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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21875306 - 06/29/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What about all the people in this thread who actually know people raised by same sex couples? :lol:

How many gay people do you know who ended up that way becouse of gay parents?

Seems like this thread has seen at least 5-10 people say they know straight kids from gay parents yet not one claim of the opposite...

Also, if parents tell their kids NOT to smoke it is even more likely they will... So that analogy is pretty moot too.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21875310 - 06/29/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never been involved with or talked about my parents sex life with them, I'm sure gay parents will be the same way.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21875328 - 06/29/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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One of my friend's posted this on his facebook yesterday. I nearly busted my ass crying with laughter when I seen it.


"In 5 years your kids favorite superhero will be a Transgender with a cape on..

A flag cape. Society is really something else, lmao. ‪#‎moonwalking‬ ‪#‎sensitive‬."

It really is funny. I don't support gay marriage or any of it period. I'll tell you why. I am very comfortable with my sexuality but I dont appreciate guy gays hitting on me every single where that I go. I know i'm good looking but man this world is fucked up. It's unnatural. Reproduction cannot occur with two of the same sex. As I see it, they will all be killed off in 10 years just because they couldn't produce blood offspring. Forget adopting kids, I'm talking ABOUT YOUR BLOOD. Be honest with yourself. Most people lie to themselves every single day. Make excuses.




Your whole argument doesn't make sense. It literally only sums up to "I don't like it, so it shouldn't be a thing" ..Which is fine, you're entitled to and have the right to think that way if you want to, but everything else you said just doesn't make sense and isn't an argument for anything.

Homosexuals have been around for thousands of years, I highly doubt they'll go away just because they can't have kids, gay people don't seem to come from other gay people, in fact most gay people I've met and know, have straight parents.

You say it's unnatural, which also makes zero sense, it could be in their genes, and if it's part of their genetic make up, then clearly it's natural, and then must have a reason for existing, regardless of whether we know what that reason is or not. Apart from that, wtf do humans do that is natural. Drinking out of bottles, using machines, using sunscreen, flying planes, take medicine, basically every single thing humans do isn't "natural", that's just a failed argument people use as their reason to dislike people who don't live the same way they do.

All fetuses start off as female, it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say that some men for example retain female hormones or genes that make them prone to be attracted to the same gender.

"It's unnatural. Reproduction cannot occur with two of the same sex."

People who aren't contributing to over population and all the problems that come with it don't seem like a problem to me. If anything it seems like a solution :shrug: For all we know if a gay gene exist, maybe that's why.

Either way, I'm sure I won't change your mind, and it's your mind to do with as you please, but you shouldn't stop people from living THEIR lives just because of something YOU disagree with, unless what they're doing has a direct effect on you.




Listen here. I started a medication before that made me homosexual. I had the best orgasms ever playing with my asshole. And then I Stopped the medication and all the urges went away. I don't want to hear that genetic bullshit because i've lived it, done it, goodbye.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: JustForToday]
    #21875337 - 06/29/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Was it a hormone medication? What medication was it.

If you fingered your butthole and found it pleasurable, it's because you like your asshole being played with, the medication just gives you something to blame for these thoughts you have that you think are wrong.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21875345 - 06/29/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wrong again, my parents always ate veggies.

They were also home before dark everynight, which is how they knew I wasn't home, duh.

They didn't smoke or drink even though I do.

They never fought and we're always pretty nice to my siblings.

And the house was always super clean except my room.

There were a ton of things my parents did that I didn't do, and vice versa. My parents played bingo and watched law and order all the time but you won't catch me doing that.

Does your kid hear you have sex every night? Did you always hear your parents banging as a kid? Is this what's it's really about?

Do you seriously think your parents could get you to suck a dick? Seriously?


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21875361 - 06/29/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Was it a hormone medication? What medication was it.

If you fingered your butthole and found it pleasurable, it's because you like your asshole being played with, the medication just gives you something to blame for these thoughts you have that you think are wrong.




The medication is called remeron. I should sue that fucking company.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: JustForToday]
    #21875371 - 06/29/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Did you crave dick, or were you just playing with your butthole? I know a few straight guys who have messed with their butt. I mean guys do have a G-spot in there.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21875390 - 06/29/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Wrong again, my parents always ate veggies.

