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After Kundalini awakening: thoughts
    #20641139 - 09/30/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

UPDATE: ANSWER FOUND! SEE THIS THREAD - Two stages of Enlightenment: Nirvikalpa/Empty Void then Moksha/White Light
ALSO, READ JAN ESMANN'S WRITINGS, HE DESCRIBES THE PROCESS @ lovebliss.eu

I have been looking for an answer to the question "What happens after Kundalini awakening?" for a while now. Nobody seems to talk about it, everything on the web appears to be focused on the awakening process itself. However that begs the question - what's the point of the process itself? Today, a few things transpired. I went through the process about 3 years ago and it knocked me for six. Going through kundalini awakening is like being fucked by 3 cocks in BOTH your buttholes, it will break you apart like no other and rebuild you from the ground up... or more appropriately, it will shatter the living shit out of you and leave you all alone to pick up the pieces.


I have observed a few things post awakening. Essentially, the final point of Kundalini awakening from what I understand is when the kundalini reaches the crown chakra and hits the enlightenment centre in the brain talked of by Pandit Gopi Krishna. When this occurs, you will experience complete dissolution. In the Sufi circles this is known as Fana (which means dissolution, funnily enough). Everything disappears and you experience total emptiness for a subjective eternity.


This point marks the transition point of your life. It feels like the person who lived all those years died on that day. It feels like I am a new soul in an old body - what they call a "walk-in". It's like there are two yous, the you before, and the you after, and the old you is like a shell, the cocoon that is left behind as you metamorphise into the new being, whoever the fuck that is.


So without further ado/adonot, here are the things I experience now:

* A feeling of perfectly tranquil infinite excitement; it feels like there is a little fire in the heart which was not lit before. Now that the fire is lit, it is burning constantly without flickering, a constant sense of something happening, something unfolding. It is the feeling of Power, waiting to find a direction to flow through. It feels like if I found the right direction, I could accelerate in that direction at a lightspeed rate.


* A constant feeling of awe and wonder, like what you get in the few weeks after tripping on psychedelics, except it's permanent. You wake up to a new day every single day, even when the days are exactly the same old shit repeating ad nauseum. It's like experiencing from the point of view of a child.


* A feeling that something has completed within you. Prior to the awakening you may have the feeling that something is about to find completion within you, that you are looking for something whether or not you know what that something is. When the kundalini reaches the crown chakra and you pass through the Satori stage, this feeling reaches completion. Every day from then on feels like the afterglow of a deep cosmic orgasm. It's a feeling of release, total release. You develop this sudden ability to not care at all and be unaffected by anything. Physical limits still apply and stress still takes its toll, it's not like that. It's more like that core part of you, the part which watches, comes to the forefront and you reside in that and from there you can make your decisions; when before you might be swayed easily by circumstances.


* Connection to the energy realm - I am still exploring this, waiting for a good time in my life to realign my spine and fix my breathing and posture so I can do qigong again. But basically, I feel activated. I know I am because I could produce Chi balls and I could feel the kundalini directing it all. I felt my crown chakra light up one time, it felt like a pulsing multicoloured geometric flower resting atop my head, literally like a crown. It had this perfect geometric shape to it, the kind of geometric perfection you observe when you smoke DMT and it presents those crazy objects to you. Anyway, this is so far what I think the purpose of Kundalini is, to do energy work. So during Kundalini awakening the purpose is transformation/metamorphosis, after the awakening the purpose seems from my understanding to be that you develop into a being harnessing Qi energy. To what end, I have no idea. It's still early days.



