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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21872808 - 06/29/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What they need is a SNS subforum dedicated to 'Other News Discussion.' It would fix a lot I think, and probably wouldn't need to be moderated too heavily.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: larry.fisherman] 2
#21872815 - 06/29/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: What they need is a SNS subforum dedicated to 'Other News Discussion.' It would fix a lot I think, and probably wouldn't need to be moderated too heavily.
The Pub is the only sub that gets legit traffic.
There's like 4 people who post in Political Discussion, I would imagine a news sub would be the same.
Also, OTD blows.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Bassfreak] 3
#21872876 - 06/29/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said:
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21873819 - 06/29/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Fuck rule 4.
Just allow flaming in the pub, and all the shit posters and thin skinned neckbeards will eventually kill themselves.
Bing bang boom.
I could give a shit about flaming. Go for it...I don't like being restricted either.
Rule 4 isn't about that. It's about not posting threads with no content to discuss.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Asante] 1
#21874556 - 06/29/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: Jesus Christ Dys you misinformation agent you. I understand you are upset with me but you are making a case for people NOT becoming shroomery sponsors.
Didnt I clearly hint I have enough MXE to last me decades and that I no longer buy it? To suggest I abuse community funds for, its obscene.
I never, NEVER wanted to steal an artifact from a museum or church. NEVER. Thats a bunch of bullshit said to slander my name. I have never said that and I have denied it when it was said about me.
I love you as a person but these attacks on the shroomery and my person have got to stop. Lovingly, respectfully, get your head out of your ass man, what you are doing here is very harmful to the cxommunity and very insulting towards me.
I turned the other cheek so much now I will slap yours instead. Stop crucifying me. Get off the hate train.
He isn't on a hate train. And neither am I. I have no idea what he is talking about in re the museums or the money but we both think you have gone completely off the rails and are, in the words of Randle McMurphy, bull goose loony. Far more than before. I actually care for you like I do for Viva and Crystal. Viva is sick and I don't believe for one second that she fell in the shower and Crystal fucked up a good thing over drugs. The vast majority of us think you have lost your mind from this shit. My personal opinion is that you reporting that you have a huge stash of MXE is not a good thing for you.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#21874701 - 06/29/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Burke Dennings said: Also: I agree with dys. When you buy a supporter account, you're putting mxe in Asante's asshole. Think before you buy, people.
I bought zappaisgod a year or something. He said the same exact thing. He thanked me for putting money in Asante's pocket; so basically paying for his drug and madman rambling threads.
But then again it's just psychosis because he's so far away from being grounded in reality. I've seen such a drastic change in him and it's disconcerting. His downward spiral makes me fear for his mental health and well-being. Physically he's been making drastic improvements in his life with health, diet and exercise which is A+. However, like many people who get deep in disassociative psychosis, it's clear that he needs help because he's running away from something, like death or a deep personal issue. I truly wish the best for him, and all of you guys.
I hate to be Mr. Intervention over here but, cmon big guy, come back down to earth it's not so bad here.
1) I'm not trying to get people stop supporting the site. Delusions of grandeur don't make servers work or handle bandwidth fees. It was a play off of what Burke said which is why I quoted him. By all means, people who don't contribute to cultivation or trip reports or harm reduction should throw money towards the site.
2) I'm sorry I didn't get through your 30 page thread in which your OP said God told you to go to that church and take the religious item.
3) They're not attacks on you. Don't play the victim. I'm sorry that the sad truth of it all is you're a drug addict suffering psychosis and using shroomery.org as a platform for your delusions.
4) I'm sorry you were insulted by the harsh reality of these drugs ruining your mental state.
5) As much as it pains me to say this, zappa is right, you need to stop doing this drug it's turned you into a monster. You're losing it / have lost it.
6) Please explain to me how the above part in bold is me attacking you or causing hostility. Or did you not read it?
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zappaisgod said: He isn't on a hate train. And neither am I. I have no idea what he is talking about in re the museums or the money but we both think you have gone completely off the rails and are, in the words of Randle McMurphy, bull goose loony. Far more than before. I actually care for you like I do for Viva and Crystal. Viva is sick and I don't believe for one second that she fell in the shower and Crystal fucked up a good thing over drugs. The vast majority of us think you have lost your mind from this shit. My personal opinion is that you reporting that you have a huge stash of MXE is not a good thing for you.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: 1234go] 1
#21874779 - 06/29/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1234go said:
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Bassfreak said:
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Some  some manchilds some walking talking fetuses
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: SunnyD] 1
#21874806 - 06/29/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Walking talking fetuses lol
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: zappaisgod] 5
#21874809 - 06/29/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now that you mention it, viva & Asante are sick in really similar ways. One has Munchausen's, the other has delusions of grandeur. Both crippling mental illnesses that work to isolate the sufferer from people who once may have cared about them. I completely respect you for standing by both viva & Asante through these self-inflicted conditions. I don't have the patience for it and by now really don't care what happens to either of them, but it's good that they can turn to you for validation and comfort. You're a good dude zig.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#21874923 - 06/29/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: Jesus Christ Dys you misinformation agent you. I understand you are upset with me but you are making a case for people NOT becoming shroomery sponsors.