They were also home before dark everynight, which is how they knew I wasn't home, duh.

They didn't smoke or drink even though I do.

They never fought and we're always pretty nice to my siblings.

And the house was always super clean except my room.

There were a ton of things my parents did that I didn't do, and vice versa. My parents played bingo and watched law and order all the time but you won't catch me doing that.

Does your kid hear you have sex every night? Did you always hear your parents banging as a kid? Is this what's it's really about?

Do you seriously think your parents could get you to suck a dick? Seriously?






Just because YOU weren't influence by your parents doesn't mean everyone is that way. Your experience isn't the end all be all of accurate information.


How can you honestly sit here and tell me if a kid had gay parents, it wouldn't rub off on him somehow?

how do we know these gay parents are not directly influencing the child to be gay? Im sure many would, just like how Christians inspire their children to be a Christian as well. ESPECIALLY at the young age where they are extremely vulnerable.

I have done a lot of thinking about this, and even though I am willing to be converted, im not sure if it will happen. No matter what argument you lay out I WILL have a rebuttal. So we mind as well just stop now.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Achillita]
    #21875393 - 06/29/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

no the way you are raised has a large impact on what you will become.  Therefor, Sexual preferences influence things just as much as drug addicts, we've been over this already.  What MAKES a child molester?  is he born that way just like a gay person in your mind?  Are drug addicts born drug addicts?  Are the rich always born rich?  Are assholes born assholes?

Its both, if your parents drank alot, your brain might be fucked up, so then you make shitty decisions.  Maybe they drank just a little and so you make just a few shitty decisions.

Maybe you make a few shitty decisions and then your environment around you presents you with nothing but shitty options, or maybe no shitty options.

The point is, you don't know who the child molester is.  What you do know, is how to profile.  We were all born with this ability to some extent.  Its given to us for protection, to be afraid, to avoid, to whatever....its there for us as a tool.

So, we don't know how a person was born, or how they were raised, but what we can do is determine how children are raised.  What we can do is use profiling and socology to determine what would lead to a better upbringing.  Someone who is so afraid of fitting in so they switch teams to do it, or so seeking of their parents approval of being different, or perhaps so against their parents and their rules that they decide to go gay out of rebellion, someone who writes off heterosexuality, then turns around and wants kids that it gives.

The point is, through profiling, you can filter out what creates undesirable traits to a great extent.  So why would you want to start them off in a household that leaves them open to so many potential problems.  A Certain mindset regarding sex can easily increase your chances of doing certain things, its like the butterfly effect.  All the bad things in the world come from somewhere, alot is learned, alot is through choices presented, and thoughts around choices made near us, ect ect ect...

Better parents in general is always a great idea, but so is balance, and a gay family isn't balanced.  Not having a mother, or a father.  They will grow up confused of gender roles, confused about what a mother is, what a father is.

In our heterosexual familys, the mother is nurturing is most instances, and the father is the authority.  Typically a father is going to teach you about certain things for men, and a women teaches a women things.  The point im trying to get across is all thats gone, you might still get those things, but the gender roles are gone.  So your going to have a completely different idea what women are, what men are, you'll always have missed out on one of those figures.  So you'll go you're entire life not knowing one of those feelings that we all had growing up, or most of us.

Its like if you had a mother who died before you were old enough to remember her, how bad does that suck?  or a father?  you missed out on so much, thats a gay family, you get 2 parents sure, but you're missing the connection to that separate gender identity.

at least thats how i would have felt, id have felt like i missed out on half the feeling of being a child, half the feeling of being loved.  The love for my mother is a completely different feeling than i have for my father, its 2 separate things.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Achillita]
    #21875396 - 06/29/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Enjoying anal is not the same as being gay


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #21875412 - 06/29/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is your entire argument based on the assumption that all gay people want their kids to also be gay? I've never heard a gay person actually say that being gay was a conscious choice. It's not like acquiring the taste for black coffee despite it tasting gross the first time you try it.

So based on the more correct assumption that gay people don't see being gay as a choice, and something that has likely made their lives significantly more challenging, force their kids to be gay knowing it's not a choice one can make?