* I have no more to add, this is all I have observed thus far. I am still the same me in many ways, same underlying self. But something feels completely different and I can't quite put my finger on it yet. Things feel the same yet completely different. I feel like I am maturing at an accelerated rate, that I am gaining in wisdom with each passing day and this wisdom is sourced from within and it won't stop flowing. Previously I'd have my good days and bad days but now every single day I learn something life-changing and it comes from within. I feel like a constantly updated repository of knowledge, constantly growing moment by moment. Prior to this sometimes I'd get stupider and have crazy phases where I let go and tried to commit suicide, so to speak, by just saying "fuck it all" and doing stupid shit like snorting retarded amounts of speed just to mash up my brain. I don't do anything stupid now, everything is kept under lock and key. However I thought perhaps Kundalini awakening rendered you impervious to doing wrong but unfortunately that is far, far, far from the case. You're still the same old shithead and you can make some brutal mistakes if you're not careful. For a few years I lived in a bubble where I felt that I was completely free from suffering altogether and I could do no wrong or make any mistakes. Don't make that mistake, it will cost you. It's not like that at all.


Anyway, to the seekers out there... I hope this helps. Kundalini is some serious shit. If you're not ready, it will kick your ass. If you are ready, tough shit. Your ass is getting kicked even harder. Hopefully you're one of the lucky ones who goes through the gentle awakening and you integrate the experience really well. But more than likely it will fuck you up. I felt like I got skullfucked after the thing finished. I lost my memory, attention, focus, awareness, everything. 3 years later it's slowly coming back but my sharpness/intelligence/on-the-ball-ness is nowhere near what it was prior. Although I guess part of that is also aging.

Most of all, it feels like I've completely died already. That samadhi point washes away everything, and I mean everything. There is nothing left to even know. It's not even that I know it. It's more that after seeing the emptiness itself, that all phenomenal knowledge is meaningless. There was total, perfect meaning in the emptiness. I don't even know why I'm alive right now, I don't see any real point to continuing this thing after that stage. The only thing I live for now is other people and other beings. I have no intrinsic purpose or fucks to give regarding myself as an individual entity. If it weren't for a few random things, I'd be perfectly happy walking the Earth all on my own as a lonesome totally free wanderer, completely not giving a fuck where I slept or ate or anything. But I have a life to live and I'll carry that shit on, for the sake of completion.



Good luck folks... if you have anything to add here, please do!


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: crkhd]
    #20641516 - 09/30/14 06:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

How did you raise or awaken your kundalini? Growing up most my time I was going through for years what I now know matches what i've heard a kundalini experience described as. Constant insanity (not like me being insane just intense and woah experiences lol) and such all the time. Everything was ramped up in a big way, and even had times where everything electronic around me would act up or mess up, constant rapid fire correct predictions etc among atleast dozens of other insane happenings. my mental imagery was too much at times during all this to, i had bad insomnia growing up and would only sleep bout 2 days a week when i was finally exhausted enough just cause when i'd close my eyes my mental imagery would be just as vivid and intense as if they were open lol, i didn't do anything to spark off kundalini or whatnot, i was pretty much just a 'my mama loves jesus and so do i' type of kid before it all happened and looser over time but during it all to. I'm just not sure if it's kundalini or if it is maybe it stopped or something and didn't complete? Cause for the past few years now it's just all kinda dull, I don't have the awe which i used to constantly have (which may be kinda good cause i'd joy cry over something as simple as motion lol), it's just a blank for the most part. Sometimes I wonder hwo I even interact or communicate like now cause I don't percieve any of the thoughts in me anymore, things still come out so tehres thinking in there somewhere I figure but for me reality went from being like a carnival to just 'i see things and i hear things and i smell things and i make noises'.i still have blips here and there of how it used to be but its more an exception rather than the norm like it used to be. but if you wanna say what schools or method system or whatnot you used to raise it along, cause ive been wanting to see if maybe I was a halfway risen kundalini or whatnot and now i'm  stuck lol, reality is kinda dull in a way and i can 100% relate to the last bit bout wandering and not caring, although i do like and want like a few people around, but that's bout the extent of it lol


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: crkhd]
    #20641787 - 09/30/14 07:03 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

So you're done here then.  Well it's been fun. Take care. :satansmoking:


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: crkhd]
    #20642119 - 09/30/14 08:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

It is said that Wittgenstein thought he had discovered true enlightenment, and sought the counsel of a wise old man to discuss it.  Wittgenstein gushed, and talked and talked, and gesticulated enthusiastically, and finally, came to the summation of his final philosophy.

