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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Cepheus]
#21864629 - 06/27/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The perfect drug for me is Mescaline to start out with and on the comedown Methoxetamine.
M&M.
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Zombi3 said: The perfect drug is AL-LAD if you ask me
Either that or mushrooms
I don't know how anyone can like AL-LAD more than LSD.
oh well, different strokes for different folks, ay?
IMO, there is no perfect drug.
If mushrooms didn't have such a harsh comeup that makes you so anxious and stressed + it lasted as long as LSD, then mushrooms would "the perfect drug"
If LSD was 100% natural and had more of an "alien/hyperspace" hallucinatory aspect to it, it would truly be perfect. Although its pretty damn close as we speak...
then we go to ol' DMT...oh man..where do i fucking start. Can you even start when discussing DMT? 
anyway...
DMT would be the perfect drug...if i actually considered it a drug. I don't men to sound like the cliché hippy or shroomery n00b when i say that, either. I don't say things like "oh weed aint no drug maaan" because it fucking is. plain and simple. Bur DMT is different...it just doesn't feel like a drug. It feels like some sort of "device" or some "mind-chemical enhancement organizer" like its organizing the chemicals in my head in order to see the world how it is..or just in another perspective. Whatever.
so anyway, ill bite. DMT being a drug..id say its way too short...its way too powerful and just whacky...its everything.
So yeah...DMT its just not a drug to me...its way too short...its way too powerful and just whacky...its TOO natural...its everything.
Take more LSD if you haven't seen aliens/ufos yet ?
400ug+ (and real 400ug, often you can eat 8 hits and it's still only 300ug)
If you take enough LSD, anything can happen, anything you see in lucid dreams ufos,aliens,entities in mid air , out of body, hyperspace, teleport, linear combination,many places at once, being many people at once, living many lives at once
Hell you may even live a life as an alien simultaneously with this one if you take enough
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Cepheus]
#21864646 - 06/27/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LSD DMT Mescaline
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Asante]
#21864656 - 06/27/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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mescaline would the perfect drug but the nausea is extreme.
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Shroomism]
#21864697 - 06/27/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The perfect drug for me is in my mind, lucid dreams (when in the OBE state floating around)
You can fly It feels 100% real, more real than "this reality" You get 100% awareness and clarity , you control your mind You can go anywhere You feel light You can do anything - jump off buildings, fly over green grassfields, fly to any city you like, teleport, fly through walls sometimes - jumping off buildings feels 100% real You cannot get hurt There is no downside You will remember it the rest of your life, even just 1 trip
It lasts maybe 3 hours but feels like eternity
It is the best feeling in the world, better than sex , feels much better
More rewarding than sex or any drug - the feeling you get after it
called "lucid dreaming" , it's free, it's in everyones minds, anyone can learn it www.ld4all.nl , www.dreamviews.com
next after lucid dreaming would be alcohol without nausea, hangover/headache, constipation, becoming fat and becoming dumb because it destroys the braincells
I mean it's great socially, but it makes you dumb and fat easily , it kills braincells
LSD doesn't kill braincells, but it has downtime. Lucid dream has no such downside normally - so is safer than LSD mentally it seems , there is no recovery period after a deep trip normally. Quickly forgotten.
So 1. OBE(lucid dreaming out of body/astral projection), 2. alcohol without side effects, 3. LSD because it has no bodyload and gets you as far as you would like - but it has months side effects when you go high dose
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dreams are not drugs.
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Bill_Oreilly said: dreams are not drugs.
It produces a drug effect in the brain, new alternate reality
Just like LSD, DMT, Salvia, Shrooms, and 1000 other drugs
New brainwaves, so I believe any trance state is equally interesting to experiment on, and those with fewest side effects are worth most
There is also shamanic journeying with drums, then you can time travel too/visit places in your mind, the mind is unlimited
Only imagination is the limit, so the mind is its own best drug
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Bill_Oreilly said: mescaline would the perfect drug but the nausea is extreme.
If you extract to down to mesc hcl or similar, the nausea is greatly reduced. But yeah its not exactly the full experience of the whole cacti with every single alkaloid.