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21875429 - 06/29/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's like saying that it's not okay if a parent likes blue, because you think only good kids can be raised if the parent's favorite color is red.

For most kids, actual sexuality doesn't come until puberty. Before then, it's just fantasy about marriage or having a girlfriend or something like that. It's not really relevant in a child until they hit puberty. And by that time, they most certainly will know what gender they find attractive.

It's just someones personal preference. Now if they were forcing their kids to be gay, then yeah not okay. Just like it isn't okay for parents to force their children to be straight.

The whole argument is just biased and hateful.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21875431 - 06/29/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Being gay is not a choice, everybody should know that by now.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21875433 - 06/29/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Is your entire argument based on the assumption that all gay people want their kids to also be gay? I've never heard a gay person actually say that being gay was a conscious choice. It's not like acquiring the taste for black coffee despite it tasting gross the first time you try it.

So based on the more correct assumption that gay people don't see being gay as a choice, and something that has likely made their lives significantly more challenging, force their kids to be gay knowing it's not a choice one can make?




ill answer that with a point i made earlier, straights don't go around telling people they are raising their children straight either.  Its just assumed, it is an assumption.  A gay person when the subject is brought up, gay parent i mean, is more likely to tell the child that there's nothing wrong with being gay and its their choice.  Thats wrong, because gays say they are born that way, its not a choice, they shouldn't need to be told its ok, they should automatically know being gay is ok because gay is good and doesn't make them feel 'different' right?????  nope.  for most gay IS a choice, for most starting out gay is very difficult, with lots of rejection, and poorly treated.

So why would a good parent knowingly encourage that route to their children?


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21875441 - 06/29/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They don't. You explained your reasoning for making a certain (incorrect) assumption and are now holding others responsible for your own erroneous assumption.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21875442 - 06/29/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They don't. You explained your reasoning for making a certain (incorrect) assumption and are now holding others responsible for your own erroneous assumption.




They do just like straights do, everytime, and everyone? no.  but everyone should know that by now


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21875444 - 06/29/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Is your entire argument based on the assumption that all gay people want their kids to also be gay? I've never heard a gay person actually say that being gay was a conscious choice. It's not like acquiring the taste for black coffee despite it tasting gross the first time you try it.

So based on the more correct assumption that gay people don't see being gay as a choice, and something that has likely made their lives significantly more challenging, force their kids to be gay knowing it's not a choice one can make?





no, my whole argument is based on a lot of things. Read through the thread because I really don't want to keep beating this dead horse.


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21875451 - 06/29/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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daytripper05 said:
Is your entire argument based on the assumption that all gay people want their kids to also be gay? I've never heard a gay person actually say that being gay was a conscious choice. It's not like acquiring the taste for black coffee despite it tasting gross the first time you try it.

So based on the more correct assumption that gay people don't see being gay as a choice, and something that has likely made their lives significantly more challenging, force their kids to be gay knowing it's not a choice one can make?




ill answer that with a point i made earlier, straights don't go around telling people they are raising their children straight either.  Its just assumed, it is an assumption.  A gay person when the subject is brought up, gay parent i mean, is more likely to tell the child that there's nothing wrong with being gay and its their choice.  Thats wrong, because gays say they are born that way, its not a choice, they shouldn't need to be told its ok, they should automatically know being gay is ok because gay is good and doesn't make them feel 'different' right?????  nope.  for most gay IS a choice, for most starting out gay is very difficult, with lots of rejection, and poorly treated.

So why would a good parent knowingly encourage that route to their children?




such a great point..


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
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It's just a shot away..


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21875452 - 06/29/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Being gay isn't a choice. It's decided by a number of factors that scientists have yet discovered. But it's clear that people aren't waking up and saying "You know what would be great in my life? Being hated, bashed, and discriminated against."

Being different is completely okay. By saying it's okay to be gay, it doesn't mean they're saying that they want you to be gay. They're saying they aren't gonna hate you for it. They're gonna ccept you for who you are.


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Re: Some kid on facebook just called me retarded...is he right? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21875461 - 06/29/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Being gay is not a choice, everybody should know that by now.





Is being bi-sexual a choice?


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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