He asked the wise old man what he thought about all this, and the wise old man said:

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I don't give a hoot.





Wittgenstein then, being made a fool, found his answer.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #20646876 - 10/01/14 11:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Hello Mr.crkhd. I would like to know if you are familiar with that scandanaavian fellow, Jan Essman? He is one of my personal favorite spiritual teachers and interestingly enough, in many ways his teachings are radically different from any other teacher I have studied. His is the only spiritual teaching I have studied which gives teachings on kundalani and how to awaken it. He loves kundalani and its a huge part of what eh teaches. You might also find him interesting because he does talk about a little bit about what happens after it is awakened. According to Jan, even after a man (or woman) attains basic Self-Realization, there is still much more that can be done with Kundalani which then brings the man into the state of love-bliss. He also gives mentidation methods for arousing Kundalani. Here is his website: http://lovebliss.eu/

I have a question. given the apparent value/importance of kundalani, why do so many teachings have so little to say about it?


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: Deviate]
    #20648326 - 10/02/14 11:40 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I had a spontaneous awakening some years ago.  Wracked with energy for about 15 minutes followed by several years of having my mind turned over and over repeatedly.  Every belief challenged and eventually shatttered.  You know the usual...

I tend to think that the overall process is kind of like an operating system upgrade for our minds.  Like once it settles down we now have different ways of perceiving things and processing information.

Of course the question remains.  What now?  What do you do if you find yourself running HumanOS 6.0 when most of your peers still run some 5.x HumanOS, (and parts of population seem to have barely upgraded beyond PrimateOS)?  Seriously, the whole world seem to be set up to accommodate and engage people running lower and less capable versions of mental operating systems.  It's kind of boring and lonely being an early adopter.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: Deviate]
    #20648466 - 10/02/14 12:21 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Deviate said:
Hello Mr.crkhd. I would like to know if you are familiar with that scandanaavian fellow, Jan Essman? He is one of my personal favorite spiritual teachers and interestingly enough, in many ways his teachings are radically different from any other teacher I have studied. His is the only spiritual teaching I have studied which gives teachings on kundalani and how to awaken it. He loves kundalani and its a huge part of what eh teaches. You might also find him interesting because he does talk about a little bit about what happens after it is awakened. According to Jan, even after a man (or woman) attains basic Self-Realization, there is still much more that can be done with Kundalani which then brings the man into the state of love-bliss. He also gives mentidation methods for arousing Kundalani. Here is his website: http://lovebliss.eu/

I have a question. given the apparent value/importance of kundalani, why do so many teachings have so little to say about it?




This is good stuff.  I had been kind of stuck for a while, unsure of what to do next.  However, this seems to have set things in motion again.  Excellent!

Thank you Deviate.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #20648859 - 10/02/14 01:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Pope: It was accidental. I didn't mean to, I didn't even know what Kundalini was at the time. I thought yoga was something you wear buttpants for in order to subject yourself to pain for God knows what. I thought chakras were an airy fairy load of drivel made up by people with nothing better to do than misguide others or hypothesise idly about reality. Well, I found out what a crown chakra was, that's for sure.

You know yourself better than anyone else. It's possible you could have your K halfway gone up, I wouldn't know. To make a conclusive statement knowing so little would be criminal. As for raising the K, there are many methods. Maybe you could check out Golden Flower Meditation - http://www.goldenflowermeditation.com/

