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Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. * 1
    #21865064 - 06/27/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hai guys long time no see!!
I've recently been self medicating while on probation since I get super nauseous after eating the smallest amounts of food, so I saw the doctor and got prescribed Zofran but that didn't even help at all. So I thought the smart thing to do would be self medication. I smoked yesterday after eating a corn dog and I felt no nausea at all. It was pretty awesome being able to munch out without getting sick.

But anyways, I wanted to take a stand at my next probation review and tell the judge that there's nothing wrong with self medicating and that in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.
I haven't been ua though in about 2 months but my plan is to take a stand if I ever get a dirty ua. I've also motivated a bunch of other people on probation to take a stand.

I was wondering what's your opinion on this and how do you think it'll go? I want to show the judge there's nothing wrong with it and I'll continue to do so.

Thanks! :wink:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865079 - 06/27/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

interesting.

always thought probation was a little off


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr] * 24
    #21865090 - 06/27/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I see jail in your future


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21865091 - 06/27/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I doubt your plan will be successful at all.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21865092 - 06/27/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think that's going to work

Do you live in a medical state?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865093 - 06/27/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My prediction is the judge is going to tell you to stop or risk getting your probation violated. I really, really doubt he's going to give a shit about whatever reason you feed him.

Above all, I'd really not recommend telling the judge what his job is.. That's liable to just piss him off even worse than you telling him you don't care if he said you can't smoke weed, you're going to anyways.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865100 - 06/27/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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aler said:
Hai guys long time no see!!
I've recently been self medicating while on probation since I get super nauseous after eating the smallest amounts of food, so I saw the doctor and got prescribed Zofran but that didn't even help at all. So I thought the smart thing to do would be self medication. I smoked yesterday after eating a corn dog and I felt no nausea at all. It was pretty awesome being able to munch out without getting sick.

But anyways, I wanted to take a stand at my next probation review and tell the judge that there's nothing wrong with self medicating and that in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.
I haven't been ua though in about 2 months but my plan is to take a stand if I ever get a dirty ua. I've also motivated a bunch of other people on probation to take a stand.

I was wondering what's your opinion on this and how do you think it'll go? I want to show the judge there's nothing wrong with it and I'll continue to do so.

Thanks! :wink:



What will happen is you'll get a probation violation, and depending on how many you have already may have to serve the rest of your sentence.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21865104 - 06/27/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah it is, and it's time for a change. When you treat these people that are doing nothing wrong like criminals then what's that supposed to teach them? Police are here to protect and serve and stoners that are able to function in society like everyone else need to be protected as well not constantly harassed and thrown in jail, then they lose their job and most have to turn to crime to support themselves because of the consequences of jail, I lost my job when I was thrown in jail and now I'm back with my parents it's all bullshit.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 8
    #21865111 - 06/27/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nope, it definitely ain't gonna work.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: D.M.T]
    #21865115 - 06/27/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865120 - 06/27/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

just out of curiosity, what are you using?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21865124 - 06/27/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your not supposed to smoke weed on probation period. The judge doesn't care about your sob story. He'll throw you in jail and move on to the next person and won't think twice about it


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Sheekle]
    #21865127 - 06/27/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I doubt your plan will be successful at all.

P.S, today I got a phone case of the picture in your sig.



That's dope you got a pic?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21865128 - 06/27/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah....pretty much what everybody else has said. I think if you follow through with it you'll look back and think of how silly the idea was in the first place


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: s240779]
    #21865130 - 06/27/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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just out of curiosity, what are you using?



Marijuana.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865133 - 06/27/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.



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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865135 - 06/27/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.




You do it and when you get out of jail in a few months tell us how it went


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 3
    #21865136 - 06/27/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.





Oy.... :facepalm:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21865137 - 06/27/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.



I dunno what in the hell would give you that impression. Judges are even worse than the most strict parents when it comes to "Do what I tell you to do or else".

Make sure you update this thread after you execute your plan with vivid details. It should at least be good for a nice laugh.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21865140 - 06/27/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is not going to work, and this is not how the law works. For being on probation, you're extremely naive about the law.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865144 - 06/27/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Try mentioning it before dropping the hot piss?

I mean, he isn't going to allow you to do it, but why just do it and then go throw him a reason why?
Kind of setting yourself up..

You're already unhappy with where you're at, so why risk making it worse? Doesn't make sense.

You can stand up for what you believe in without fucking yourself over.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21865150 - 06/27/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.



I dunno what in the hell would give you that impression. Judges are even worse than the most strict parents when it comes to "Do what I tell you to do or else".

Make sure you update this thread after you execute your plan with vivid details. It should at least be good for a nice laugh.


I will for sure update you guys on what happens. My next review is aug 8 so if I don't post that's day then you'll know I'm in jail. I plan on making this bigger than just a one man army I'm trying to get as many people as possible. It's time.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 2
    #21865152 - 06/27/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you go be all you can be


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21865158 - 06/27/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.



admire the courage.

carefully think out what you plan to say to the judge


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shadyy]
    #21865159 - 06/27/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for being positive man.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shadyy]
    #21865170 - 06/27/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This isn't gonna go well.

I'm all for standing up in what you believe in and trying to make a change... just don't do it when you're in front of a judge. 99% the judge won't give a flying fuck.

Join norml and write your state senators.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 3
    #21865176 - 06/27/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

These guys are haters man, it will definately work! Your plan of selfimprisonment will go off without a hitch :lol:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865181 - 06/27/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was being sarcastic! STOP!!

By all means give your speech or whatever, but don't go with dirty urine!
You're digging yourself a deeper hole!
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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shadyy]
    #21865189 - 06/27/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

wait is it really a troll thread because I'm gonna delete my posts if it is

I don't want people to think I'm stupid


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 2
    #21865192 - 06/27/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe you should just shut the fuck up and let your lawyer do the talking.  Because I don't see any positive that can come out of you opening your piehole in court.  If you say the same stupid shit in court that you do here you are going to get fucked.  And be damn sure they can fuck you.  Hard.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shadyy]
    #21865194 - 06/27/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No this is not a troll thread I'm really serious about it. I don't see why not I really don't mind sitting in jail.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865201 - 06/27/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'll write to you


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shadyy]
    #21865206 - 06/27/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would hope it's a troll thread, unfortunately I don't hold out much hope for humanity in general. I've seen people say and do things in court that are on this level of "bad idea" and worse.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21865218 - 06/27/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not a troll thread brotha I have good intentions.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865219 - 06/27/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No this is not a troll thread I'm really serious about it. I don't see why not I really don't mind sitting in jail.



You will probably get sentenced to community service and more fines if you don't have any previous probation violations. They could sentence you to rehab too. Guess who will have to pay for that?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: D.M.T]
    #21865234 - 06/27/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Me or probation.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865240 - 06/27/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What are you on probation for in the first place?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: trampis]
    #21865244 - 06/27/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As with everyone it is stupidity.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21865256 - 06/27/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it doesn't work out then I guess I'll learn.
Sorry guys but I'm just the type of person that learns that hard way.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865263 - 06/27/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Sheekle said:
I doubt your plan will be successful at all.

P.S, today I got a phone case of the picture in your sig.



That's dope you got a pic?




I've got a shirt made of the picture in his sig.


Also: Judge prob won't like it.  I'd play it safe and lay off the ganja while on probation.  Not worth it.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865278 - 06/27/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No this is not a troll thread I'm really serious about it. I don't see why not I really don't mind sitting in jail.


Yeah while you help further the political career of the judge who put you there so he can say  I'm Tough on crime in his campaign ads. You wanna really stick to the man then pull a Bobby Sands and go on a hunger strike till you die but still no one will remember in 6 months.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865290 - 06/27/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Me or probation.



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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21865295 - 06/27/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hai guys long time no see!!
I've recently been self medicating while on probation since I get super nauseous after eating the smallest amounts of food, so I saw the doctor and got prescribed Zofran but that didn't even help at all. So I thought the smart thing to do would be self medication. I smoked yesterday after eating a corn dog and I felt no nausea at all. It was pretty awesome being able to munch out without getting sick.

