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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21863324 - 06/27/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the commode.


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21863331 - 06/27/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Well maybe not more rights..but more faith in them. We need more woman cops. More woman politicians. A woman president maybe...things like that.

I cant think of any rights off the top of my head hut im sure theres some.





what's stopping women from becoming cops, there are laws that force the hiring
or women so what exactly is standing in their way. what is stopping women from
running for political office, there's no restriction based on sex, I know you
may find it shocking but there are even women that serve as astronauts and in
the military


what privileged do men have that women do not






I take it you never heard of the term "Its a mans world"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21863346 - 06/27/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
And what leads to the idea that misogyny no longer exists, or never existed in the first place?




where the fuk did you even get that? Where did he say that? You're just changing the subject and flipping words around while avoiding the common sense he posted about what happens at his company

and yes I've seen this before about what he said, some chick gets off easy JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A GIRL...

is
that
not
sexist?

what do I need to find the masculinist movement now to justify this lack of equality?


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21863362 - 06/27/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
No I don't actually.  I don't provide racial data because I identify as post-racial, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that so I'll just leave it there.

also

Why does the Census Bureau collect information on race?  back to top
Information on race is required for many Federal programs and is critical in making policy decisions, particularly for civil rights. States use these data to meet legislative redistricting principles. Race data also are used to promote equal employment opportunities and to assess racial disparities in health and environmental risks.

https://www.census.gov/population/race/about/faq.html

What does the Census Bureau mean by race?  back to top
The Census Bureau collects race data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, and these data are based on self-identification. The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country, and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically or genetically. People may choose to report more than one race to indicate their racial mixture, such as “American Indian” and “White.” People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race. In addition, it is recognized that the categories of the race item include both racial and national origin or socio-cultural groups. You may choose more than one race category.



Of course they don't define it.  That isn't their purview.  The respondents define it and almost all of them check a box.  I myself check 2


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21863408 - 06/27/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
Well maybe not more rights..but more faith in them. We need more woman cops. More woman politicians. A woman president maybe...things like that.

I cant think of any rights off the top of my head hut im sure theres some.





what's stopping women from becoming cops, there are laws that force the hiring
or women so what exactly is standing in their way. what is stopping women from
running for political office, there's no restriction based on sex, I know you
may find it shocking but there are even women that serve as astronauts and in
the military

what privileged do men have that women do not





I take it you never heard of the term "Its a mans world"




I've heard many terms such as "all men are rapists", are you a rapist bill?
someone coining a term doesnt make the term accurate or truthful


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21863416 - 06/27/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
No I don't actually.  I don't provide racial data because I identify as post-racial, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that so I'll just leave it there.

also

Why does the Census Bureau collect information on race?  back to top
Information on race is required for many Federal programs and is critical in making policy decisions, particularly for civil rights. States use these data to meet legislative redistricting principles. Race data also are used to promote equal employment opportunities and to assess racial disparities in health and environmental risks.

https://www.census.gov/population/race/about/faq.html

What does the Census Bureau mean by race?  back to top
The Census Bureau collects race data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, and these data are based on self-identification. The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country, and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically or genetically. People may choose to report more than one race to indicate their racial mixture, such as “American Indian” and “White.” People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race. In addition, it is recognized that the categories of the race item include both racial and national origin or socio-cultural groups. You may choose more than one race category.



Of course they don't define it.  That isn't their purview.  The respondents define it and almost all of them check a box.  I myself check 2





check them all because genetics say it fits


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21863418 - 06/27/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
:rolleyes: Honestly I have no interest in reading all your links.  I wish you could actually address what I said without resorting to: "Look at how many links I have compiled?!?!?  Can u do this?!?!"

Explain to me how someone who advocates for equality between men and women is not a feminist.  You are either for that, or you're not a feminist and believe that the differences between the gender entails some level of designed inequality.  It does not ultimately matter that fem is in the title any more than it matters that man is in the title of mankind.  It's a fucking word and it means what it says in the dictionary, that is how I define things and if you are going to disagree with me there I don't know how we can even have a conversation.




you're pathetic

he absolutely destroyed everything

your response = "bury my head under the ground like an ostrich"

terrible poster


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: cube talk]
    #21863431 - 06/27/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

nah just one that doesn't espouse your exact views. fuck off.