Basically how I felt was this. When I was growing up, I felt a sense that something was not in place, or that I was looking for something and I had no idea what it was but I was always looking. I could not find the answer in science, so I directed myself towards spirituality. The first time I dosed DMT, I felt it unlock. The thing I was looking for, its sillhouette appeared, a faint whiff. So I dosed like a madman and I became a madman. I was smoking weed like a nutcase, an eighth a day of stupid high grade skunk. I felt like it was burning my brain and I didn't give a fuck because by then I felt like I was good as dead, I was severely depressed and chronically so for many years. My life was a bleak haze of anhedonia. I dropped LSD a couple times and it too burnt the shit out of my brain. One time I dropped 4 hits and it fucked me up into the beyond, burned my brain silly. By the time my K popped open for the first time, I had taken some obscene doses of DMT many times. I'd deliberately dose as high as possible for as long as possible. 18 hour trips on 20g+ mimosa. Highest I took was around 100g, I did 60g several times. By that point I was completely immersed in the DMT space, it felt like walking sober. At those doses (flood dose), all your receptors are saturated.


You enter this place I call the Void - a total dissolution into your surroundings, your body is full of pure white hot light which feels like the warmth of being in your mother's womb amplified x1000.  I actually remember the very first point I came into existence and I actually remember being in the womb for months, waiting in boredom and excitement and divine comfort for something to happen, so I can make that comparison legitimately :wink:.

The fundamental nature of living itself transpires in that state and you get "It". But when you sober up, you can't bring the "It" back with you but you'll always remember the feeling and when you go back, it's like going to your second home. Anyway, I believe that enough time spent in the Void state is what most likely triggered it. The shamans, they all journey to the place of death. If they come back alive, that is the day when they are finally born as a shaman. And I have zero doubt that this is what they do over in the Amazon, they might not call it Kundalini but that's almost definitely what it is.


I felt a series of successive realisations, as if the puzzle pieces came together at long last, one after the other. Then the K blew open, I got knocked out of consciousness and went into a 2 week long ecstatic bliss manic psychosis. I went through psychosis many times during the awakening, it was not pretty in any way shape or form. The longest one was like 3 months long and I was alone. All alone. My parents, family, friends, they had no idea and I was an 'untouchable', a dalit. Nobody wanted to know me or give a fuck. The reason being, my behaviour was totally erratic, it was like being possessed by a demon but really and honestly and truly, it was the years of accumulated junk, the karmas, shall we say, all displaying themselves on screen. Those darkest crevices of yourself which you keep hidden and would die if anyone were to know, all comes out. The doctor was happy to give me pills and call me schizophrenic but I knew better at the time, I knew they didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Even if people wanted to know me, it didn't matter. When you go through K, you're all alone, it's just you and She, and She is very fucking pissed off, pissed off at you. So you'll get an ass whoopin', a paddlin', a beltin'. Even if you tried to be not-alone with people, it doesn't matter: you're so far gone into the other realm that you couldn't be here if you tried. Completely alone. You face yourself, and yourself alone.


Icelander: Nope, I'm here to stay. You ain't getting rid of me that easily... However, I have found the meaning of life. It is... to make money, shitloads of it. More money than you could hope to even spend if you tried every waking moment of your life. Then go do what the fuck you like. I'm actually serious by the way... this is what I've learnt from the entire experience, this is the take-home pay after all taxes are deducted.


DividedQuantum: You don't get more "don't give a hoot" than pure emptiness. It's one of those 'you had to be there' kinda things but I can promise you, I don't give a fuck so much that the wise man isn't even there in my story. There isn't even a story. Just nothing, absolutely nothing. When you're in deep sleep, there is still "something". When you're in this state, there is literally nothing. Nothing at all. Nobody seeing nothing, that's all there is.


Deviate: Your reply is the reason I made this thread. Thank you innumerably.
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In the beginning, the body will feel like it is on fire with bliss. Your hands may shake and tears flow. The skin will feel electric and as if tingling. Your heart will expand with great love and your chest feel far too small. The brain vibrates and the scull feels as if being massaged with pure delight. There are no words to describe love-bliss. In the beginning it is agitated ecstasy, later it is ecstasy without agitation or unrest, but at total peace, finally it is Pure Being and Shakti in One. It is a fierce force, yet incredibly gentle. It is unmanifest, yet love, bliss and consciousness. As you get used to it and it integrates more and more into your system, every breath will send waves of lovebliss through your body. You will stop thinking and every act will be a spontaneous expression of lovebliss. Even the body becomes lovebliss. You will realize nothingness-being is not nothingness, but is lovebliss. And in that there is no ecstasy, only complete stillness, which is lovebliss.
http://lovebliss.eu/love-bliss.html





Sums it up.