But anyways, I wanted to take a stand at my next probation review and tell the judge that there's nothing wrong with self medicating and that in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.
I haven't been ua though in about 2 months but my plan is to take a stand if I ever get a dirty ua. I've also motivated a bunch of other people on probation to take a stand.

I was wondering what's your opinion on this and how do you think it'll go? I want to show the judge there's nothing wrong with it and I'll continue to do so.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21865315 - 06/27/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865341 - 06/27/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's a very, very bad idea IMO. However, if your mind is set on doing this, make sure you do it in THE ABSOLUTE MOST RESPECTFUL WAY POSSIBLE.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Ganga Lova]
    #21865349 - 06/27/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He knows best.  Do we have a buttfuck graem?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #21865520 - 06/27/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I doubt your plan will be successful at all.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21865534 - 06/27/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you say that to a judge, you will do the maximum amount of time that you have on the shelf. That would be incredibly disrespectful and a blatant slap in the face of the court system. I don't suggest it at all.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Sheekle]
    #21865550 - 06/27/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865582 - 06/27/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was just thinking... maybe I should be honest with my PO and call her up and let her know I self medicated and why I did it. And that's it's no prob.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865626 - 06/27/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

or you could just do your time not smoking weed and put it behind you. It is pretty naive of you to think doing this will accomplish everything. Our country is fucked and corrupt as hell, not a single fuck will be given by anyone as you are bent over the table and fucked in the ass.

If you're gonna send yourself to jail pull something like this guy did and make it at least somewhat worth it



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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865631 - 06/27/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You're still basically telling the judge the same thing even if you tell your PO. They have to report that stuff to him.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865632 - 06/27/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What don't you understand that all of these peoples main concern is to incarcerate you and keep their jobs. You should change your screen name to "Dumberthanabagofhammers"


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    #21865664 - 06/27/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yall so negative, whys that?
I honestly have high hopes about my plan I'm sure it'll go over well and I'll prove everyone that doubted me wrong.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21865672 - 06/27/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why don't we raise the stakes a little and bet on it then?


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    #21865699 - 06/27/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why don't we raise the stakes a little and bet on it then?



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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 2
    #21865709 - 06/27/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yall so negative, whys that?
I honestly have high hopes about my plan I'm sure it'll go over well and I'll prove everyone that doubted me wrong.



We're not being negative, we're being realistic.

Judge and PO aren't gonna care what reason you give them. To them you're just some hopeless addicted pot head saying whatever you can to justify your continual drug abuse.

Besides you're incredibly naive if you think this is some revelation, like you're the first person to ever try this.. They probably hear this shit on a weekly basis if not on a daily one.

I encourage you to try, but I'll be on honest on why. I want to see just how bad the judge rips you a new one for having the audacity to try it. I mean pretty much every single person in this thread has told you what a horrible idea it is and you're still optimistic, so obviously nothing we can say is going to sway you. So go for it. Just let me know what happens.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21866245 - 06/27/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'll for sure let you and everyone know what happens.


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    #21866354 - 06/27/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have a buddy film it too. That shit will be YouTube worthy


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    #21866403 - 06/27/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

right on aler, it might not be smart but its an awesome stand to take def youtube it


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    #21866470 - 06/27/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Judge, I know you said not to trick out any prostitutes, but I've got a mouth to feed, sir.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 5
    #21866484 - 06/27/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I haven't been ua though in about 2 months but my plan is to take a stand if I ever get a dirty ua. I've also motivated a bunch of other people on probation to take a stand.



Congrats, you'll probably get a lot of folks violated.  Good for you.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21866490 - 06/27/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why don't we raise the stakes a little and bet on it then?



If I loose ill gift you supporter account. But that's not gonna happen.



So when you lose  your saying you'll welch on the bet?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21866500 - 06/27/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is such a terrible idea. it amuses me that OP still plans to go through with it after 4 pages of warnings though


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21866507 - 06/27/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Are judges really supposed to choose between right and wrong? I'm pretty sure it's just their job to interpret laws and give directions to law enforcement, nothing actually moral. It's his job not to be moved by your plea, whether he agrees with it or not.


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    #21866515 - 06/27/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:ilold: yeah like 30 people told him it was a dumb idea, it took me 1 time after my mom told me don't touch that it's hot. :lolsy:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21866517 - 06/27/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Are judges really supposed to choose between right and wrong? I'm pretty sure it's just their job to interpret laws and give directions to law enforcement, nothing actually moral. It's his job not to be moved by your plea, whether he agrees with it or not.




uuh, yeah they supposed to and do choose between right and wrong.


is shooting someone in the face legal? no.

is shooting someone in the face when they are raping your wife legal? or husband? or if they are about to shoot you in the face? HMMMM....

turns out things are never so black and white, and morality is very much involved in the decision process.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Adolin]
    #21866522 - 06/27/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Are judges really supposed to choose between right and wrong? I'm pretty sure it's just their job to interpret laws and give directions to law enforcement, nothing actually moral. It's his job not to be moved by your plea, whether he agrees with it or not.




uuh, yeah they do choose between right and wrong.


is shooting someone in the face legal? no.

is shooting someone in the face when they are raping your wife legal? or husband? or if they are about to shoot you in the face? HMMMM....

turns out things are never so black and white, and morality is very much involved in the decision process.




The law has provisions for situations like those and they mandate lesser punishment :shrug: Moral considerations like that aren't made by the judge, they're written into the laws and the judge just assesses how the law applies to real-life situations.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Adolin]
    #21866529 - 06/27/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Are judges really supposed to choose between right and wrong? I'm pretty sure it's just their job to interpret laws and give directions to law enforcement, nothing actually moral. It's his job not to be moved by your plea, whether he agrees with it or not.





is shooting someone in the face when they are raping your wife legal? or husband? or if they are about to shoot you in the face? HMMMM....




Actually yes that is legal.

I can't get over how incredibly naive op is.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21866539 - 06/27/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Are judges really supposed to choose between right and wrong? I'm pretty sure it's just their job to interpret laws and give directions to law enforcement, nothing actually moral. It's his job not to be moved by your plea, whether he agrees with it or not.




uuh, yeah they do choose between right and wrong.


is shooting someone in the face legal? no.

is shooting someone in the face when they are raping your wife legal? or husband? or if they are about to shoot you in the face? HMMMM....

turns out things are never so black and white, and morality is very much involved in the decision process.




The law has provisions for situations like those and they mandate lesser punishment :shrug: Moral considerations like that aren't made by the judge, they're written into the laws and the judge just assesses how the law applies to real-life situations.





you've obviously never watched judge judy  :shake:


in all seriousness, i think your right that morality shouldn't come into play, but it almost always does. and this isnt a perfect world

i dont wanna derail this thread, but just look at the recent supreme court ruling. when it comes down to it, the only defense that those 4 judges ruled against it was because it was amoral


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Adolin]
    #21866548 - 06/27/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No, they did it because they decided that banning gay marriage violated the Constitution. Obviously morality influenced their ruling but their actual work is amoral.


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    #21866557 - 06/27/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No, they did it because they decided that banning gay marriage violated the Constitution. Obviously morality influenced their ruling but morality is not their job.





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    #21866559 - 06/27/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Those 4 judges were deeply-repressed closet homos.


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    #21866572 - 06/27/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Those 4 judges were deeply-repressed closet homos.




