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Variegated Seedling
    #21861376 - 06/26/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have a 3 day old variegated seedling. It is solid yellow where all the other seedlings I have are lime green.

Can I graft this early to young pereskiopsis?


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21861900 - 06/26/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hell yea I've done it myself with good results.



Just place it a lil off center on the peres for best growth:wink:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: spaceman101]
    #21862864 - 06/27/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I did the graft this morning. It was a very smooth operation. I put it on one of the nicest peres stalks I had. Still a smaller stalk, but good roots and leaves. I hope it takes.

Nice loph spaceman, my variegated seedling is a San Pedro.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21865620 - 06/27/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nice. Make sure you get some pics up at some point for us to drool at.

Damn spaceman, it seems like half of what he grows pops up as mutated or something. Lucky bastard:rofl:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21866716 - 06/27/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea I am a lucky bastard some how:smirk:. I seems to have TONS of mutants nearly every time I plant seeds. It's been this way my entire life though:grin:


I have a few more mutants that are new. I'll post some pics here soon when I snap some.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: spaceman101] * 1
    #21867400 - 06/28/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, here is my variegated trichocereus pachanoi var. lancas, matacamas seedling grafted on pereskiopsis spathulata.



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21867734 - 06/28/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21874248 - 06/29/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



An update, still looking good.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21876735 - 06/30/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21877074 - 06/30/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shouldn't be long till that thing takes off


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21879988 - 06/30/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am concerned. One side of the scion appears to be separating. However, the scion is still half attached and still plump.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21881790 - 07/01/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21882070 - 07/01/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I am concerned. One side of the scion appears to be separating. However, the scion is still half attached and still plump.




Plump is a good sign. Maybe it will attach well on the one side and feed the whole seedling. I think I see what you are talking about in the pic. From what I can see, it looks like the side that is attaching nicely is right there over the ring of the peres... if so, I'm feeling good about it. But then again, I'm still a grafting noob... :shrug:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21882370 - 07/01/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Happens quite often. No worries.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Argyreia]
    #21883374 - 07/01/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This was my third seedling graft. I've failed twice on week old Saguaros. This one looks different. It did not shrivel, so I also feel good.

All of my graft experience is with older pups and plant material.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21883392 - 07/01/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:superbanana:
Good job!

Here's a question - is it generally accepted that young seedling grafts are more difficult to successful graft than older plants and pups?
I've only done young seedlings so far so IDK.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21883554 - 07/01/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In my experience they are harder because of the size of the seedling and the even smaller piece that becomes a scion. Also they require more humidity. Before this year, I had a hard time getting seeds to germinate, so I did not have a viable source of seedlings. Now I have many. I imagine with more practice, which I will be getting soon, they will not prove to be difficult.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21884550 - 07/01/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21886481 - 07/02/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21886651 - 07/02/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like it has fused.

Might be something bad but since it has not shrivelled it looks ok.

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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Argyreia]
    #21887211 - 07/02/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the feedback. It keeps me from worrying too much


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21887235 - 07/02/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think you'll be ok buddy but you won't know for sure until you see the first signs of spines. I don't wanna scare you but I feel it's best to say that My first few albino grafted seedlings which were that small took a good lil while before they started showing signs of not taking.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21887382 - 07/02/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, it must have taken. even if you see half of the seedling detached, remember that the important part is the vascular ring. It happened to one of my Loph peres grafts, and it took a while, but after 2 weeks of stall, it started growing. The only inconvenience is that it has taken not perfectly, and the peres sometimes try to pup, instead of directing all the efforts on the scion.
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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21892628 - 07/03/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21895012 - 07/03/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like it is getting fatter. :thumbup:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21897657 - 07/04/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21898123 - 07/04/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

graft has taken, out of discussion
What i want to discuss is more the stalk, what is that? really strange pereskiopsis there


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21898128 - 07/04/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

nothing to strange about the pereskiopsis imo,

some get that woolly hair going, others not if that is to what your referring


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Rafiikii]
    #21898502 - 07/04/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say it looks like normal stock as well, and that scion should take off pretty soon for you. I find pereskiopsis like trichos are highly variable in their appearance based on environmental factors


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    #21899718 - 07/05/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mine tend to grow more wool indoors.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21900427 - 07/05/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21903066 - 07/05/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I see it's connected to the stock well but it looks to much like my early albino grafts which hold their shape well for a period of time and slowly shrivel.