Why do so many teachings have little to say about it? I think this is one of those things that finds you. How many people on this Earth have head the word "samadhi"? It's a magic word. You type it into Google, and the secrets of the Self are right there for you to devour. But nobody knows. Just the very knowledge of that word alone is like a cheat code for life. I think there are a lot of texts which talk about it but in a concealed way, a secretive way - alchemical texts. I have some reason to believe that K is the philosopher's stone. However I haven't heard anything about K in the quran, bible or torah. I am an avid follower of the quran (not the 'hadeeth' or 'sunnah' however, reason being: it's all lies) and I accept the majority of spiritual texts out there as I recognise the signature of divine Knowledge in them, once you've been through this shit it's clear as daylight who's telling the truth and who's talking out of their ass, and who hasn't experienced jack shit but is still talking. Once you see that emptiness, once you see it! On that note, I have talked to like 3 or 4 people who have also gone through K and experienced the grand finale. So it's perhaps a lot more common than you'd think.


AllGreyThumbs: Being part of this is not just a blessing but it's a responsibility. You now have billions of people relying on you to fully fruit and manifest what you came into the world to bring forth. You're bearing the torch, the others can't fucking see yet. They will one day, but until then it's on you. I'm trying my damndest to do what I can as an individual... namely, relentless self-improvement. Really? Read my response to Icelander. When the money comes in, if it does, that's when human OS 6.0 will show us what it's got. Without money, you are useless. Without money you're as good as a piece of floating space junk. Without money, you're not contributing to anything but our collective enslavement because without money, you're a slave like all the rest. Of course if you wanted to you could organise millions of people moneylessly but good fucking luck with that. Nobody wants to take a bullet if the bullet comes for free. Single out a random twat off the road and tell em you'll give em 50k to wipe your ass for you and 90% of people will do it and then kiss you on the cheek afterwards. Yeah they'll be slightly disappointed when at the end you write them a nice cheque for 50,000 pesos butt fuck it, whatever. Money makes the world go round.



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    #20649374 - 10/02/14 03:56 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

crkhd, I like your posts very much.  You seem to have an excellent perspective, and have clearly been around the block.  But I am a little nonplussed by your assertion that money is the answer to the question of life.  I understand your point, and you are quite correct that the most socially effective thing one can do, in order to effect objective change, is to make and spend wisely a whole bunch of money.  I'm with you there.

But I have to say, when I think about the people -- the writers, artists, philosophers, scientists, friends -- for whom I have the most respect, none of them had a whole lot of money.  And when I think about the major social forces (read: billionaires) of our time and times past, frankly and candidly most of them were and are total bastards for whom I have no respect whatever.

So, when I try to put this materialist philosophy of yours in practice, I find a dissonance.  Most of the remarkable people don't have a lot of money, and most of the people who have a lot of money are pretty unremarkable as souls.

How do you resolve this fact?


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #20652969 - 10/03/14 11:15 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

crkhd,

What will you do if or when you gain money and the influence it can bring? What things would you change about this world and why?


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #20659920 - 10/05/14 02:33 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

OK the real asset is not actually money. Money is #2 on the list. #1: human connection, friends, employees. But money is the ticket to that. Money is what enables you to do good things for other people - things that are impactful and meaningful and significant, things that pack a punch. Like clearing off someone's debt for instance or buying someone a house, directly quantifiable results. A single life-saving medication. Doors open with money! It's a skeleton key for the world, all you have to do is flash enough of it and you're getting through wherever the heck you want to go.