Right,  they are themselves constitutionally incapable of rational support for non-repressed out homos and their "deviant lifestyle" so they ignore legal provisions for equal rights. The judges in favor of banning the ban based their decision on laws that guarantee equal rights under the law for all people, and the fact that sodomy laws are mostly abolished by now and the fact that the medical community no longer considers it somehow worse for you than being straight also helps.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Enlil]
    #21866727 - 06/27/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

These folks are already smoking and have told me they don't plan on quitting so I told them to take a stand atleast then. But we'll see how it goes.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21866759 - 06/27/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I feel it's morally wrong if I didn't tell you more than once how bad of an idea this is....you have to pick your battles and this isn't one of them


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    #21866768 - 06/27/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He's dead set on going to jail or rehab or performing 20-40 hours of community service for the cause bro. So let him. Sometimes you just have to sit back and watch.


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    #21867047 - 06/28/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not gonna go to jail you'll see..
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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21867056 - 06/28/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How does not posting for a month imply one is not crazy. I think your insane for even thinking that would work. Have fun in jail btw.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21867074 - 06/28/15 02:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm not gonna go to jail you'll see..
This will be my last reply about this topic so 1 month from now you'll all see I'm not crazy.




One month will probably be around the time you're released. Bad idea broham!


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    #21867103 - 06/28/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What are you on probation for in the first place?




Anything drug related?




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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21867127 - 06/28/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.



I dunno what in the hell would give you that impression. Judges are even worse than the most strict parents when it comes to "Do what I tell you to do or else".

Make sure you update this thread after you execute your plan with vivid details. It should at least be good for a nice laugh.


I will for sure update you guys on what happens. My next review is aug 8 so if I don't post that's day then you'll know I'm in jail. I plan on making this bigger than just a one man army I'm trying to get as many people as possible. It's time.




You do realize that people test dirty for thc on the regular and compound their problems. It is one of the few things with a +72 hour window. As much as I understand your desire to make change this will only change your path from towards exiting the justice system into the heart of the beast.

And as mentioned never tell a judge anything that isn't a response to a direct question the asked, them folks have some egos for sure.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21867254 - 06/28/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hai guys long time no see!!
I've recently been self medicating while on probation since I get super nauseous after eating the smallest amounts of food, so I saw the doctor and got prescribed Zofran but that didn't even help at all. So I thought the smart thing to do would be self medication. I smoked yesterday after eating a corn dog and I felt no nausea at all. It was pretty awesome being able to munch out without getting sick.

But anyways, I wanted to take a stand at my next probation review and tell the judge that there's nothing wrong with self medicating and that in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.
I haven't been ua though in about 2 months but my plan is to take a stand if I ever get a dirty ua. I've also motivated a bunch of other people on probation to take a stand.

I was wondering what's your opinion on this and how do you think it'll go? I want to show the judge there's nothing wrong with it and I'll continue to do so.

Thanks! :wink:




I have the EXACT same problem bro. I suffer from bad nausea and nobody knows why. Weirdly enough, poppy pods remove most of that nausea and I get the munchies.:hugitout:
I have no contacts for weed so I can't try that :feelsbadman:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21869932 - 06/28/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tell the judge wutver you'd like man, but just know u're going against all odds ma man.

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    #21870249 - 06/28/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my average posts per day is 4.21

so close.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21870781 - 06/28/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There are so many other plants that will relieve your bad diets but you guys NEED fuckin weed.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21871329 - 06/28/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If that's what it's gonna take to stand up for what a believe in so be it. I personally have a feeling it will go over well.



Dont do it dude. It will almost certainly end badly for you.  You violated probation. The Judge will seek justice for that and punish you accordingly.

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    #21872637 - 06/29/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i wonder if OP is in jail now


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Sheekle]
    #21872747 - 06/29/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP, the courts have no compassion or morals (aside from those required by law). Arguing with a judge is like arguing with a cop. You're better off not saying a damn thing unless it will clearly benefit you in a legal sense. When you plead guilty to the judge your jail sentence probably won't even make the paper, and if it does, then the people reading about it will forget about you in between sips of coffee. Getting eaten up by the legal system won't change a damn thing. Successful protests involve large organised groups of people with the right goals and methods, and even when they work they still change almost nothing. Your efforts would be better spent by surviving as a criminal and gaining the respect of the people around you. Cultural norms are way more powerful than deviant pleas for mercy or justice.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21872826 - 06/29/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll for sure let you and everyone know what happens.




That's what weed does to you, careless and stupid

You don't piss on the law, and then disrespect the officer afterwards

If you piss on the law, you always have a really good excuse, not a bad excuse that you were just self medicating, that's the worlds worst excuse, the excuse of an addict that lives in a dense fog of cannabis addiction

They'll throw your ass in jail right away and they'll be happy to do so to set an example out of you

There are much better ways, and they are politics if you really care, and another good way is just don't get caught
If you get caught and you just don't care, take the penalty

But who doesn't care about their home,family,girlfriend etc. ?

A year in jail means you're never getting a normal work again likely in your life


Weed often makes people irresponsible/careless about their future, and that is not a good thing, you are lacking realism in life as everyone is telling you


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21873156 - 06/29/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP, knowing if it was a drug charge in the first place greatly changes my advice. if it was, you're screwed and they won't tolerate drug use of any kind. unless you're a medical patient in a state court. if you are on probation for something else then they most likely aren't going to do a chemical analysis.

the most important thing i have learned when dealing with the law is never admit to breaking it. EVER in other words don't tell the judge about anything you have done illegal. if weed is legal for you then fuck it you theoretically have nothing to lose.

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Maybe you should just shut the fuck up and let your lawyer do the talking.  Because I don't see any positive that can come out of you opening your piehole in court.  If you say the same stupid shit in court that you do here you are going to get fucked.  And be damn sure they can fuck you.  Hard.




:whathesaid: Trust me bro, they won't use lube either.

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    #21876212 - 06/30/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OP, the courts have no compassion or morals (aside from those required by law). Arguing with a judge is like arguing with a cop. You're better off not saying a damn thing unless it will clearly benefit you in a legal sense. When you plead guilty to the judge your jail sentence probably won't even make the paper, and if it does, then the people reading about it will forget about you in between sips of coffee. Getting eaten up by the legal system won't change a damn thing. Successful protests involve large organised groups of people with the right goals and methods, and even when they work they still change almost nothing. Your efforts would be better spent by surviving as a criminal and gaining the respect of the people around you. Cultural norms are way more powerful than deviant pleas for mercy or justice.



I'm not naive I know how fucked up it is. I believe I have the power to make a change in this world so why not do something then sit around like a useless dumbass that has no word.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21876223 - 06/30/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.




It's his job to keep the prison system occupied so it can make money for the state. The laws are right because they help him do so.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #21876233 - 06/30/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm not naive I know how fucked up it is. I believe I have the power to make a change in this world so why not do something then sit around like a useless dumbass that has no word.




change isnt always for the positive, recidivism doesnt make a positive change, it
makes another statistic for the drug war which reinforces in the minds of
lawmakers and voters alike that drugs are bad because it makes people say and do
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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21876238 - 06/30/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Or maybe the judge can stand up and be real man and stand up for what he believes in.


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    #21876243 - 06/30/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I remember when I used to believe in fairytales.


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    #21876246 - 06/30/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And they're still very real my man. Just look and see.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21876248 - 06/30/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Or maybe the judge can stand up and be real man and stand up for what he believes in.





yeah, most judges believe in jail time for probation violators and repeat
offenders, I dunno, as crazy as it sonds they kinda see it as a slap to the
face when they tell you you have a new set of rules to follow and you
completely disregard them because you felt like getting high and decided to
call it medication. for some reason they dont see self medication as actually
getting medical help even when it's prescription drugs

so maybe he will stand up for what he believes in and you'll only get 6 months


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 2
    #21876249 - 06/30/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't do it, don't dig yourself in a hole just to preach your political platform to somebody who has power over you. NOT A SMART MOVE NIGGA!


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    #21876260 - 06/30/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm:

Can you please explain your optimism and the mental image that's going through your head when you tell the judge basically "Look man, I know it's against my probation and I know you've set an order I'm not to do it, but I don't care and I'm just going to do it anyways"?