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A good drug is one that brings you understanding
A bad drug is one that dumbs you down, and often leaves you dumbed down
good drugs: meditation lucid dreaming / out of body nature dreaming w. dream journal
bad drugs: pills weed to some extent - just like a regular "drug" alcohol , kills liver and braincells
so the perfect drug is a good drug, an imperfect drug is a bad drug
but then there is also the issue of weed being able to heal illnesses, thus making it not just a bad drug
but a useable drug
but I only believe it can heal if used very responsibly, else it also just dumbs you down again
thus there are very few good drugs...
- and last there are 'neutral drugs' , that may not dumb you down (LSD , shrooms etc.) - but which have months lasting effects on the mind that you need to heal afterwards, so they don't just give you good effects, but they can help
Most people's definition of "the perfect drug", is often a "bad drug" - because they are not aware of the negative consequences, they are happily fooled by their drug A perfect drug is a drug without side effects
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Cepheus]
#21864769 - 06/27/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That sounds like a messy night but I've had worse. I don't typically associate large drug and booze combos with an awesome time, but it's always at the very least interesting.
Oxy is the perfect drug, it'd be even better if it was 1/10th the price and thrice the duration.
I'm going to a festival next weekend so this is relevant, my 3 day schedule will be something like: Day 1: Arrive early, oxy by day and booze by night Day 2: mellow out in the morning and then do 4FA in the late afternoon, throw oxy on top of it. Day 3: weed, and a light benzo to turn the slight oxy cravings away.
I might trip but if I do it'd only be like 2 grams of shrooms.
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ModestMouse said: That sounds like a messy night but I've had worse. I don't typically associate large drug and booze combos with an awesome time, but it's always at the very least interesting.
Oxy is the perfect drug, it'd be even better if it was 1/10th the price and thrice the duration.
I'm going to a festival next weekend so this is relevant, my 3 day schedule will be something like: Day 1: Arrive early, oxy by day and booze by night Day 2: mellow out in the morning and then do 4FA in the late afternoon, throw oxy on top of it. Day 3: weed, and a light benzo to turn the slight oxy cravings away.
I might trip but if I do it'd only be like 2 grams of shrooms.
haha what the fuck, ur gonna go to a fest to do oxies and fake speed?
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Sheekle]
#21864787 - 06/27/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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have you tried 4FA? It's a wonderful empathogen.
I don't always have oxy on hand but it's coming through town for the weekend so I'm going to use it. Take your judgement somewhere else sheek.
That schedule is one of the most sure fire ways to have at least a decent time IMO. No massive psychedelic doses to freak out on, dissolved inhibitions, enhanced social energy.
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ModestMouse said: have you tried 4FA? It's a wonderful empathogen.
I don't always have oxy on hand but it's coming through town for the weekend so I'm going to use it. Take your judgement somewhere else sheek
Many speak about 4FA, how is 4FA compared to MDMA - with regular dosages?
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what fest are u goin to?
i think the next one im hittin up isn't till the end of july
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It's like MDA but cloudier and about 1/2 as potent by weight.
@sheek - The Heron in NY. Very good mix of people young and old, awesome vibes, and great land. The music is not my forte but it's good enough to groove to.
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Sheekle]
#21864814 - 06/27/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ketamine is pretty much the perfect drug, if it didn't make you talk and act like a retard as it gets interesting.
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ketamine would be cool if it 1. wasn't terrible for ur bladder 2. didn't cause nausea and double-vision if i do it more than twice in a night and 3. wasn't expensive
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Sheekle]
#21864823 - 06/27/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the nausea fucking kills me.
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ModestMouse said: It's like MDA but cloudier and about 1/2 as potent by weight.
@sheek - The Heron in NY. Very good mix of people young and old, awesome vibes, and great land. The music is not my forte but it's good enough to groove to.
word, i looked it up nd don't recognize any of the bands. one of them is playin some Dead stuff tho so that's kewl, have fun should ba gr8 time
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Re: The perfect drug [Re: Sheekle]
#21864859 - 06/27/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mdma is my favorite, but who wants to do the same thing all the time? Its best to switch it up and use a variety of substances or they lose their magic. Op, combining all those drugs sounds like a bad idea to me. It doesn't seem like a safe or healthy way to enjoy yourself.
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