Don't take this as the honest truth and please keep posting them pics I just felt I needed to say something "conscience".


If so don't be disappointed because I promise you'll have another shot soon enough:super:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: spaceman101]
    #21903556 - 07/05/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I see it's connected to the stock well but it looks to much like my early albino grafts which hold their shape well for a period of time and slowly shrivel.


Don't take this as the honest truth and please keep posting them pics I just felt I needed to say something "conscience".


If so don't be disappointed because I promise you'll have another shot soon enough:super:




Did yours swell some before withering? His has definitely swollen up a little bit since it grafted...


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21904140 - 07/06/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think it took. It has gotten slightly taller, and the bottom has fattened out. Ill be taking daily pics for the first few weeks. After that probably biweekly.


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    #21904193 - 07/06/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)


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    #21908590 - 07/07/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21910977 - 07/07/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't know if you mentioned this yet, but what species is the seedling?


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21911203 - 07/07/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That is San Pedro var. Lancas, Matacamas Peru.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21911416 - 07/07/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gotcha. For some reason I had it in my head that it was a loph this whole time. Then on that last pic you posted out of nowhere, I realized it didn't look like a loph seedling so I thought I'd ask.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21913337 - 07/08/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21913460 - 07/08/15 04:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Congratulations buddy!  :happyclaps:

My idea is that if i will have a child in the future, i will sow a batch of cactus seeds the same day. Why don't you do that?


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21913515 - 07/08/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wont be home again today.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21913556 - 07/08/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

same week XD !


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21913636 - 07/08/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lmao. I was going to start some t carmarguensis the other night but got sidetracked.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21913818 - 07/08/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Congrats kosmo. I'm sure you'll make a great father:super:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: spaceman101]
    #21914169 - 07/08/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!  Awesome news! I like Lemna's idea. Start some seeds within a week or so and keep it forever.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21915453 - 07/08/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

She was born at 2:04 pm, two hours ago


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    #21915524 - 07/08/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21915848 - 07/08/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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She was born at 2:04 pm, two hours ago



Congratulations, man. And welcome to this side of humanity, for things will NEVER be the same again for you and your [better?] half. :heart:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: LSoares]
    #21915899 - 07/08/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:amusedapplause:  Happy Birthday!


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21918991 - 07/09/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)


Day 12

I actually think it failed. Any other thoughts?


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21919080 - 07/09/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I agree dude.


My thoughts are. Don't be discouraged just start grafting seedlings that aren't so valuable to you as this one was over a lil time you'll really get the hang of it and you'll come across another variegate seedling that you'll feel a lot more comfortable working with due to your past success:wink:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: spaceman101]
    #21919145 - 07/09/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I only did this one because it was variegated. Ive got tons of seedlings to  graft once my peres comes up good .

Ill continue with daily pics for a few more days probably, just in case.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21919380 - 07/09/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What if its' just stalling?
I had to wait more than 20 days to see new growt in a loph graft.


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21919464 - 07/09/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Naw dude it didn't take and I could tell by day 6 and 7. The fresh young seedlings hold their shape sooo much better for a longer period of time if the grafts don't take. A lil larger "older" seedling would have noticeably shriveled by day 4 or so.


Continue to watch it though for a few more days or so. I promise you buddy you'll have another chance to graft a nice variegate.:wink:


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: spaceman101]
    #21919941 - 07/09/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Idk, you have way more grafting experience than me, but the first one I did that stuck took a little over 2 weeks to start doing anything... :shrug:


I definitely wouldn't just throw it away or give up on it... Not until it drops off or something...


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Re: Variegated Seedling [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21920098 - 07/09/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thats the thing. Its strongly attached, and in person the bottom is fat and round. The top however seems wrinkled and dead. I plan to keep posting daily pics until it either takes off or dies. Im not scrapping it. Also, i had an older graft on a blue myrtle that shriveled up and all but fell off.  The myrtle grew another pup, and now the scion is growing. So yea, maybe stalled.


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