Do you picture the stern look fading from his face as the corners of his mouth start to tremble and then butterflies swoop out from behind him, and then his pupils start to dilate as he looks down and contemplates just how much of an unreasonable jackass he's been and finally conceded defeat and admits his fault and sees the light?

Like really, honestly, what do you see in your head?

I can tell you exactly what happens, and feel free to correct me if you prove me wrong. But he's going to be sitting there looking over paperwork and when you bring this up his ears are going to perk, he's going to heighten his gaze slowly to focus deadly on you, his eyes are going to start to squint, his forehead is going to wrinkle, he's going to stare at you hard for a few seconds, he's going to ask you to repeat yourself so there can be no mistake. He's going to listen, carefully to every word that leaves your mouth, he's going to sit back in his chair, take a breath, and then he's going to rip you a new one so hard you'd tuck your tail between your legs and run away whimpering if you even had the choice to.

Also as an added bonus, if you interrupt his tirade in any fashion, if you don't sit there silently and just take it, he's going to scream over you basically "If you don't shut the fuck up right now, this very second, I will find you in contempt" and if you keep on after that, he's going to have the bailiff take you to a holding cell. You're gonna get no chance to defend or explain yourself. Once you repeat to him what you said, you better buckle the fuck up and enjoy the ride. If you open your mouth to speak once he starts ripping your new asshole, you're going to get an entirely new charge.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21876273 - 06/30/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you really think that would be the first time the judge would hear that line "it's not a drug, it's medicine!"

it's going to be a total fail...

is this a troll post or are you really that naive?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21876274 - 06/30/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Also, your epic speech is not going to be as epic as you imagine it because your ass is on the line. So you will be nervous and you will stumble and stutter and doubt yourself while you stand there. It's not going to be pretty.


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    #21876286 - 06/30/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you really think that would be the first time the judge would hear that line "it's not a drug, it's medicine!"

it's going to be a total fail...

is this a troll post or are you really that naive?



I'm convinced it's not a troll post. Trolls don't generally portray themselves as naive, they portray themselves as cocky. Being cocky gets the vitriolic responses far more than naivety does.

In simpler terms (and not to insult OP) there's simply not enough "dumb" in the OP or responses by OP to be classic signs of trolling. A good troll would've had plenty of responses already to show us how dumb we were and draw more ire.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21876300 - 06/30/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nahh I'm really serious idk what makes you think I'm a troll. I've never done in the past either. I just truly believe in this and it's seems like to me you have a problem with it.


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    #21876306 - 06/30/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, your epic speech is not going to be as epic as you imagine it because your ass is on the line. So you will be nervous and you will stumble and stutter and doubt yourself while you stand there. It's not going to be pretty.



I'm not going to stumble and stutter. I won't be nervous at all because I have no reason to this isn't my first time in court so I'm used to it and have never been nervous before.


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    #21876307 - 06/30/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think you're a troll... I've stated that pretty clearly.


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    #21876310 - 06/30/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You don't know this judge he's the nicest and most understandable. He's also wise so I imagine he'll think logically and we'll meet eye to eye on this.


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    #21876312 - 06/30/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Will you videotape it for us :smirk:


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    #21876314 - 06/30/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That wouldn't be legal I'm not even allowed to have my phone on in the courtroom
I'll see if I can get a friend to if they have the same date as me. But I'll try my best.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21876353 - 06/30/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nahh I'm really serious idk what makes you think I'm a troll. I've never done in the past either. I just truly believe in this and it's seems like to me you have a problem with it.



Dude we are trying to help you. You are going to fuck yourself if they even find out you have been smoking, let alone you trying to persuade the judge to break a federal law.

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    #21876365 - 06/30/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You don't know this judge he's the nicest and most understandable. He's also wise so I imagine he'll think logically and we'll meet eye to eye on this.



All judges are nice to a certain degree... It's not really being nice though, more indifferent. They see this shit day in day out it doesn't even faze them. They're basically just the cashier at your local grocery store. Some can be nicer and some can be more dickier, but in general, they're just so used to it, they don't even give a shit anymore. That is of course until you challenge them in some way. Quickest way to piss me off and pull fury out of me when I was a cashier? Tell me I'm wrong about something I know I'm right about and call into question my judgement.

You may think you're right about what you plan to say, but I can pretty much guarantee the judge won't see it that way. You plan to do the one thing that was a sure fire way to piss me and every single person who works retail, off. Call into question our judgement. You call his judgement into question. I guaran-fucking-tee he's going to become super dick. He is going to shut you down, he's going to make an example out of you.

The last thing you want is a judge's attention and you're about to get 100% of it.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21876375 - 06/30/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How the hell have you survived this long with such  utter crap for brains man? If you're serious then no one can help you I guess.


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    #21876415 - 06/30/15 02:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)




Watch those two videos if you wanna see how quickly judges can become complete and total dicks. While you're watching them, consider the fact that the judge is going to view what you plan to say just as disrespectful as their behavior. Then realize the judge deciding your fate has just as much power. They will fuck you with a wooden dick and break it off in your ass without a second thought.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21876432 - 06/30/15 02:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah it is, and it's time for a change. When you treat these people that are doing nothing wrong like criminals then what's that supposed to teach them? Police are here to protect and serve and stoners that are able to function in society like everyone else need to be protected as well not constantly harassed and thrown in jail, then they lose their job and most have to turn to crime to support themselves because of the consequences of jail, I lost my job when I was thrown in jail and now I'm back with my parents it's all bullshit.




...To protect and serve... The LAW. and that's exactly what the Judge is going to say "I don't care if you are Nauseous, I Care if you use drugs, because Drugs or ILLEGAL!"

Do you have your "Medical Card" ? that's the ONLY thing I can see giving you any sort of leeway. 

and as already said,  Unless you don't mind "topping-out",  Probably shouldn't tell the Judge anything other than "That MJ is the only thing [so far] thats works..."


may i ask what the original charge that got you on Pb {assuming Midemeanor} was?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21876494 - 06/30/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)


So vote be active in society write senators.  You are delusional if you think pissin dirty and being honest will get you anywhere with your po or judge.  FOOL!


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    #21876538 - 06/30/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Damn Shroomslip. They are literally setting examples. If you are in a group process like that (which I hadn't even realised existed) you are without a single doubt going to get fucked up OP. How you can even think differently is beyond me.


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    #21876545 - 06/30/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

120 fucking days for saying some stupid bullshit in court?!?! That's just fucking Inhumane dude, fucking power tripping judge. I hope he gets caught drunk driving like a lot of judges do and gets a taste of his own medicine. Fucking low life piece of shit


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21876555 - 06/30/15 04:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



:eek:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21876574 - 06/30/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Damn Shroomslip. They are literally setting examples. If you are in a group process like that (which I hadn't even realised existed) you are without a single doubt going to get fucked up OP. How you can even think differently is beyond me.



This country is a jail/prison factory. It's not really feasible to transport everyone from jail (you can serve time in jail or prison, but pretty much everyone who doesn't bail out is "held" in jail until sentencing) to courtroom for the preliminary shit. So yeah, a lot of it these days is done remotely.
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120 fucking days for saying some stupid bullshit in court?!?! That's just fucking Inhumane dude, fucking power tripping judge. I hope he gets caught drunk driving like a lot of judges do and gets a taste of his own medicine. Fucking low life piece of shit



I both agree and disagree. Obviously calling someone a cock isn't worthy of 6 months in jail, but at the same time, if you're stupid enough to think any good is going to come of that or you just can't keep your mouth shut knowing the risk, you kinda deserve it. Judges are WAY above cops. It's (mostly) okay to voice your distaste with a cop. Won't bring anything good, and it might even wind up with you in jail for at least the night, but ultimately, they can't really do much about it. A judge on the other hand can do quite a lot about it. Most people sentenced aren't given anywhere near the maximum penalty. He does have the power to give you that maximum. I'm not going to debate the morality of how he uses his power, because it doesn't really matter. All that does is the fact he can. When you're in the cross hairs, that's all that should matter to you.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21876617 - 06/30/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The kid definately needed to be shown that he can't talk like to a damn judge of all people but the sentence was just fucked up.


