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akira_akuma
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Bill_Oreilly said: ok
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Is it wrong that I want to punch her in the face? Cause I totally do, I mean Id probably just get some chick I know to do it but still.
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Bill_Oreilly said: Well maybe not more rights..but more faith in them. We need more woman cops. More woman politicians. A woman president maybe...things like that.
I cant think of any rights off the top of my head hut im sure theres some.
what's stopping women from becoming cops, there are laws that force the hiring or women so what exactly is standing in their way. what is stopping women from running for political office, there's no restriction based on sex, I know you may find it shocking but there are even women that serve as astronauts and in the military
what privileged do men have that women do not
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Is it wrong that I want to punch her in the face?
no, because equality and shit
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Bill_Oreilly said: Well maybe not more rights..but more faith in them. We need more woman cops. More woman politicians. A woman president maybe...things like that.
I cant think of any rights off the top of my head hut im sure theres some.
what's stopping women from becoming cops, there are laws that force the hiring or women so what exactly is standing in their way. what is stopping women from running for political office, there's no restriction based on sex, I know you may find it shocking but there are even women that serve as astronauts and in the military
what privileged do men have that women do not

is that a real magazine? That looks great. I never realized that my dick pics were actually feminist activism.
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there's probably a lot of things you dont know about feminists
"A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by three men simultaneously," -Bernie Sanders
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I'm sure there is. That doesn't change the core values of feminism in my mind. Women are free to fantasize about whatever they want and not be judged for it any more than a man who sleeps with a woman and fantasizes about raping three women simultaneously. Controlling other people's fantasies is a crazy thing for any movement to get behind, feminism included. People can have a fantasy and understand that is not reality.
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moonrockmushy said: I'm sure there is. That doesn't change the core values of feminism in my mind. Women are free to fantasize about whatever they want and not be judged for it any more than a man who sleeps with a woman and fantasizes about raping three women simultaneously. Controlling other people's fantasies is a crazy thing for any movement to get behind, feminism included. People can have a fantasy and understand that is not reality.
do you see the irony of this
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the irony of you thinking your fantasy's about feminism are real and not imagined, even though you think that they are? that irony?
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I don't really see the irony, but I've never been that good at understanding irony. You are saying the implied meaning of something I said is contrary to the literal definition?
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akira_akuma said: the irony of you thinking your fantasy's about feminism are real and not imagined, even though you think that they are? that irony?
my name isnt bernie sanders
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Re: Feminism, why?????? [Re: Shroomism]
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akira_akuma said: i'll post a video featuring Karen Straughan in an interview (Young turk's so lol's may be had)
she touches on some good points, so far, and i'll continue watching this video now.

She always has good points. I really suggest checking out some of her own videos. Or if you have time... listen to some of the Honey Badger Radio podcasts. They are on fucking point.
Karen is saying (and alot are following heedlessly) that the beginnings of the woman's suffrage movement started in England, but alot of women wanted to deny themselves the right to vote because then they'd be subject to the draft; and that that is a reason to promote that they weren't thinking of equality, in that sense. but it's not because like some people are trying to reign in, that they were not willing to go to war because it wasn't fair for them, unlike the men, because they were women (or weak or whatever reason have you, that one'll hear), it was because of the fact that the draft was already unfair and unreasonable and that because NO ONE wants to go to war to begin with. it's not only a red herring, Karen's argument that is, because it's specious to assume they were unequal in rights to begin with because they need not go to war like the men; it's also a facetious red herring, because in the US woman's suffrage started well before the draft was abolished constitutionally, so hence, not only was the movement irrelevant to the instance of the draft unfairly requisitioning men over women, it was also irrelevant to her overall point: the draft was only abolished because people realized it was a stain to equal rights and civil rights on the face of it, so because it was already not equal, it can't have anything to do with women given preferential treatment to men, because men were already being unfairly treated without women's involvement to begin with. it has nothing to do with women wanting to avoid men's "obligations": or responsibilities; it has to do with the fact that no one in their right mind WANTS to go to war PERIOD. women were essentially given their freedom from the draft for specious reasons, already...but nonetheless they were exempting themselves in the case that Karen brought up, not to be pretentious or stifle men, but because they were more sensible to think to avoid anything that'd make them go to war. but it's a completely different scenario anyways to women's suffrage in America, because as you can plainly see the draft was still instated among men, and EXCLUDED women on principal, AFTER woman's suffrage had begun to take shape, in America.
therefore it is completely inexcusable a red herring. and it's not an excuse on the women's part, anyway, in Karen's example, but just common sense. the rest of her points, i agree with however.
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moonrockmushy said: I think it's pretty clear what you mean. Everybody deserves more rights. There's really no point in arguing that with someone with no grasp of the concept of basic human equality. It's such a simple concept yet it is at the root of many of the struggles we still face as a people.
If you hate crazy feminists, then stick up for the ones that are genuine and intelligent.
It has not only an impact on women, but on the idea that everyone has a voice and that voice deserves to be heard, which is why it is particularly offensive to me to try and say feminism doesn't deserve to be heard.
They have a right to speak and I have the right to mock, ridicule and ignore them. Much like I feel about you although in your case I feel it is more a duty than a right..
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If you insist but feminism is a positive movement for positive people at it's core, and to fan the flames of hatred is only going to result in more outrageous feminists on youtubes and tumblr alike.
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zappa, do you have more to say than that?
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Yes. There is no one feminist doctrine. The people who call themselves feminists do not agree on a lot of shit. There are the absolute man haters and there are those who love men. There are those who want to be men and those who embrace what they perceive to be the feminine nature. The word has almost no meaning. There is no feminist movement. What is currently referenced as the feminist movement is a bunch of screeching whiny harpies demanding a bunch of bullshit. Women are half the population. They hold almost half the jobs and are in charge of a great deal of the economy just through spending. Men are mocked as morons regularly in advertising and entertainment. Women? Not so much. Just like the Negro they need to stop whining
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Something is wrong with you if you're capable of looking at feminists like that, but apparently Negro is a race with hard rules that seperate them from other people.
Want to take another stab at defining that one? Add to the list?
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Haven't you gotten your ass handed to you enough on that race thing?
If you think that there is a consensus on what is feminism then you are either blind, ignorant, completely uninformed or so arrogant that you think you, a man, can tell women what it means. Ignorance or chauvinism. Pick one.
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agreed, on the aspect of being misrepresented, as WOMEN; and men as well, intrinsically within the "feminist" movement. i'd like for that "movement" to go towards what feminism should be about, and that is political science, and sure philosophy, but not about silly shit; you can make any thing a philosophical quandary, but the thing is, is it realistic or just hypothetical? these days, alot of the philosophy on feminism and woman's "rights" are grossly mismanaged and deformed and not realistic and especially so, even relevant. twisting of narrative to fit some deranged agenda.
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moonrockmushy said: apparently Negro is a race with hard rules that seperate them from other people.
Want to take another stab at defining that one? Add to the list?
black people aren't setting themselves apart well in terms of the sociological and philosophical definition they provide for, some take their proclamation's too far.
not all, in fact not even the majority at this point, in my opinion, but to be exacting, i'd say more than 60%, approximately, do not have the educated opinion of those whom do understand that 1: slavery doesn't directly (and i mean directly) effect their live's anymore and 2: that they're opinion's matter more in the court of public opinion than in the fighting against other coalition's and group's of people, for their own divide of black vs "The man" mentality.
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Again, I decide what consensus on a word is by consulting the dictionary, I guess that makes me a radical.
Yeah I had my ass handed to be. That's exactly what happened. Keep handing me my ass so people can know how you really think.
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