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Re: The perfect drug [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21891845 - 07/03/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There's 2 different kinds of nausea that cactus causes- there's the "holy shit there's something really nasty that I just drank" nausea, which really only your state of mind can control, and then there's the actual pharmacological nausea caused by mescaline, which lemon oil does control.


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21892093 - 07/03/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I only sincerely genuinely wish that were the case for me personally, for me personally it's the exact opposite, the very smell and taste of lemon oil can partially negate the gag reflex because it's so awesome lol. But I feel that it doesn't alleviate any kind of actual physiological stomach based nausea in my experience, to any degree other than inhibiting the gag reflex and physiological nausea. Maybe if I took like 50 drops instead of 10, idk. but nothing other than not having any food or liquid in my stomach can reduce cacti nausea IME. pepto bismol, chocolate, honey, lemon oil etc do nothing other than placebo

Scratch that. Diphenhydramine also works. But at the cost of making the trip weird and non euphoric..


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21892106 - 07/03/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

MXE n LSD
Both man made
Which is why it gives me hope
The posssibiltys :wink:


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21892114 - 07/03/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I only sincerely genuinely wish that were the case for me personally, for me personally it's the exact opposite, the very smell and taste of lemon oil can partially negate the gag reflex because it's so awesome lol. But I feel that it doesn't alleviate any kind of actual physiological stomach based nausea in my experience, to any degree other than inhibiting the gag reflex and physiological nausea. Maybe if I took like 50 drops instead of 10, idk. but nothing other than not having any food or liquid in my stomach can reduce cacti nausea IME. pepto bismol, chocolate, honey, lemon oil etc do nothing other than placebo

Scratch that. Diphenhydramine also works. But at the cost of making the trip weird and non euphoric..



Weird. I actually really don't like the taste of the lemon oil, but I find it very effective for controlling the nausea.


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21892211 - 07/03/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Tried any anti-nausea medication with it?





I have not. I think I will give it a try next time. I just hope it doesn't take away from the experience at all, mentally or physically



TMJ take 5 drops of lemon essential oil about 20 minutes before dosing mescaline or cactus.



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0:00 5 drops of lemon essential oil in juice
0:20 about one foot of good cactus brewed into tea
1:00 3 hits of good LSD and a ganja edible
Ganja as needed or desired throughout
5:00-6:00 30 mg 4 aco dmt and perhaps another edible.

But maybe not at a party



Looks like quite the party lol

I have no expereicne with mescaline. is there any reason you did not extract the mescal?


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: topdog82]
    #21892221 - 07/03/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well for one thing because I'm lazy/busy and am not comfortable dealing with chemicals an stuff. Also because a full spectrum cactus brew has other goodies in it that add to the experience.


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21892314 - 07/03/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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well for one thing because I'm lazy/busy and am not comfortable dealing with chemicals an stuff. Also because a full spectrum cactus brew has other goodies in it that add to the experience.



true. I guess if I ever grow cacti as planned, I will consume the whole plant


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: topdog82]
    #21892409 - 07/03/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know how people get such crazy tolerances to ketamine.  When i had a good connect i did maybe like 200g in 6 months and didn't notice any sort of tolerance. I don't like to hole though, i feel like that probably plays an important role in tolerance.

I would only hole when i was already so high, I couldn't tell time, and I would, do a rail, 5 minutes would pass and I thought it was like an hour, then i'd do another rail because i still didn't feel high.  Whoops.  I did that on accident like several times a week.


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: teamkiller]
    #21895239 - 07/04/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ketamine isn't worth it really unless you actually hole :tongue:.


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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Cepheus]
    #21899277 - 07/05/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno at higher dosages its just too like, psychedelic and chaotic for me.  It loses any sort of meaning and I just get lost in cut up gibberish salad that's heavily egocentric/self referential.  I like DXM much better for fully immersive experiences.  I remember the last time I did to much, i was just seeing like, these stripes all over everything.  The wild woobs i thought their name was.  And like there was this whole stripe world and I could hear woob tree beings off in the distance or something, but I wasn't knocked out very much I was crawling around my house trying to get away from certain woobs. Oh yeah then i 100% realistically experienced a dark moment from my past from another person's point of view and started crying, i forgot about that. that was weird.

But yeah that story illustrates what I don't like about K at higher dosages.  All that stuff has me in it. i'm like feeling feelings and relating to whats happening.  High dose DXM I'm more or less not myself.  There is no self, and the stuff I experience is too sci-fi to relate to  my human self in any way.  Don't feel nothing, don't think nothing, just fly around inside molecules or whatever effectively unconscious from an outside perspective.


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