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Deviate
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I want to make another thread about tripping in faith
#21866078 - 06/27/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just smoked some DMT, not intending to break through, but just trying to help me decide whether I wanted to trip on cactus tonight. I was just smoking the resin left in my pipe and wasn't getting good hits so I heated the pipe on the stove. Oh boy, I took a hit and immediately realized I had taken WAY too much and was going to break through. Oh boy, this is exactly what I did not want.
It was way, way too intense. All of sudden I was dead and evil spirits were attacking me from all directions. I was about to panic when I remembered my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I called to Jesus and all the evil spirits fled in terror. I then experienced the greatest love and peace I have felt in my entire life. Jesus told me he was with me always and that God could do anything. He then began to heal all the parts of my soul that were broken, but in a loving, gentle way.
Without my faith this would have been a terrible and traumatic experience. Instead it was one of the greatest experiences of my life.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866093 - 06/27/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The lord reveals himself in mysterious ways. Did he tell you to trip cactus?
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: lovesquare]
#21866100 - 06/27/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was so absorbed in his love at that moment that I forgot all about cactus. But now that I am down, I feel as though it would be ok for me take the cactus and I am probably going to drink it in a bit here. But also, I think this will be my last trip for quite some time. I have found something much greater than tripping, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: lovesquare]
#21866113 - 06/27/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did he tell you to trip cactus?
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: DustJuice]
#21866163 - 06/27/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I drank the cactus. Please pray for me. I am hoping to meet Jesus again.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866215 - 06/27/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can feel the cactus coming on. Whatever happens, this is going to be a memorable night.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866220 - 06/27/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866268 - 06/27/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I drank the cactus. Please pray for me. I am hoping to meet Jesus again.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: drr]
#21866308 - 06/27/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No praying to god but I'll send ya some good vibes brah!!!
-------------------- Just remember keep the camera rolling and FILM THE POLICE!!! CLICK ME WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON? CLICK ME TOO! Let it go and you will trip into wonderland!
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866440 - 06/27/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I just smoked some DMT, not intending to break through, but just trying to help me decide whether I wanted to trip on cactus tonight. I was just smoking the resin left in my pipe and wasn't getting good hits so I heated the pipe on the stove. Oh boy, I took a hit and immediately realized I had taken WAY too much and was going to break through. Oh boy, this is exactly what I did not want.
It was way, way too intense. All of sudden I was dead and evil spirits were attacking me from all directions. I was about to panic when I remembered my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I called to Jesus and all the evil spirits fled in terror. I then experienced the greatest love and peace I have felt in my entire life. Jesus told me he was with me always and that God could do anything. He then began to heal all the parts of my soul that were broken, but in a loving, gentle way.
Without my faith this would have been a terrible and traumatic experience. Instead it was one of the greatest experiences of my life.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21866459 - 06/27/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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man the cactus feels so gentle compared to DMT. DMT is ridiculous.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866553 - 06/27/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont think I took enough cactus, either that or just seems incredible mild compared to such an intense DMT trip. Oh well, I am not going to take more, I will try to make the best of this low dose.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866907 - 06/28/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You would have had the same reaction had you been raised muslim and called upon muhammed or whomever their christ is. Jesus did not want people to worship him or go to church to find faith. His intention was to show us how god is always within us no matter what religion or name we call it by. Once you call upon that faith, you overcome the fears that were manifesting the evil spirits. I worry that some people take the modern interpretation of Jesus' story way too literally that they miss the real source and purpose of these spiritual experiences. You were obviously raised christian, so your minds only reference to such experiences will be through christian terms and references.
I've felt Jesus within me too on especially one of my earlier breakthroughs. I experienced his death and what felt like three days darkness before being risen and surrounded by disciples. I had been atheist for several years so it was shocking to feel such a connection to Christianity that I'd grown up with. I actually told my parents after that trip about DMT and the experience I had connecting with god. It wasn't a good idea in retrospect; they brushed it off and prob thought drugs made me crazy. Even though I'd surely had a more powerful spiritual experience than they've ever, they're just very ignorant of psychedelics.