Anyway as for what I'd do if I had the money, that's a very interesting question. We can all dream, eh! I'm prepared to put in the 100+hrs/wk demanded of a true lucrative fast lane operation, as I see it there is no point whatsoever in setting your goals too low. If you set them low then you will be satisfied and satisfaction is your enemy here, it comes with a hefty dose of taking things for granted. Not only that but you immediately say no to the higher opportunities, those things that seem like a batshit crazy idea then next thing you know the dude's got like $50mil spare change in a Cayman Islands account.




Social enterprising is the word, my friend. I believe social enterprising will overtake capitalism because it is deregulated yet self-regulating. Social enterprises are for-profit businesses which channel their profits into social/community ventures. I believe that once this movement becomes global, the quality of life for all on Earth will dramatically increase and disparities will balance. Our problem is not the people - at the end of the day we all gotta eat and we gotta wake up and choose our place in the vast ratrace. But well the corporations of today are soulless psychopaths, the antidote to this is to pump out soulful business and take over the markets.

The idea is to trust in the good nature of mankind, because the statistics do point in the direction of us all being fundamentally good at heart - rates of violence are at an all time low and decreasing. So what I'd do, is set up social enterprises left right and centre. Here's a water pipe going from whereverstan to Uganda so that they can all finally have some god damned water. This is where the ego must be thrown out... It can't be about you, social enterprising cannot be about you. There is one trait which you only attain to by making sure you are not needed - that trait being one's legacy. That's what it comes down to, I've spawned onto Earth and as far as I can tell my job is to do some house cleaning. Get that yucky oil and plastic crap out the water, heal some ecosystems, all sorts.


You get the gist... with money there are no limits. You can hire someone ridiculously experienced to organise things for you and magic your dreams into reality. One second it's in your head, the next second you're holding a prototype fresh off the CNC mill. And well, the primary reason I say money, is because of how it can be used: money is the ability to put a smile on someone else's face, it is the power to do good unto others. And this is the root of it: our purpose is to attain the ultimate good by perfecting ourselves to the ultimate standard of goodness and character. When you die, who's going to come to your funeral? Now your immediate friends and family, sure. But there are some key community figures who've hit the world so hard that when they die it's a national or international day of mourning. That's the kind of impact we wish to each be looking at. That is our meaning and purpose; to rack up as many hits as possible in the list of beings you have done good unto.

Basically, before Kundalini I went out of my way to good deeds whereever and whenever I could. Now after Kundalini, this does not change. Samadhi means nothing, absolutely nothing, if there is no charity occurring. It's the giving which earns you the true sense of peace, when you feel that deep nourishing fulfillment as you watch someone else being healed in front of your eyes by your leave. So anyway the goal is to make as much money as possible and blast the world with long-term solutions to ancient or recurring problems. There are two ways but really they are the same: one way is to invent solutions to problems, to alleviate suffering. Another way is to generate valuable novel works of goodness, to add pleasure/peace to the Earth. I guess it would be a half-half thing - while there are still major problems on Earth it would be ignorant to not aid in their alleviation. We don't need an iPhone 7.0S, we need to get half the Earth access to some damn blasted friggin water ffs.

The vibe is purely 100% dependent on ourselves, every day is completely different and our actions ripple through, the minutest of thoughts displays itself out on the big screen.


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #20659940 - 10/05/14 02:55 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I had a spontaneous awakening some years ago.  Wracked with energy for about 15 minutes followed by several years of having my mind turned over and over repeatedly.  Every belief challenged and eventually shatttered.  You know the usual...

I tend to think that the overall process is kind of like an operating system upgrade for our minds.  Like once it settles down we now have different ways of perceiving things and processing information.

Of course the question remains.  What now?  What do you do if you find yourself running HumanOS 6.0 when most of your peers still run some 5.x HumanOS, (and parts of population seem to have barely upgraded beyond PrimateOS)?  Seriously, the whole world seem to be set up to accommodate and engage people running lower and less capable versions of mental operating systems.  It's kind of boring and lonely being an early adopter.



