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How are you guys consuming them? How many times did you try before deciding something like "LSA is a joke"?
Most of the goodies in these seeds are water soluble, it is a pretty simple task to concentrate them and remove the plant matter.
Which minimizes the nausea and other unwanted effects, and allows for one to eat more and go deeper with it.
There is a reason natives in Mexico worshiped these plants.
Think of it like this, very unclean LSD can have pretty unpleasant side effects.
When chewing straight seeds you are getting much more than just one lysergamide, or even just several.
If you take very clean L it will give off a clean experience, same is true with natural lysergamides. If you eat them plain or impure extracts it is going to be less clean. If you take the time to make a well made clean extract it will give off a much cleaner effect than eating the straight seeds it is pretty simple stuff, you shouldn't eat the seeds expecting some clean LSD like experience. You should put the time and effort in to find how they work for you best and try to get more into them.
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I once did an extraction with ever clear. I should have waited for the ever clear to evaporate, but instead I just drank it. Not the best call I've ever made.
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Yeah that sounds pretty unpleasant. I hate alcohol though, at least for consumption.
Also since LSA is water soluble there is no need for solvents, even though alcohol is my preferred "foodsafe" solvent.
If you were to soak a very large amount of seeds in some hard A you could make a strong tincture potentially that would not require much alcohol consumption for effects.
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Re: LSA is a joke.. BUT [Re: Hayoxp]
#21866902 - 06/28/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I thought I was going to die the first (and last) time I ate morning glory seeds. I laid in the bathroom floor for like 4 hours, nauseous as hell, with fish eyes, and a tore up throat from regurgitating those seeds. I was in my grandparents home too, since this was back during college, and I lived with them during the summer. Good times though.
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I chewed 'em up, and washed them down with Mountain Dew. That, along with the mac&cheese from a good 8 hours earlier, was delicious on the way back up. I was vomiting so violently that I could literally feel food from 8 hours earlier being squeezed back up from my small intestines. It was seriously the worst vomiting session of my life, and that is saying a lot! Despite all of the aforementioned negatives, I would not take it back. I learned a lot that night.
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I have yet to experiment with MG, I have had some pretty cool albeit pretty mil experiences on HBWR though.
Have yet to experience much if any side effects though I have only tried them a handful of times. Once with rue even and I went to a new years concert with 3 friends. We all ate the same stuff and we all had a great night with minimal if not no nausea present. After the show we rode our bikes back to my house nd even though it was night out and very dark everything was lit up. It was kind of eerie, I could see through the dark perfectly. Was pretty cool honestly.
I have had lots of beautiful floral/ vine patterns across my open and closed eye visuals from relatively small HWBR doses.
Goes wonderfully with meditation, I have a great memory of watching myself meditate with my eyes closed while sitting on a log in my backyard.
Another time a friend suggested we just gum some of this amber semi crystalline powder that formed after evaporating some HBWR soaked water that was left overnight in the cool dark. I was kind of hesitant but said fuck it. Anyways we both got pretty damn high, and it was pretty L like. I honestly was a bit too high. We were watching nature docs and anything I looked at would bleed out into my peripheral vision. For instance we watched the Planet Earth caves dvd which is amazing btw, and after looking at it for a bit I would get up or look away and my whole house had cave like features morphing around.
We had a box of whippits too but I couldn't even do them as I was already super out of it. I would hit one and immediately the visual bleeding would get out of hand and everything would start morphing together which was cool but I was not expecting anything nearly that intense. To be fare we had eaten some other psychs earlier on in the day but neither did much for us so we went all out on the LSA
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It's definitely not a joke, phew.. it's an amazing time no matter how much nausea/cramp there is.. cannabis is what kicks it in..
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Quote:
BlindSophist said: I once did an extraction with ever clear. I should have waited for the ever clear to evaporate, but instead I just drank it. Not the best call I've ever made.
I actually did the exact same thing with HBWR. It was okay. Hard to tell apart the effects I got from being shitfaced drunk versus the HBWR though.
Anyone else feel kinda like their brain is burned/burning the day after HBWR?
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Re: LSA is a joke.. BUT [Re: nooneman]
#21867055 - 06/28/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had a roaring hangover, believe it.
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since this LSA thread has more traffic than the other i thought i'd repost myself in here
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Salomon said: as far as HBWR seeds go,
the wiki page has been beefed up a bit on the full range of ergoline amines in the seeds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyreia_nervosa#Ergolines
Isoergine 0.188% Ergine 0.136% Ergometrine 0.049% Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide 0.035% Isolysergic acid hydroxyethylamide 0.024% Elymoclavine 0.022% Ergometrinine 0.011% Chanoclavine 0.016%
Ergoline alkaloids of unknown percentage:
Agroclavine Chanoclavine II Festuclavine Lysergene Lysergol Isolysergol Setoclavine Isosetoclavine
as well as other alkaloids
so you're not JUST consuming LSA when you take HBWR seeds., as far as morning glory seeds go, i haven't done the 5 minutes of research.
but with HBWR, you're taking a variety of alkaloids all at once, alot of which induce vasconstriction which is primarily responsible for the stomach discomfort and such. not to mention the possible serotonic reactions in the digestive system.
completing an extraction with out proper lab gear will give you a mixed range of alkaloid spectrum. not necessarily just LSA, and besides with out a spectrometer you wouldn't know anyways.
combined with other drugs, or just whatever may or may not be in your system at the time , these could yeid bad reactions.
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Re: LSA is a joke.. BUT [Re: Salomon]
#21867065 - 06/28/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah yeah, I've read that the LSA is not actually responsible for the trippy effects. LSA is merely sedative in isolated form. I don't usually bother to correct people though.
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i feel at least online, it should be done, i don't usually just whip this info out in person when some one brings up the topic lol
basically 
who knows, if more people know about the diversity of alkaloids in plants, maybe more people will experiment with them to make new compounds, or at least dispel misinformation in their lives
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