I've had a lot of breakthroughs since then and sometimes experience things that trigger christian memories, but less and less. I understand them now as being purer than any religious interpretation and I enjoy them a lot more when I'm not defining it through 2000 yr old metaphors. There's still plenty of mystery in spirituality. Glad you were able to have a spiritual experience too, but I'd be careful about constricting your divinity within such a narrow frame.
But I agree on faith. Even faith in Jesus or a flying spaghetti monster is still better than no faith at all. Seriously powerful stuff!
Edited by Icon (06/28/15 01:21 AM)
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Icon]
#21866943 - 06/28/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wasn't raised Christian and rather than constrict my spirituality to a narrow frame, I have studied many different paths and religions. Honestly do you think I would smoking DMT if I were the sort who constricted their spirituality to a narrow frame?
None the less, I have my fears and my human stuff that must be worked through and I find Christianity the most helpful when it comes to helping overcome fear and become more loving. So I choose to manifest Christian experiences. When I choose to manifest other experiences, they are never as fullfilling.
But thank you, I appreciate your perspective as I appreciate all perspectives which come from a place of intelligent sincerity in this infinite and beautiful universe. Bless you.
Edited by Deviate (06/28/15 01:25 AM)
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21866961 - 06/28/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tonight, I dosed a friend with L who has been wanting to try for a long time. We looked up to the moon at one point, and the clouds had caused the moon to have a perfect circular rainbow around it (I know what I saw, I was sober, and this was confirmed by my other sober friend) I turned to my tripping friend, saying something along the lines of "this is definitely a sign that this night was blessed." As I said this, we all witnessed a shooting star. I saw a light in my friends eyes I haven't seen before tonight.
Believe me or dont.
Things happen for a reason. Much Love.
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: FractalMind]
#21867155 - 06/28/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can propably count the times i've been to a mass on my hands, was raised very secular like most people over here
The second time smoking DMT i learned the meaning of faith Not in any dogmatic religious sense, but it opened me up to spirituality Many things in the bible ring true now, but mainly whats actually attributed to jesus christ
But like the others said, this can work for many different religious traditions, i think because they are all just interpretations of the same idea inherent to all of us, influenced by local culture for thousands of years
also check out this http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Deviate]
#21867348 - 06/28/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I was so absorbed in his love at that moment that I forgot all about cactus. But now that I am down, I feel as though it would be ok for me take the cactus and I am probably going to drink it in a bit here. But also, I think this will be my last trip for quite some time. I have found something much greater than tripping, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Beautiful man, glad you've found it.
-------------------- If you go down round the bend in the river, You're gonna find a few changes been going down there. If you go down to the gas-powered flatland, Where most of the people just think that they're free, Remember the peace that you had on the mountain, Come back to the love that you had here with me...
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Icon]
#21867407 - 06/28/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icon said: You would have had the same reaction had you been raised muslim and called upon muhammed
Now how in the hell can you say that? How do you know that to be true? Theres no way you can knowtknowthat for sure..
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21867537 - 06/28/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icon said: You would have had the same reaction had you been raised muslim and called upon muhammed
Now how in the hell can you say that? How do you know that to be true? Theres no way you can knowtknowthat for sure..
Because that is likely their only frame of reference. So any religious experience will be attributed to stories they grew up learning as muslim. They wouldn't see Jesus, they would see their image of the prophet. Actually, one of the more noble traits of Islam is they forbid depictions of their prophet for the exact purpose of avoiding idol worship. Idol worship distracts from the direct relation to God within us and is an easy trap for Christians too stuck on the Christ model.
Sorry to make assumptions of you Deviate. I just find it ironic when people experience spirituality through psychedelics and then turn their back on psychedelics to give credit to religion. You had a direct experience with God and it's okay if your only way of describing it is through religious terms but you seem to be attaching irrationally fast to those brief interpretations.
Edited by Icon (06/28/15 08:22 AM)
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Re: I want to make another thread about tripping in faith [Re: Icon]
#21867557 - 06/28/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I havent turned my back on psychedelic. I am tripping sacred cactus right now and it has shown me amazing truths about existence. I understand the importance of not clinging to belief systems, spiritual religious or otherwise.
You say if I raise muslim I would experience muhammad. So what? I mean the other guy is right, no way to know that for sure but I am aware that what I experience is manifested by my higher self, which reflects the contents of my unconscious mind. God manifests in the form of Christ Jesus because that is what is most comfortable to me.
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