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2month old shrooms lose potency?
    #21861728 - 06/26/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So I picked shrooms 21 May, and dried them just with a fan for two days. They aren't cracker dry. I'm wondering if I need to consume them ASAP or can I wait another month?

The last time I had older shrooms I feel like they lost their potency. I had 3G and it was not as strong as 1.5g new shrooms. So this is why I ask.  will I need to double my dosage for them to work? I only have about 4g of them and I wanted to share between two but now I'm worried they're not as potent so I'm unsure of dosage. They're P.Subs

And they're just in a ziplock bag in my bedside drawer.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: m00sh]
    #21861735 - 06/26/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not getting them cracker dry will ensure potency loss.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21861931 - 06/26/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ah so they would be a LOT less potent ? Double dosage ?


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: m00sh]
    #21862075 - 06/26/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes. Eat them all and consider yourself lucky if you feel anything.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: m00sh]
    #21862746 - 06/27/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ah so they would be a LOT less potent ? Double dosage ?



What the fuck.
Who doesn't dry their mushies cracker dry?


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: Buck513]
    #23345117 - 06/14/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ah so they would be a LOT less potent ? Double dosage ?



What the fuck.
Who doesn't dry their mushies cracker dry?




It can be hard for new people. If you have small mushrooms you can get them cracker dry with a fan. If you have really big ones it can be difficult and you might THINK they are cracker dry but they aren't.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23345268 - 06/14/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This is interesting.  Why does the potency go down if they are not cracker dry?  Aren't fresh shrooms just as potent as dried?


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: EquinsuOcha]
    #23345274 - 06/14/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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This is interesting.  Why does the potency go down if they are not cracker dry?  Aren't fresh shrooms just as potent as dried?



Oxidation of I'm not mistaken.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23345285 - 06/14/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Psilocybin is water soluble.
The longer the shrooms hold water the more psilocybin is evaporated from them. Dry them fast.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23346085 - 06/15/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Psilocybin isn't "evaporated" but oxidised by the presence of water and oxygen, but yeah same result.  Dry with a fan and then get them cracker dry by putting in an airtight container with some calcium chloride in a paper envelope.

Then vacuum seal and freeze.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23346091 - 06/15/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's oxidizing because the water molecules present in the fruit body are naturally splitting to oxygen and hydrogen. I believe this is due to the other alkaloids and indoles present. The oxygen molecules formed are being added to the actives turning them to an inactive substance. Having no water inside the fruit body is exactly what you need for minimal oxidation because water is the key to oxidation in pretty much every substance that oxidizes.



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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23346123 - 06/15/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23346860 - 06/15/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

So it looks like this is a redox reaction happening with hydrogen as opposed to what people think is oxygen. Enzymes are not only the reducers, but also speed up oxidation heavily unless denatured at a specific high temperature (140+) or a different pH. At least that's what I've gathered so far on the subject.


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23346963 - 06/15/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Okay so... how do you get this link to paste?  I could just save this one as a template and figure it out but is there an easier way?


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23347076 - 06/15/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Once you search it just says search.php. click a sorting option then it changes the URL so you can paste


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Re: 2month old shrooms lose potency? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23347082 - 06/15/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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