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: cube talk]
    #21863432 - 06/27/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

get you tongue out of shroomisms butt crack and learn to think for yourself.  Thanks for the thoughtful critique.  :sploosh:


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21863444 - 06/27/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

I've heard many terms such as "all men are rapists", are you a rapist bill?
someone coining a term doesnt make the term accurate or truthful



yes, someone who claims to endear to the concept of feminism (which they don't peddle or adhere to but just aggregate view's upon)  = someone who believe's the "man rape" pandering methodology.

do you people...you..."people"... ever shit out anything but rhetorical cockamamie trolly bullshit? no? ok then. fuck off.


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21863483 - 06/27/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Look. at. all. these. links:

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/republicans-treat-voters-like-absolute-idiots-conservatives-eat-right/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/floyd-elliot/study-finds-conservatives_b_1235382.html
http://reverbpress.com/politics/proof-republicans-are-stupid/


Look at how crazy MRAs are:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2012/08/04/an-mra-explains-christianity/
https://debunkingmras.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/debunking-the-mens-rights-movement-x/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/warren-farrell-mens-rights-movement-feminism-misogyny-trolls

Akira get me Merriam or Webster on the line, they have got "conservative" "republican" and "MRA" all wrong.  It seems to me like they all say they are political movements that espouse a specific set of beliefs, but actually they are all idiots.  I don't think we really need to get to complex here, maybe we could also make it an adjetive tho like "That shirt looks pretty MRA".


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: cube talk]
    #21863485 - 06/27/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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cube talk said:
Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
:rolleyes: Honestly I have no interest in reading all your links.  I wish you could actually address what I said without resorting to: "Look at how many links I have compiled?!?!?  Can u do this?!?!"

Explain to me how someone who advocates for equality between men and women is not a feminist.  You are either for that, or you're not a feminist and believe that the differences between the gender entails some level of designed inequality.  It does not ultimately matter that fem is in the title any more than it matters that man is in the title of mankind.  It's a fucking word and it means what it says in the dictionary, that is how I define things and if you are going to disagree with me there I don't know how we can even have a conversation.




you're pathetic

he absolutely destroyed everything

your response = "bury my head under the ground like an ostrich"

terrible poster





Yea.. Pretty much.

Can't even read my own thread because of these 2 idiots


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21863489 - 06/27/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Well maybe not more rights..but more faith in them. We need more woman cops. More woman politicians. A woman president maybe...things like that.

I cant think of any rights off the top of my head hut im sure theres some.





what's stopping women from becoming cops, there are laws that force the hiring
or women so what exactly is standing in their way. what is stopping women from
running for political office, there's no restriction based on sex, I know you
may find it shocking but there are even women that serve as astronauts and in
the military

what privileged do men have that women do not





I take it you never heard of the term "Its a mans world"




I've heard many terms such as "all men are rapists", are you a rapist bill?
someone coining a term doesnt make the term accurate or truthful





true


--------------------
Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21863492 - 06/27/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

stfu, you have no thread, it's a troll thread.


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21863493 - 06/27/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:


true



nice argument. so do you easily turn the other cheek to get wreaked by big penises or is it just for Prisoner's giant shlong?


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21863495 - 06/27/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
stfu, you have no thread, it's a troll thread.




And you were the 2nd.


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21863497 - 06/27/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

and your thread is a fucking troll thread. you don't agree with me or moonrock, even though i've said consistently i don't espouse feminist views, but you're too narrow minded to read anything.

go suck more cock.


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21863512 - 06/27/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
:rolleyes: Honestly I have no interest in reading all your links.  I wish you could actually address what I said without resorting to: "Look at how many links I have compiled?!?!?  Can u do this?!?!"