Didnt I clearly hint I have enough MXE to last me decades and that I no longer buy it? To suggest I abuse community funds for, its obscene.
I never, NEVER wanted to steal an artifact from a museum or church. NEVER. Thats a bunch of bullshit said to slander my name. I have never said that and I have denied it when it was said about me.
I love you as a person but these attacks on the shroomery and my person have got to stop. Lovingly, respectfully, get your head out of your ass man, what you are doing here is very harmful to the cxommunity and very insulting towards me.
I turned the other cheek so much now I will slap yours instead. Stop crucifying me. Get off the hate train.
He isn't on a hate train. And neither am I. I have no idea what he is talking about in re the museums or the money but we both think you have gone completely off the rails and are, in the words of Randle McMurphy, bull goose loony. Far more than before. I actually care for you like I do for Viva and Crystal. Viva is sick and I don't believe for one second that she fell in the shower and Crystal fucked up a good thing over drugs. The vast majority of us think you have lost your mind from this shit. My personal opinion is that you reporting that you have a huge stash of MXE is not a good thing for you.
This is good caring from you and Burke. I value the opinions of members who care for other members. Good thing for the other good members who also feel sorrow for the suffering of others:
Treant, soulidarity and Magenta. Oh and bassfreak. And zombi3
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Burke Dennings] 1
#21874950 - 06/29/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you. I actually try to be in spite of the fact that I self identify as an asshole. Dys sent me a lovely father's day card with a very touching personal note even though I'm not his father. It was very sweet.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#21875120 - 06/29/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dys is a pretty good guy too.
It is nice, this environment of caring. I have a tough time with it sometimes, mustering up the give-a-fuck for my fellow posters. I guess I should try harder, remember what other (awesome, amazing) people have done for me, try to apply their outlook to my own life. I'm probably a bigger asshole than you are, though. It's tough.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Burke Dennings] 5
#21875559 - 06/29/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for your kind words. I do my best to be a kind and caring man. I've offered members here a place to stay, offered jobs to peole, opened up my home and have gone out on daytrips with people on my dime because they were hard up. I even lend a listening ear to people I don't even like.
Being manic bipolar is hard, and I try to be a good guy and do the best I can, sometimes it gets the better of me which is extremely difficult. I've got a big heart, I'm generous and kind and polite, but when my head turns upside down and someone provokes me I get upset.
As for the Pub, I've been asking people more questions about themselves to stimulate conversation, or cheering them on, congratulating them on new jobs and relationships, hiding racism/cop/troll threads that get out of hand so I dont get rustled and say things I regret. It still happens, but I'd like to think the good outweighs the bad.
I've grown closer to more people in the past 2 years than the past 5. Life has been hard. But goes to show there are still amazing people who will accept me for who I am and that's what I love about this community.
I mean, I try. That's all anyone can ask for getting the Pub more cheery. You even see zappa sending kind words to Asante despite their long history.
People come in here stoned and tripping. A few weeks ago I was having a hard come up and came here for vibes. One guy said he hoped I drowned in the shark tank. Is that really necessary? The other part of the thread was A+, but like most things in life it's that one asshole that ruins it for others.
And look at devon420's threads. Dude got straight up bullied and another poster took it upon himself to berate and mock the guy in two other threads. I have no patience for bullies, especially the ones that were never good at it anyway, and would shut their mouths if they got an asskicking.
Coming in here baked or spun and being able to just chill out with people is great. You're around like-minded people who understand these types of things. You don't get that a lot offsite, except festivals and gatherings.
There are amazing posters. There's all sorts of interesting things I'd never otherwise see. Music I'd never hear of. Art. Poetry. A deeper understanding of the younger generations registering here.
I love this place. I've been throwing them cash since I was in graduate school since I stopped contributing to the boards as much as I used to. Some people smoke an eighth a day, but can't snag a supporter account to at least cover part of their bandwidth? Or the boatloads of work geo does to keep this place afloat financially. He does a great job, especially if Ythan was quoted as saying this place can stay alive indefinitely.
It's pleasant to see a lot more respect for people from other countries, cultures and races. The love is there, just not as much as it should be, or it's misplaced. Tone and inflection are integral parts of communication and that fails to convey true meanings to posts. You can read mine earlier in this thread as an attack on Asante, or step back and read it in a tone that shows someone who genuinely cares.
There are two simple steps to make the Pub a better place. One is to be the change you want to see, the other would be moving threads to the Romp where people can speak their minds and not get banned. Why lock/dump something that could take off in a forum with relaxed rules.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#21875593 - 06/29/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Asante said: Jesus Christ Dys you misinformation agent you. I understand you are upset with me but you are making a case for people NOT becoming shroomery sponsors.