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    #21876644 - 06/30/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You should just start smoking a joint in the court room. That will show him!!


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #21876957 - 06/30/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yup, or bring your bong and forget to shave/take a bath


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    #21876975 - 06/30/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hope he brings a shit ton of KY because the judge is gonna rip him a new one


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21877213 - 06/30/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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120 fucking days for saying some stupid bullshit in court?!?! That's just fucking Inhumane dude, fucking power tripping judge. I hope he gets caught drunk driving like a lot of judges do and gets a taste of his own medicine. Fucking low life piece of shit


Judges Don't do time for DUI you silly. The cops drive them home Shit there was a Judge here caught stealing cocaine from evidence lockers at police stations It made the local paper like 2 times then nothing was ever heard of it again. And he retired as far as I know with his full pension.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21877258 - 06/30/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Corrupt as fuck...


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21877413 - 06/30/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't plan on acting disrespectful like those 2 people. I'm also not going to come off aggressive either.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21877418 - 06/30/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:tard:


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    #21878622 - 06/30/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

stupid... stupid... & more stupid... Hope you pick up a hobby in jail. I think pretty much all of us here on the shroomery want to think like this & stand up for ourselves & what we think is right but in the end sometimes you just can't win.


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    #21878633 - 06/30/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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stupid... stupid... & more stupid... Hope you pick up a hobby in jail. I think pretty much all of us here on the shroomery want to think like this & stand up for ourselves & what we think is right but in the end sometimes you just can't win.



convincing you that what you just said is true is one of the main goals of the state :grin:


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    #21878662 - 06/30/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You should just start smoking a joint in the court room. That will show him!!




Yea man if you do what he says you'll show the judge that your a law abiding citizen and that every time you smoke pot you can eat make sure you have some food with you and when i say some i mean a buffet for a king like its your last supper. :cheers:

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21878672 - 06/30/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So OP is going to win against the judge? Is that what you're saying?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21878679 - 06/30/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Id hate to walk this world Blind and death!

how about you?


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    #21878706 - 06/30/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If anyone thinks that OP has even a slight chance of coming out the "winner" in this situation then you're just as naive as him. What's going to happen is he is going to violate his parole & be sent to jail & the judge will say "next!"


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21878719 - 06/30/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If your not in a medical state there is no way this will fly, zero chance. If you are in a medical state they may just tell you to get a RX for weed. My state allows people on probation to smoke weed if they have a medical card. They could possibly get sued otherwise.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21878734 - 06/30/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't plan on acting disrespectful like those 2 people. I'm also not going to come off aggressive either.



I say troll alert. Either that or lay off the drugs man at least till after the court date damn


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    #21878736 - 06/30/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whatsthisohfuckyou:

So theres a little sense in you after all


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21878763 - 06/30/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So OP is going to win against the judge? Is that what you're saying?



if you want to put words in my mouth, yeah thats exactly what I said :rolleyes:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21878773 - 06/30/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't read any responses and while I agree with your reasoning behind it and think you should be allowed to, the world unfortunately doesn't care or work that way, and the judge most likely won't give a shit either and will sentence you for it. Just my 2 cents.


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    #21878798 - 06/30/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:derpyouverymuch:

Im never being sarcastic again

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21878807 - 06/30/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I guess I took your comment the wrong way... I apologize then. I thought you were trying to be a smart alec. 


:hug:


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    #21878809 - 06/30/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tl;dr


if you dont have a medical card.  you've made a horrible mistake and have zero ground to stand on without that doctor recommendation whether it be "right or wrong"


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21878816 - 06/30/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So, 7 pages.

Was anyone actually on board with OP?

Did OP listen to any of us?

Is OP intelligent?

Will OP be able to sway his judge?

SPOILER ALERT:

The answers are: No. No. No. No.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21878820 - 06/30/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I understand where OP is coming from but it just doesn't work that way.


the judge, in front of other authorities, would have to be like yeah dude you're right, smoke on :stoned:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21878823 - 06/30/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I guess I took your comment the wrong way... I apologize then. I thought you were trying to be a smart alec.

It's funny because I think a lot of people have the way of thinking that the OP does until something that could've easily been avoided, bites you in the ass big time. I know I used to be that way when I was a little big younger until I was in situations, one after another, that I could've turned out alright from if I would've just swallowed my pride.

OP, think this through... Good luck.



its all good. no need for apologies

I am definitely thinking OP will end up in jail. I merely applaud his courage and way of thinking


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    #21878830 - 06/30/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You should just start smoking a joint in the court room. That will show him!!




I agree with this wholeheartedly. If you're gonna do this OP, go the full length and do it proper. Get it on camera, and spark one up in the court room. Remain cool and if possible come out with a deep, intellectual comment that will make everyone in the court room uncomfortable. You probably won't win the case, but you can at least make everyone involved feel bad about it.


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    #21878839 - 06/30/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:ohgodpleaseno:


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    #21878882 - 06/30/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I could honestly not give a fuck about this thread

if somebody is stupid enough to tell a judge hes smoking
weed plus hes on probation

He blatantly Has shit for brains

and all you people commenting serious you need to check your self im taking the piss out of his question
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he says he has a sour stomach thats that wont be the only thing that will be sour after hes tolled everyin the court room he smoke weed 

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21878886 - 06/30/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:derpyouverymuch:

Im never being sarcastic again

some people have shit for brains :cheers:




Idk if you mean me, but I was replying to OP, you were just the last person to comment when I hit reply.


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    #21878887 - 06/30/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I took a stand and did 93 days :cookiemonster:  LOL good luck with that.


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    #21879611 - 06/30/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:popcorn:
Subscribed to thread.

Since you're refusing to heed the good advice here, I'm gonna go against the grain and say fucking do it, OP!

Clearly this judge will sense how heady you are and totes give you a thumbs up, a giggle, and likely bang that gavel stating "this is the realest motherfucker alive! I hereby commute these bunk-ass charges and order the defendant to just fucking stay groovy, man!"....

Solid as a rock. Don't listen to the rest of these morons here. They're just jelly they can't be the one to gain that glory you're in store for :awesome:
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    #21879636 - 06/30/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As far as I can tell this guy is into receiving buttsecks on a regular schedule


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    #21879638 - 06/30/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP what kind of time are you looking at for punishment should you fail on probation?


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    #21886282 - 07/02/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

aler, you have a chance at this buddy:

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    #21886372 - 07/02/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We need a new gremlin for aler.  :loljail: or something to that effect.


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    #21911736 - 07/07/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21911753 - 07/07/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I bet he'll chicken out and not do it


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You should just start smoking a joint in the court room. That will show him!!




I agree with this wholeheartedly. If you're gonna do this OP, go the full length and do it proper. Get it on camera, and spark one up in the court room. Remain cool and if possible come out with a deep, intellectual comment that will make everyone in the court room uncomfortable. You probably won't win the case, but you can at least make everyone involved feel bad about it.




Except everyone including the judge is gonna remember him as some dumbass who lit one up in the courthouse. Theres a time and place to fight against those laws. The courtroom isnt one of them.


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    #21911974 - 07/07/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Didn't read thread.. have fun in jail bro.


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    #21912043 - 07/07/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Didn't read thread.. have fun in jail bro.



You should. :lol:

The OPs constant optimism and talk of "I think it's going to go very well" are hilarious.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21912056 - 07/07/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My favorite part is OP convincing others to violate their parole.


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    #21912082 - 07/07/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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twelvelookslikeu said:
You should just start smoking a joint in the court room. That will show him!!




I agree with this wholeheartedly. If you're gonna do this OP, go the full length and do it proper. Get it on camera, and spark one up in the court room. Remain cool and if possible come out with a deep, intellectual comment that will make everyone in the court room uncomfortable. You probably won't win the case, but you can at least make everyone involved feel bad about it.