I feel quite close to this description. It is indeed an OS upgrade. I'd also add boosted senses, both inwards and outwards, and a more complex model of the world, methods how to use and incorporate that extra data.

For me it was the traveling, tripping (Salvia, DMT, Ayahuasca, shrooms and acid) and long long bike rides alone through nature. I think the silent breath work over many many hours, then living alone in nature for some weeks, away from the constant chatter of urban life, these things together with some tripping allow for true awakening to begin.

What now, IMO it's all about following one's inner sense of joy and fascination and curiosity, going wherever that leads. Generally I find that I like to share this stuff, the possibility of an upgraded existence, as well as optimize and upgrade the apps that come with it.

Sensing and OS performance has a lot to do with health of the body, a clean and powerful nervous system, proper full breath and bringing all of this stuff together harmoniously. The Western world has a lot of technological toys and tricks and smartphone and plasma screens, but it has yet to bring forth a working method of delivering a clear, powerful, vibrant nervous system. It's very hit-and-miss in that regard, so those of us that feel we've got at least part of the solution, I think it's on us to help others reach a better OS as well.

Going to psy festivals, I've seen that A LOT of people there seem to be connected to this energy, compared to the people in the city. It's of course different levels of connection and development, how "awake" one is, but at the festivals I see more people who are in the know, and don't need to verbalize that much. A look or a nod is enough to get the point across. We are both awake, we are both here and now and thus we see and enjoy each other.

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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: Spacerific]
    #20660402 - 10/05/14 09:02 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Crkhd,

It's always cool to see somebody do something nice in this world.  As you go through changes as profound as we have there is a tendency to pull back from the drama of life.  By the time you regain balance it sometimes seems like you are so far removed from the games that it is pointless to even try to play.  It is hard to come full circle and once again go all in and actually try to play a part.  I mean we all now know that we would just be playing the part and it may not even matter, but at the same time somebody has to play the part, so maybe it should be someone with a little insight and wisdom.

Thank you for inspiring me to take what I have seen and learned and get back in the game.

Spacerific,

There is a lot that comes with the new ways of seeing things, including more awareness.  I also think it is important to have a healthy mind, body, and lifestyle.  But what I have also seen is that the most important part of health is me being where I need to be.  When I am in the right place, acting from my highest self, when the energy is flowing outward through my body and life, then I am healthy.  However when loose track of what I can be then everything goes to complete shit, mentally and physically I go down hill, and I make different kind of choices.

I think that this is an important part of what is possible.  While I'm not ready to blabber on about miracles and healing bodily ailments I do tend to think that many many health issues are contributed to by being in unhealthy states of mind.  I also tend to think that if one could manage to maintain a decent flow of creative energy through a clean and healthy mind then many issues might improve or even be resolved.

To use my own terminology, if we are into HumanOS 6.0, by the time we reach 6.3 or 6.4 or 6.5 it might be plainly obvious that we can have tremendous control over our health and bodily processes.  We might even see a greatly reduced need for conventional medicine (which unfortunately is kind of getting out of control and off track).

Yea, I sort of suspect that we may only be starting to understand just how much these new operating systems can do with a little more refinement, and familiarity.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #20660444 - 10/05/14 09:19 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if you're familiar with the work of Bashar (the channeled alien dude :biggrin:), it's too freaky and out there for some, but for me it's one of the best pieces of advice I've been running under, as much as possible. I've tried it and tested it and time and again found it to work.

I mean this.