Explain to me how someone who advocates for equality between men and women is not a feminist.  You are either for that, or you're not a feminist and believe that the differences between the gender entails some level of designed inequality.  It does not ultimately matter that fem is in the title any more than it matters that man is in the title of mankind.  It's a fucking word and it means what it says in the dictionary, that is how I define things and if you are going to disagree with me there I don't know how we can even have a conversation.




you're pathetic

he absolutely destroyed everything

your response = "bury my head under the ground like an ostrich"

terrible poster
Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
get you tongue out of shroomisms butt crack and learn to think for yourself.  Thanks for the thoughtful critique.  :sploosh:




see shroomism, this is why you don't argue with feminists

they dont care about facts
they dont give a flying fuk about men
they have an agenda

they will ignore everything that is against that agenda, to the hysterical point of using some definition in the dictionary to shield what it really means and what it's really doing in the real world

that's what modern feminism is and that's why you're wasting your time arguing with them because they just. dont. care.


excellent posts though, I see you've actually done your research from everything as petty to that stupid wage gap myth to the laughable way the courts treat these types of situation

just remember, some people can't be reasoned with

some people just wanna watch the world burn


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21863527 - 06/27/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
nah just one that doesn't espouse your exact views. fuck off.




lol "my exact views"

aka don't get in a debate if you're not prepared for the possible consequences

aka getting your ass owned


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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21863560 - 06/27/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
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BlindSophist said:
Like seriously, Shroomism, you seem a decent guy, so your hardcore antifeminism is kinda confusing to me... you shouldn't have any problem with feminism as a general movement if you generally care about the welfare of women. If you have problems with specific sub-movements of feminism or particular individual feminists, welcome to the club, there are some real assholes out there who do terrible stuff in the name of "feminism". But you'd do much better to critique their actions individually than making incoherent generalizations about feminism as a whole.




If it was just a small sub-section of feminism that did it, I would address that. But this attitude has become the mainstream of modern feminism. It isn't just a few select individuals. I find it extremely difficult to find modern feminists who aren't complete hypocrites and don't constantly espouse this mentality. If you have some examples of sensible modern 'feminists' who champion true equality among the sexes..  I would really love to see them. Because most of the egalitarian people who push for REAL equality, are labelled as MRAs. Case in point: Karen Straughan, Dianna Davison, Dr Helen Smith, etc. Notice I mentioned all females, because men aren't taken seriously when talking about equality. Watch a few of their videos. The modern feminist agenda is to push for special treatment by constantly regurgitating made up or doctored 'facts', ignore any facts that contradict their myths and denounce everything as part of the "patriarchy". Then if you disagree or present a different argument, you are just labeled and written off as a misogynistic woman hater. Modern feminism - is the patriarchy in lipstick.

Modern feminists... make a huge stink about "gamergate".. publicly shame and make a well respected scientist who just achieved a monumental scientific achievement... break down into tears over a shirt he wore, that a chick made for him.. and campaign against men's rights..
Meanwhile all over Europe...  a huge ongoing Muslim gang rape ring is uncovered.. and feminists are completely silent on the issue. Why is that? They are constantly going on and on and on about "rape culture epidemic"... going on and on and on about the "1 in 4 women are raped" MYTH..  but when a REAL instance of systematic rape is exposed, they are completely silent. Because it doesn't fit their narrative of the white male oppressor that is the Patriarchy, they cant criticize minorities over fears of offending ‘multicultural’ sensitivities. Instead, lets focus all our energy on attacking video games as supporting the patriarchy. Hypocrisy... Hypocrisy everywhere.





Shroom, thanks for capturing my thoughts so clearly in your own words! You did a wonderful job:yinyang: You see that the feminism movement just didn't stop collecting power and momentum. When it did hit its peak, where it could of stayed at and kept doing good, instead kept rising to new levels. Levels that have focused on hatred, fear and insecurites towards men and collecting more power. Versus seeking simple equal rights, love and compassion reeling towards global peace.:peace: It boils down that men and women are complexly  different emotionally and physically, so nothing will ever be completely balanced. Its much much more interesting this way I believe:heart:

Ain't no time for hate! :flowerchild:
Enjoy the debating:thumbup:

:sunny:Shorty:sunny:


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