Why the fuck would they feel bad about it? These people are at their place of work. Do you like random people coming to your job and telling you how to do it? Fucking horrible and stupid idea focused on the hope that the person doing it would be so important that they would 'change the world.'

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    #21912096 - 07/07/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is he in jail yet. You would HAVE To be high in order to rationalize such bullshit:rofl2:


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    #21912278 - 07/07/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

he said he has court in august.. just wait guys


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    #21915507 - 07/08/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Bring a joint for the Judge, you might as well be nice while you're being stupid ?;-)


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    #21915579 - 07/08/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think OP will have great success!!! Stand tall and stand your ground!!









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    #21915888 - 07/08/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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My favorite part is OP convincing others to violate their parole.



Hahahah that part killed me.


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    #21915955 - 07/08/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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My favorite part is OP convincing others to violate their parole.



Hahahah that part killed me.




There's nothing better than weed when you're high, you want to give weed to the world
also those that forgot the weeds

I'm sure we could all be happy if we could just smoke a lil bit weed? :shrug:

Why so much responsibility? , who needs a job and an education?


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    #21915981 - 07/08/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

society needs education. education benefits society


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler]
    #21916025 - 07/08/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.



in the end, it's the judge's job to enforce the law




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    #21916035 - 07/08/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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society needs education. education benefits society



Education in what?


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    #21916046 - 07/08/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Herbology.


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    #21916058 - 07/08/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think OP is in jail he hasn't posted since Sunday.


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    #21916071 - 07/08/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He said a ways back he doesn't go to review (dunno wtf this is, I never had a review while on probation) or whatever until August.


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    #21916123 - 07/08/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just remember this OP: You won't be able to continue to self medicate in jail.


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    #21916194 - 07/08/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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society needs education. education benefits society



Education in what?



education in general. kids are made to go to school because it genreally benefits society. we pay for kids to go to school to invent new drugs to help us live longer and stay erect. we make kids go to school to make our lives better. that's just a simple fact
if there was no public education we wouldn't have anywhere near the technology or communication we have today.


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    #21916232 - 07/08/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That used to be true before liberal fucking morons took over the whole system and flooded it with bullshit.  The vast mjority of the little peckerheads in school don't contribute at all ever and end up being whiny demanding cunts because they have been taught by liberal shitbags that it is their right to be taken care of.  Then there is the unions that make it very difficult to fire bad teachers.  So the situation we have now is that curriculum sucks and the teachers suck and the administrators suck because nobody is accountable

Public education has become public miseducation and propaganda indoctrination.  Did you know that assholes who judge this shit say that there are racist math questions and that is why some races do less well?


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    #21916239 - 07/08/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The standardized testing bullshit doesn't help much either. Every teacher I've spoken too hates that shit.


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    #21916271 - 07/08/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Of course they hate it.  They don't want to be held accountable.  The worst thing that ever happened to the education system in the US was unionization.  Unions exist for union members.  They do not exist for quality of education.  The bottom 10 percent of teachers should be fired every year.


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    #21916290 - 07/08/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Did you know that assholes who judge this shit say that there are racist math questions and that is why some races do less well?



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    #21916303 - 07/08/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The bottom 10 percent of teachers should be fired every year.




I didn't realize there was a huge pool of more qualified teachers standing ready to enter a cutthroat job market like you suggest for the privilege to educate entitled little brats for less than 50k a year.


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    #21916308 - 07/08/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Teachers don't want their curricula to be micromanaged by idiots who've never even been near their schools. It's got nothing to do with unions. The whole principle behind standardized testing is bogus. If standardized tests were worth a shit then a Chinese education would be better than an American one, and it isn't. The tests are there to try to make sure that standards are met, but the standards blow and so do the tests.


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    #21916321 - 07/08/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The bottom 10 percent of teachers should be fired every year.




I didn't realize there was a huge pool of more qualified teachers standing ready to enter a cutthroat job market like you suggest for the privilege to educate entitled little brats for less than 50k a year.



There is. I used to be a teacher, so I know lots of them.

If you've less than a Bachelor's you're underqualified to be a teacher and more than a Bachelor's you're overqualified to be a teacher, at least here in Ohio. The way teachers are hired is a bit silly like that.

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    #21916340 - 07/08/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh, well fine then, fuck those unionized idiots!  Let the most competent survive!


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    #21916345 - 07/08/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Teachers don't want their curricula to be micromanaged by idiots who've never even been near their schools. It's got nothing to do with unions. The whole principle behind standardized testing is bogus. If standardized tests were worth a shit then a Chinese education would be better than an American one, and it isn't. The tests are there to try to make sure that standards are met, but the standards blow and so do the tests.




Standardized testing is de rigeur.  Are we going to judge each snowflake by how gracefully it falls?  A math question is a math question is a math question.  Solve for.  History is either known or not known.  Grammar is either followed or not followed.  Vocabulary is either known or not known.  These are simple concepts.

I do not disagree with your contention that the current standard testing is somewhat whack but the standard tests I took 40 plus years ago were legit.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21916371 - 07/08/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They use calculators now.


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    #21916384 - 07/08/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They use calculators now.



Yeah, I know.  I do not think that is a good idea.  Not in high school.  You need to be grounded in the basics.  The people who invented the calculator were.


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    #21916416 - 07/08/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Teachers don't want their curricula to be micromanaged by idiots who've never even been near their schools. It's got nothing to do with unions. The whole principle behind standardized testing is bogus. If standardized tests were worth a shit then a Chinese education would be better than an American one, and it isn't. The tests are there to try to make sure that standards are met, but the standards blow and so do the tests.




Standardized testing is de rigeur.  Are we going to judge each snowflake by how gracefully it falls?  A math question is a math question is a math question.  Solve for.  History is either known or not known.  Grammar is either followed or not followed.  Vocabulary is either known or not known.  These are simple concepts.

I do not disagree with your contention that the current standard testing is somewhat whack but the standard tests I took 40 plus years ago were legit.




Education is more complicated than that though. When you over-standardize education, you effectively specify it because all the time and resources are tied up in meeting the excessive standards. The teachers can't spend time to really develop ideas that they have some expertise in because they can only spend a limited time on all the subjects and they have to cover them all. That cuts back on time for things like experiments and hands on activities because those aren't on the test. Teachers start teaching to the test and sudden;y legit questions like "why are we learning algebra?" get ignored because being able to solve a quadratic equation on test day becomes more important. It doesn't matter if the student know why their doing what their doing or if they develop any value for what they're learning because that's not on the tests.

And the tests have changed a hell of a lot since 40 years ago. They give standardized tests in elementary school now. 11 year olds should not spend all school day for a week taking lame standardized tests. Pretty soon schools are going to work as well as congress.


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    #21916433 - 07/08/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe you wouldn't be nauseous if you didn't eat corn dogs, op.


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    #21916434 - 07/08/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They use calculators now.



Yeah, I know.  I do not think that is a good idea.  Not in high school.  You need to be grounded in the basics.  The people who invented the calculator were.




I don't think I ever used a calculator in a math class in college, and I took stuff like calculus and complex analysis. We learned how the calculators worked. I remember my calc teacher bitching because his incoming freshmen didn't know how to add fractions without a calculator though. I'd have been embarrassed to be them.


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    #21916436 - 07/08/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Change the tests back to what they were 40 years ago.  The problem is not testing per se.  It is the tests as they are currently constructed by overthinking liberal jerkoffs.


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    #21916463 - 07/08/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Change the tests back to what they were 40 years ago.  The problem is not testing per se.  It is the tests as they are currently constructed by overthinking liberal jerkoffs.




They're so bad it's almost like liberal jerkoffs and conservative nere-do-wells (don't foget no child left behind) teamed up to put them in place. Testing as it was done 40 years ago would be a huge improvement, which is a pretty sad statement about the progress of education.