As soon as I started, things started moving. Whenever I stopped doing that for a while (and started worrying, over-planning and trying to over-control things and situations instead of being present) things have gone south. Re-started applying again, going smooth again :thumbup:

Feel healthier than ever (physically and emotionally) and most importantly, life is fresh and adventurous. Things happen. There is "oomph" to it :biggrin:

Indeed it's quite obvious the mainstream "medicine" + pharma industry have gotten WAY out of hand. But then again, Googling is free. Failing to put in the time to Google, when you have time, net access and a comp (like most Westerners do by now) I don't think that's a "mainstream medicine" problem. It's more of a failing-to-care, or in other words failing-to-give-a-shit problem. That one's a bit harder to fix (if even possible), and it seems it's always been an issue all throughout history.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: Spacerific]
    #20668111 - 10/06/14 07:15 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I watched that video and the guy reminded me of a martial arts instructor that I had.

It was rather compelling.

I don't know about aliens and stuff (I did watch some of his other videos and didn't know what to make of them [particularly the 2010-15 awakening])
but it seems to me that his advice in that video is sound.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: KruDam]
    #20670163 - 10/07/14 06:38 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I watched that video and the guy reminded me of a martial arts instructor that I had.

It was rather compelling.

I don't know about aliens and stuff (I did watch some of his other videos and didn't know what to make of them [particularly the 2010-15 awakening])
but it seems to me that his advice in that video is sound.



I think all the "aliens" stuff is rather irrelevant for most people in their daily life. That's not the advice or info I focus on, nor the validity of the source.

Simply the advice in the video, follow enthusiasm in the moment, wherever it goes, has proven VERY effective in creating a bunch of adventure and further exciting in my life, which is precisely what I wanted :biggrin:

So test, experiment and report back, IMO you'll have some pretty awesome times even doing the experiment :lol:


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: crkhd]
    #21828606 - 06/19/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

hi, i made this account just to post in this thread, i felt all the symptons you've described above, life unfolding like a puzzle, extreme bliss for some months, these effects ceased like 1 year and 1 month ago, i was hospitalized because they told me i was psychotic, but everything was in control, and i was in touch with the "creators mind" or something else, i was knowing the truth about everything, and i was connected with a high voltage energy circuit, but then, it dropped, and turned it upside down, i searched about it, its the dark knight of the soul, and kundalini burnout, so the first 4 months after the re-awakening, was terrible, extreme fatigue, extreme anhedonia, i suffered alot, then i was back into a situation wich now i felt is anhedonia, my doctor, says i suffer from major depressive disorder, followed by psychotic crysys, i know it is ahead from the clinical diagnosis, it was very deep, and now, i dont know what i should expect, all those kundalini symptons started, with yoga kumbhakas (deep retentions of air), and i used to mix weed with sadhana sometimes, nowadays i know weed isnt the way, because i tried to smoke like 5 months ago, and turned my mind into 200v into a thought loop, (worst than empty mind), now, i feel empty mind almost all the time, when some thought appears, it is like a flash, and disappears, knowledge seems worthless, i dont know what do to, i feel very depressed, and with anhedonia, nothing seems to turn me on, should i expect more time in this situation? it will fade, and i will be like free from this suffering like a good health condition after a disease(like i read from kundalini burnouts), please give me a sign, much love, alexandre.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: apdepauli]
    #21828698 - 06/19/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well there are certain ways to live if you want most out of it

And you already know those probably

Now I'm going out to meditate in nature, because it's night ;-)


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: lessismore]
    #21859733 - 06/26/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All these feeling come from your human mind.  But you aren't your human mind.  You probably understand this academically.  Perhaps you also understand that you can't think your way out of the human mind, since thinking is a function of the human mind.

Try love.  Love is the outward flow of creative energy.  Open up and allow it to flow.

The outward flow of love will draw you back toward your source, toward yourself, toward the reality of all of the things you understand academically.

Seriously.  Open your heart and set down your emotional blocks and allow love and the creative energy to flow outwards from you into life.


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Re: After Kundalini awakening: thoughts [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #21859759 - 06/26/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Acceptance is what is needed, in any life situation, awakening or not


If we don't accept our life situation, or the changes we're going through, we fight with our mind and thoughts , that creates misery


Too many thoughts, usually stem from non-acceptance in ones life
Too many emotions same thing


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