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6-benzylaminopurine for pupping
    #21861705 - 06/26/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have 10 grams of 6bap on the way. Anyone have experiences?

I wonder if I can use vaseline instead of lanolin to mix my powder into.

Does 6bap work better if applied to a scratched areole or just to the unmarked flesh?

I have 4 pedros that have grown very similarly in height and shape. They are separated 2 per bucket. I plan to scratch 1 plant in each bucket and apply 6bap. The other plant will also get 6bap but no scratch. I will only do one areole on each cacti.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21861872 - 06/26/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

BAP works wonders on rooted cactus when you apply a small bit on an areole by agitating it a little bit. , i believe Vaseline jelly can be used as a substitute , it just isn't as clean as lanolin consididering lanolin is for babies and Vaseline is petroleum based.

Some plants i BAPtized  haven't pupped after an entire season , but they definitely will pup if you cut off the tip because that's what I did and each has shot 3 0pups

I killed a young loph with BAP basically by molesting it.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #21861894 - 06/26/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've got some BAP on the way as well as brassoline and a couple others I can't really remember the names of.

I'll let you know how it works for me. We need to keep this thread going to spread info about these hormones and how they work:wink:


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: spaceman101]
    #21864517 - 06/27/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Vaseline should be fine. It's just a petroleum product vs. a natural one like lanonlin. The melting point of the two is nearly the same. Be aware that if you get temps of 98+ F, the carrier paste might melt and you could get a line of pups below application unless you remove the paste or use it very sparingly.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: naum]
    #21864905 - 06/27/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was planning to make them pup at the lowest areole anyway. I want to try and make them look more natural.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21865339 - 06/27/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have tried this mixed success. I applied BAP in lanolin (1.5% w/w) to the areoles of a mature E. pachanoi, many of the treated areoles began branching. However, all the pups stalled and failed to grow more than 1.5cm. It's possible that repeated applications or a different concentration would be better or perhaps watering or with a BAP solution would be more effective.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: Ghost]
    #21865748 - 06/27/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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naum said: the carrier paste might melt and you could get a line of pups below application




That would be crazy awesome! Please tell me someone has a pic of something like that happening!


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I have tried this mixed success. I applied BAP in lanolin (1.5% w/w) to the areoles of a mature E. pachanoi, many of the treated areoles began branching. However, all the pups stalled and failed to grow more than 1.5cm. It's possible that repeated applications or a different concentration would be better or perhaps watering or with a BAP solution would be more effective.




Just speculating here because I've never messed around with BAP or anything, but maybe it pupped from the added hormones and then once the pups formed and the hormones went away/were used up/balanced out, the plant realized it didn't have the want or need for the pups and just discontinued the growth of them? Maybe it forced too many pups at once and couldn't support them...?


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21866366 - 06/27/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it had too many new growth tips, it would not have the energy to grow them all. Two pups came at the same time on my tbm. One stalled, the other is growing great.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21866869 - 06/28/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If it had too many new growth tips, it would not have the energy to grow them all. Two pups came at the same time on my tbm. One stalled, the other is growing great.



You could always remove the stalled pup and graft it to pereskiopsis.  There's a specimen I'd really like to clone that I'm going to do that with as soon as I can order some of this stuff.  So long as the pups get big enough to graft I'll be happy with the results.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21877395 - 06/30/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the 6BAP came in. I applied it with Vaseline to 3 cacti.

I have two sets of two pedros in two buckets. (4 cacti total) They grew very similar, almost identical. They are the same height and thickness. I applied 6BAP to one pedro in each bucket. On that pedro, I applied to two areoles. One was surface application, the other was scratch application. I did this on both buckets to have a control in each bucket. Double the experiment.

I also applied 6BAP to three areoles on my bridgesii log.

I will update when I have something.


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21877405 - 06/30/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:skifree2:
Can't wait!


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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21877428 - 06/30/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 6-benzylaminopurine for pupping [Re: spaceman101]
    #21877967 - 06/30/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've been noticed gel BAP effects if you add it on top of growth tip and aerolas as well.

IDK but not a single aerole have done pups instead of one test plant I given lots of BAP-6 to it's growth tip. It's kinda weird pupping but if you cut some small young pups off. Maybe you can get nicely branched cactus later on.

It doesn't seems to effective or pups are rather odd than natural forming.:shrug:

Fun stuff anyway.:lol:


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