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    #21916501 - 07/08/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:derail:

OP will be medicated by many others in the shower  :showerlove:


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    #21917017 - 07/08/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The bottom 10 percent of teachers should be fired every year.




I didn't realize there was a huge pool of more qualified teachers standing ready to enter a cutthroat job market like you suggest for the privilege to educate entitled little brats for less than 50k a year.



There is. I used to be a teacher, so I know lots of them.

If you've less than a Bachelor's you're underqualified to be a teacher and more than a Bachelor's you're overqualified to be a teacher, at least here in Ohio. The way teachers are hired is a bit silly like that.

No one becomes a teacher for the wages.




What bachelor do you take to be able to teach in school?

Here you need at least 4 years edu + teaching experience (seminarium)


If it only required a bachelor it would be more interesting , must be boring to learn semantics for 4 years, but I suppose it sorts off all the non-serious applicants with that extra year, else we might get very unprofessional teachers maybe in some cases


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    #21917045 - 07/08/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Education or a general subject like Math, History, etc. Something along those lines.

Most get teaching experience during university. I did.


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    #21917063 - 07/08/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Education or a general subject like Math, History, etc. Something along those lines.

Most get teaching experience during university. I did.




Very interesting since I'm still taking my bachelors, always wondered about becoming a teacher, could be fun, keep feeling like that would be a great way to live

Sounds plausible here too! - I know a few that teach besides their study
So maybe that will be fine for requirements for a job


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: lessismore]
    #21917271 - 07/08/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

zappa, I agree, education has gone down the shitter.. they don't prepare you for life. i'm going to quote adam savage from mythbusters "If you want the kids' test scores up, bring back band and bring back shop and get kids actually learning stuff instead of teaching them how to take a test"


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    #22073664 - 08/10/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've been patiently waiting for an update, it's now August 10th, you said your review was August 8th. What happened?

Last seen 3+ days ago :lolsy:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22073669 - 08/10/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shLong] * 1
    #22073681 - 08/10/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i guess the judge must have decided to be a smartass and said how u gunna do that when your in jail?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #22073721 - 08/10/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah it is, and it's time for a change. When you treat these people that are doing nothing wrong like criminals then what's that supposed to teach them? Police are here to protect and serve and stoners that are able to function in society like everyone else need to be protected as well not constantly harassed and thrown in jail, then they lose their job and most have to turn to crime to support themselves because of the consequences of jail, I lost my job when I was thrown in jail and now I'm back with my parents it's all bullshit.





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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22073794 - 08/10/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Last seen 3+ days ago :lolsy:



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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22074186 - 08/10/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't you just say you've been sober? Marijuana will be legal soon enough and then the government will have even more control over everyone.


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    #22074474 - 08/10/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

good idea bra but he is making a point for the rest of us, true stupid as hell but obviously there is no helping that. 

i wonder if he actually was dumb enough to go through with his idea?


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 1
    #22074562 - 08/11/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I will for sure update you guys on what happens. My next review is aug 8 so if I don't post that's day then you'll know I'm in jail. I plan on making this bigger than just a one man army I'm trying to get as many people as possible. It's time.




Today's date: Aug 11

Not looking good.  My advice would have been to get out of the clutches of Johnny Law and then become a political activists. maybe he can rally the prison population for the right to brew toilet hooch without the goddang screws coming in and throwing him in the hole :shakefist: solidarity brother


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22074587 - 08/11/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nothing wrong with what the op is trying to do, nor is it stupid; as long as u are aware of the consequences or even expecting them to occur.

What the op is doing is brave and I commend him.


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    #22074611 - 08/11/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not even clear on exactly what he was planning to say, or what sorts of things he was encouraging others to say.  If you can't say something that helps you in court, what you do is say nothing.  This all just seems poorly conceived, disorganized, and doomed to fail.


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    #22074613 - 08/11/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm: Knowing the consequences is what makes it stupid. This isn't how you change things. This is MORE detrimental to the cause than it is helpful. WTF is this going to do aside from reinforce the court's idea that addicts will say whatever they have to, to justify their usage and they need to be protected from themselves? Or that drug users are just criminals who think they live outside the law and can do whatever they feel like doing.

Court/probation is not the place to grandstand about acceptance and legalization. Alcohol is legal, but it's usually something else you're not allowed to do while on probation. You aren't making any point by violating your probation just because you think it's fucked up, other than you're a criminal/fuck up who has no respect for law. That is LITERALLY the only thing a judge is going to see it as.

Everyone knows the rules of their probation, they accept those rules when they accept the probation. If you can't follow those rules, don't get the fucking probation. You're only shooting yourself in the foot. You can either follow the rules of your probation and live outside of a cell, or you can be put in jail where you have no choice but to obey the rules.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22074616 - 08/11/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:I'm not even clear on exactly what he was planning to say, or what sorts of things he was encouraging others to say.  If you can't say something that helps you in court, what you do is say nothing.  This all just seems poorly conceived, disorganized, and doomed to fail.




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I wanted to take a stand at my next probation review and tell the judge that there's nothing wrong with self medicating and that in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.




Doesn't really matter what wording he planned to use, the general idea is laid out in the OP. As far as the judge's interpretation of what he says regardless of how he words it is: He's going to say there is nothing wrong with smoking weed and then tell the judge what his job is. Both are a completely idiotic thing to do.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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    #22074802 - 08/11/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I bet OP is going to show back up after he gets out of jail, and then he's going to claim that he totally wasn't in jail during that time. :rofl:


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    #22074806 - 08/11/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

" sorry I haven't been on guys. When I told the judge I wouldnt stop dosing myself he told me that he was so impressed with my courage and determination that he sent me on a free cruise to Mexico for a month :smile:"


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    #22075088 - 08/11/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah it is, and it's time for a change. When you treat these people that are doing nothing wrong like criminals then what's that supposed to teach them? Police are here to protect and serve and stoners that are able to function in society like everyone else need to be protected as well not constantly harassed and thrown in jail, then they lose their job and most have to turn to crime to support themselves because of the consequences of jail, I lost my job when I was thrown in jail and now I'm back with my parents it's all bullshit.





:facepalm:




Nailed it.

I kinda  feel for OP, but he should've realized he was in no position to "make a stand". It's one thing to flout stupid or unfair laws, but anyone can tell you this is best done conspicuously.

I wonder how long he's in for.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22075101 - 08/11/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No that judge totally legalized pot across the entire globe a few days ago.


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    #22075159 - 08/11/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:thatsinteresting:

Seriously though, they make fake pee for people in this situation or he could have at least made some bullshit excuse for testing positive like he didn't know that brownie was special or something. But nooo he's just gotta go back to prison


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: zZZz]
    #22075200 - 08/11/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nothing wrong with what the op is trying to do, nor is it stupid; as long as u are aware of the consequences or even expecting them to occur.

What the op is doing is brave and I commend him.




I have dabbled in drug policy reform activism, and I am here to tell you this is 100% a stupid form of "activism" that will have no effect whatsoever on changing the laws in his state.


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    #22075204 - 08/11/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zZZz said:
Nothing wrong with what the op is trying to do, nor is it stupid; as long as u are aware of the consequences or even expecting them to occur.

What the op is doing is brave and I commend him.




I have dabbled in drug policy reform activism, and I am here to tell you this is 100% a stupid form of "activism" that will have no effect whatsoever on changing the laws in his state.




Thank you Mr. Convicted Criminal, your well thought out speech convinced me that pot should be legalized. I will now wave my magic gavel and it will be so.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22076602 - 08/11/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
:facepalm: Knowing the consequences is what makes it stupid. This isn't how you change things. This is MORE detrimental to the cause than it is helpful. WTF is this going to do aside from reinforce the court's idea that addicts will say whatever they have to, to justify their usage and they need to be protected from themselves? Or that drug users are just criminals who think they live outside the law and can do whatever they feel like doing.