Didnt I clearly hint I have enough MXE to last me decades and that I no longer buy it? To suggest I abuse community funds for, its obscene.
I never, NEVER wanted to steal an artifact from a museum or church. NEVER. Thats a bunch of bullshit said to slander my name. I have never said that and I have denied it when it was said about me.
I love you as a person but these attacks on the shroomery and my person have got to stop. Lovingly, respectfully, get your head out of your ass man, what you are doing here is very harmful to the cxommunity and very insulting towards me.
I turned the other cheek so much now I will slap yours instead. Stop crucifying me. Get off the hate train.
The vast majority of us think you have lost your mind from this shit.

I don't have any emotional attachment to Asante, for better or worse, but he definitely seems to of lost his mind. I've been here long enough to watch the decline. I'm not just judging from his most recent posts. I've watched it happen in real time. Started from "Hey MXE is pretty good" to well.. this.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Asante]
#21875639 - 06/29/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sorry that you see tough love and realistic comments as attacks on your person. I'm not the only one saying the same exact things. People are genuinely concerned for you. Attacks on the site? That's overboard and dramatic. I was playing off of Burke and zappa's poking fun.
Addicts get tough love here. I did. I see other addicts getting it, which is a step in the right direction. If strangers are telling you repeatedly that you are strung out in delusions, I dunno, maybe listen?
It's people *who care immensely for you*. It's not flaming/trolling. Step away for awhile and take care of yourself. I hate speaking for people, but I'm sure they'd be just as devastated if you ended up in the RIP thread.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Bassfreak] 1
#21875689 - 06/29/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: i dont see what the big deal about flaming is
were all adults, if you cant handle someone flaming you then you have serious problems
No shit, if being called a faggot by a stranger on the internet is enough for you to give up on it you probably shouldnt be posting on it in the first place.
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21875974 - 06/29/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i don't think the problem is calling people faggots, i think the problem is when thats all they do, shit just gets annoying. Its like they stepped into the ring to fight but then hide behind the flames. Because its easy to step into a thread to flame someone, throwing the first stone is always easiest. If you throw back its gotta be better, but to be better requires pushing the flame rule futher which puts yourself at risk. Its a pussy game created by pussys. Thats why i usually just copy the shit they said and paste it right back, its lame as fuck and so god dam boring, but its the only way to not get banned for doing what they did
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 3
#21876070 - 06/29/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You guys should stop throwing mental health diagnoses at me like you're licenced professionals. I understand you guys are concerned but you are making something sinister out of something that is far more innocent.
Yes that global sticky and some of the posts surrounding that have been peculiar, odd and inappropriate. The core of the message however was a solid and sound one.
I made a thread about getting a diamond in Antwerp for religious purposes. Someone jokes "you're not going to rob a relic from a church are you?" and POW, now Dys throws at me that I said I was going to rob a church.
You can check it back. Here you go
So now dear friend you are telling the world I said I was going to rob a church. Because YOU don't understand. Because YOU listen to my critics to get the word on me instead of to me directly.
Burke, I'm spreading the message that everything is in everyone. That nothing is more sacred than anything else because everything is divine. That love is the key to everything and a hundred times over, that I am no better than anyone else, that it is all in YOU.
As a result people accuse me of thinking I'm Jesus, and you now throw delusions of grandeur in the mix while my message is very far from that.
Yes I getb very out there when I get very high and because of the nature of dissociatives this can last days on end. But I always make it back.
I'm not going insane, even if it seems that way to you.
The more hope faith and love I experience, the more fear and doubt this inspires in you here.
The people in my real life, the people who actually see whats going on, cheer the changes they see in me. They are very clear that things are finally moving, and moving in the right direction. People on most sites I'm active on see this positive change too.
I'm blowing off steam here guys, and when I'm full speed ahead thats quite a lot of steam. I'm blowing off steam here just like many of you use the Shroomery for and which is why its such a mayhem.
Thanks for being supportive but telling a person on the comedown of intense trips that hes going insane and throwing the book of mental diagnoses at him, twisting his words, that is entirely not the way to be supportive. Thats fucking with his head.
I'm not about to have my head fucked with, for trollish or misguided caring reasons, I'm coming down, make my apologies for the scorched takeoff platform and I go about my business.
I know where I'm at and where I'm going. It's where I want to be and need to be. Offline life for the most part. Less online living.
Does this sound like the ramblings of a madman, or does it sound more grounded in consensus reality, simply because I actually AM coming down just like I say?
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Asante] 2
#21876082 - 06/29/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You seem pretty level-headed and coherent to me, although your revelations on the trips are basically the same things over and over I guess I dunno
I don't really see any delusions of grandeur coming from you or anything like that
Viva still is mentally ill though
Not you though
Don't listen to Dystopia, he likes going on long, senile rants making examples of random people
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Re: Is 2015 the Shroomery's darkest hour thus far? [Re: Sheekle] 1
#21876083 - 06/29/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante > Zappa
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