human being.

It is the most basic. Mushrooms are like an advanced level imo. Everyone should start with cactus, learn how to BE on earth and then gobble up some mushrooms if they still want to trio.


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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Icon]
    #21867848 - 06/28/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
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You would have had the same reaction had you been raised muslim and called upon muhammed




Now how in the hell can you say that? How do you know that to be true? Theres no way you can knowtknowthat for sure..



Because that is likely their only frame of reference. So any religious experience will be attributed to stories they grew up learning as muslim. They wouldn't see Jesus, they would see their image of the prophet. Actually, one of the more noble traits of Islam is they forbid depictions of their prophet for the exact purpose of avoiding idol worship. Idol worship distracts from the direct relation to God within us and is an easy trap for Christians too stuck on the Christ model.

Sorry to make assumptions of you Deviate. I just find it ironic when people experience spirituality through psychedelics and then turn their back on psychedelics to give credit to religion. You had a direct experience with God and it's okay if your only way of describing it is through religious terms but you seem to be attaching irrationally fast to those brief interpretations.





I disagree with your logic because I was raised in a strong fundamentalist Christian home and I always expected to see jesus or biblical things on psychedelics...and out of all my trips(ive tripped a lot) I have never not once seen anything biblical/Christian.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21869230 - 06/28/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Jesus was p. cool guy, not really diplomatic, but that wasn't important, because he was just tripping a lot, wasn't interesting in stupid politics and other meaningless things like economics, he wanted to share his psychedelic subjective truth with humanity - to help others, be altruistic. He was p. much ego death all the way, though people interpreted Christianity kinda not how they had to and it got fucked for reals later and Jesus had nothing to do with it. He was just tripping balls and giving food to others. Yeah, food... Food of Gods...


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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
    #21869376 - 06/28/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't recommend it. Sober delusions and drug induced delusions do not mix well.


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