Court/probation is not the place to grandstand about acceptance and legalization. Alcohol is legal, but it's usually something else you're not allowed to do while on probation. You aren't making any point by violating your probation just because you think it's fucked up, other than you're a criminal/fuck up who has no respect for law. That is LITERALLY the only thing a judge is going to see it as.

Everyone knows the rules of their probation, they accept those rules when they accept the probation. If you can't follow those rules, don't get the fucking probation. You're only shooting yourself in the foot. You can either follow the rules of your probation and live outside of a cell, or you can be put in jail where you have no choice but to obey the rules.




That's all bs tho. The judges are on a serious power trip and they need to be talked to like regular human beings from time to time. I love when peeps be cussing out the judges like "fuck you", yea it's probably not the best approach but it is like music to my ears.


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    #22076695 - 08/11/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zZZz said:
Nothing wrong with what the op is trying to do, nor is it stupid; as long as u are aware of the consequences or even expecting them to occur.

What the op is doing is brave and I commend him.




I have dabbled in drug policy reform activism, and I am here to tell you this is 100% a stupid form of "activism" that will have no effect whatsoever on changing the laws in his state.




it is activism in it's purest form

saying it will have no positive effect whatsoever is kinda pessimistic dont u think?..

who knows maybe the op just legalized marijuana


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: aler] * 3
    #22076923 - 08/11/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hai guys long time no see!!
I've recently been self medicating while on probation since I get super nauseous after eating the smallest amounts of food, so I saw the doctor and got prescribed Zofran but that didn't even help at all. So I thought the smart thing to do would be self medication. I smoked yesterday after eating a corn dog and I felt no nausea at all. It was pretty awesome being able to munch out without getting sick.

But anyways, I wanted to take a stand at my next probation review and tell the judge that there's nothing wrong with self medicating and that in the end as a judge, it's his job to settle the difference between right and wrong and not what the law says because the law is not always right.
I haven't been ua though in about 2 months but my plan is to take a stand if I ever get a dirty ua. I've also motivated a bunch of other people on probation to take a stand.

I was wondering what's your opinion on this and how do you think it'll go? I want to show the judge there's nothing wrong with it and I'll continue to do so.

Thanks! :wink:




It's going to go horribly.

I have chronic nausea and acid reflux, so it's near impossible for me to eat without an appetite stimulant or medication treating nausea, the meds prescribed were ineffective and had dangerous side effects, I have been using marijuana to treat these symptoms, as well as some sleep distubences and mild manic symptoms (they were going to diagnose me as bipolar but I'm never depressed, so it did not fit) regardless marijuana fixes these issues.

I have a medical license, and I live in a state where recreational marijuana is legal....

You can tell these people that it's a safe and effective medication, that not only does it work, that it's the only thing that works, that it's physically benign and one can not become physically dependant on it (most meds you can't just stop taking, you must taper, or sometimes you need meds to get off your meds, where as with marijuana you can stop whenever you want to with no ill effect...aside from minor irritability and minor sleep and appetite disturbance, some people don't even experience those effects when quitting) that it's a safe and natural plant that has been in use for thousands of years, and in all actuality nobody has the right to tell you not to us it, it's a harmless practice, a completely victimless act...every creature should have the right to alter their own consciousness, there's nothing wrong with it unless it becomes an addiction and it's not a moral issue, it's not that bad people use drugs, even animals alter their consciousness, there was a resort in Mexico where the monkeys would steal tourists alcohol, they did a study, some monkeys never drank, some drank moderately, and some were always drunk, it's 100% natural to alter your consciousness...like terence mckenna said :tmckenna: “If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.”

We should be able to tell these people "look, this is who we are, this is what we do, we are not hurting anybody, consciousness exploration is natural, and we shouldn't have to bow our heads and hide our stash, we should be able to be who we are with out fear of harassment or criminal prosecution...

...you can use logic, science, facts, studies, good arguments, even expert testimony from a medical doctor, and the court will STILL tell you that your wrong, that it's never ok to use weed, that you should take a pharmaceutical that was invented in the 1980s with known and unknown dangerous side effects before you should treat yourself with a safe natural remedy that's been in use for thousands of years. They will tell you that weed is not helping you, that it's bad for your health, and that your braking the law to use it, even in legal states they say "it's not federally legal", they will portray it as something with no practical use in the modern world...

Honestly I'm sick of it, I want to dedicate my life to fighting for psychoactive freedom, in the case of marijuana and the psychedelics the laws are unjust, schedule I means ·No medical value (but all the psychedelics have been used as medicines by shamans for thousands of years, and have been shown to have therapeutic value in modern times.) ·Highly addictive (the psychedelics are not addictive, you can not become dependant, these compounds seem to brake destructive compulsive behaviors not form them) ·Dangerous (nobody haw died from the classic psychedelics, the handfull of deaths attributed to psychedelics are murky, and involved other factors...
As senior LSD researcher Dr. David Nichols, Distinguished Chair of Pharmacology at Purdue University and head of one of the world's top LSD research labs, stated in his 2004 review article on hallucinogens, "There is no evidence that any of the hallucinogens, even the very powerful semisynthetic LSD, causes damage to any human body organ. [...] Hallucinogens do not cause life-threatening changes in cardiovascular, renal, or hepatic function because they have little or no affinity for the biological receptors and targets that mediate vital vegetative functions.-erowid.
so deaths from psychedelics are rare to non-existant.

There is no reason for psychedelics to be schedule one.

They can't make being a non-Christian who uses plant entheogens, or being an artist, or being anti-war, or being counter-culture illegal, so they make their harmless customs (psychedelics) illegal.

Trust me though, none of this makes a difference to them, they will make it seem like what your doing is wrong no matter how much it helps you or how harmless it is...you can't talk reason into these people, they refuse to listen, they can't accept that plant medicines are plant medicines and not dangerous drugs, their too ignorant to differentiate a dangerous drug from a harmless one...the head of the DEA refused to admit that marijuana is safer than methamphetamine when questioned, because it would make them look like the hypocrites they are, and ignorant people believe the lies they tell, and the courts will always back the DEA no matter ho absurd.


This is what we are dealing with...

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22077397 - 08/11/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think you've got a great shot at this. Tell the judge too that your like all your parking tickets taken care of, you want to be able to carry a gun on your person, and you want to be able to drink on an elementary school playground any time you damn well please.

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Kongo69]
    #22134219 - 08/24/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Still no fucking update. If you pussied out, let us know. We all waited like a month and a half for answers :crankey:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22134286 - 08/24/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

More  self medicating,  :shake:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22055214 and

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22087541
I hope op didn't do something really stupid...:confused:
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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: vinsue]
    #22134292 - 08/24/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm:

Maybe it was all a troll.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: vinsue]
    #22134470 - 08/24/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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More  self medicating,  :shake:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22055214 and

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22087541
I hope op didn't do something really stupid...:confused:
:talkingtowall: . . . :peace:




Lol Op seems like a real piece.
Hope he pulls his head out his ass.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Mental Taco]
    #22539431 - 11/17/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Bumping for my fucking update already :crankey:


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shLong]
    #22539435 - 11/17/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: shLong]
    #22539442 - 11/17/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We're never getting one. :sad:

Either common sense finally won out, or the new asshole the judge ripped them is so massive and embarrassing they refuse to talk about it.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22539448 - 11/17/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm kind of wondering how this went over but at the same time I'm relatively sure I know what went down.


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Re: Telling the judge I'm going to continue self medicating. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22539454 - 11/17/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

rbalzer said:
hasn't logged on for 3 months :rofl:



They had came back after the court date was supposed to of happened. When I first bumped the thread, they hadn't been seen in a couple of days and later that night they were "seen". If they're gone for 3 months because they're in jail, I dunno that it's really related to this plan.

:confused: The dates aren't matching up. I know I remember that happening though.. At least I think I do.. Maybe after long enough it doesn't go by your last actual history on the site and just reverts to your last post?


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (11/17/15 09:26 PM)


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