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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: rxb]
    #21863448 - 06/27/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i've been married before. it's not that much of a break. some things are easier and less expensive, but it's not like you get hitched and they hand you the world. i keep forgetting the age of the average poster here.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: rxb]
    #21863453 - 06/27/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My one question is this, "Why in the fuxk youanybody care what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms?".  It's so controlling and Frankly pointless. Even the original colonists were well known sodomists, they were just so uptight about it.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21863459 - 06/27/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i dunno... i think if you commit sodomy you must somehow get free shit.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21863461 - 06/27/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because the religious right believes that their belief system is more important than the rifts of anyone else.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21863469 - 06/27/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

im a fan of sodomy


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21863471 - 06/27/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That Aristotlean "yes/no" Logic baffles me to no end!


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21863473 - 06/27/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My one question is this, "Why in the fuxk youanybody care what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms?".  It's so controlling and Frankly pointless. Even the original colonists were well known sodomists, they were just so uptight about it.




it's really difficult for some people to reconcile the fact that everyone has different standards as far as what's morally acceptable. it's probably more comfortable to try to impose your morality on someone else rather than accept that they live on different terms.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: millzy]
    #21863479 - 06/27/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

religion is not morality.

many religions pretend to be moral, none are.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: rxb]
    #21863502 - 06/27/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Buddhists seem to have a good handle on it scientifically speaking IMHO.  But so do Discordians. But that's a whole other can of worms.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21863509 - 06/27/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Well Obama evolved :grin: if only others could do the same.  He declared this a victory for the people.  He is free to be a religious bigot, or pander to religious people.  I didn't vote for him, I was really only driven into his loving arms by confronting the realistic alternative.






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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: rxb]
    #21863518 - 06/27/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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religion is not morality.

many religions pretend to be moral, none are.




one of religion's primary areas of concerns is ethics, an ordering or aligning of the virtues. ethical systems frame moral standards. therefore religion does produce at least a type of morality. but the faculty to engage in moral thinking and behavior is likely predicated on biology.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21863519 - 06/27/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Because the religious right believes that their belief system is more important than the rifts of anyone else.





could you define 'religious right' for us?


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: millzy]
    #21863532 - 06/27/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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millzy said:
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rxb said:
religion is not morality.

many religions pretend to be moral, none are.




one of religion's primary areas of concerns is ethics, an ordering or aligning of the virtues. ethical systems frame moral standards. therefore religion does produce at least a type of morality. but the faculty to engage in moral thinking and behavior is likely predicated on biology.




by that logic... then christian hatrid is moral.

jonestown massacre ... must have been moral.

religions are just things made up to organize and control people, some in nice ways some in mean ways...

but they arent moral, they are self serving.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21863642 - 06/27/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Well Obama evolved :grin: if only others could do the same.  He declared this a victory for the people.  He is free to be a religious bigot, or pander to religious people.  I didn't vote for him, I was really only driven into his loving arms by confronting the realistic alternative.






pandering isnt evolving




And questioning the reasons behind why someone says what they say isn't proving anything.  I believe even if he has a religious background his civil rights background also puts him in a pretty good place to at least have a balanced view on this subject.  Of course like alot of people in many ways I wish he went further in support of the people, and I think to some extent this issue is being used to detract from more important causes, but it is also a reason for celebration. 

I don't even like the idea of marriage from the start, but I believe this will make people happy and hurt noone so that is good.  People are saying "oh this happened so quick!" but to so many of us it is like "why is this even still an issue?".


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: rxb]
    #21863649 - 06/27/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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by that logic... then christian hatrid is moral.

jonestown massacre ... must have been moral.

religions are just things made up to organize and control people, some in nice ways some in mean ways...

but they arent moral, they are self serving.




it's hatred from your point of view. it's a massacre from your point of view. from (some) christians' point of view it's compassion because they think they're saving people from themselves. from the jonestown cult's point of view they were making a mass exodus into another life. however crazy you (and i) may think any religion's moral standards is irrelevant to the fact that they are moral standards. and to be clear, i'm not arguing moral relativism, at least not in an absolute sense. it seems obvious that different cultures produce different sets of values, at least to a certain degree. but there does seem to be universal moral absolutes that frame the human mind and the societies that follow from it. for example, you will never find a society where murder is acceptable. the definition of murder may vary in societies, from capital punishment to war to cannibalism, but you will never find any society where unlawful killing is permitted.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21863718 - 06/27/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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My one question is this, "Why in the fuxk youanybody care what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms?".  It's so controlling and Frankly pointless. Even the original colonists were well known sodomists, they were just so uptight about it.





thats exactly why it shouldn't have become a law, keep your shit in your bedroom and fuck off.  This is all just a cry for attention, the gays are trying to spread gayness onto everyone else, just like feminism, just like black handouts, just like racism, everyone has an agenda and everyone trys to push it on everyone else.

Meanwhile some of us, just want left the fuck alone, take your penis and keep it in the closet, why the fuck do i have to get in the closet with you and watch for?


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: millzy]
    #21863789 - 06/27/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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rxb said:
by that logic... then christian hatrid is moral.

jonestown massacre ... must have been moral.

religions are just things made up to organize and control people, some in nice ways some in mean ways...

but they arent moral, they are self serving.




it's hatred from your point of view. it's a massacre from your point of view. from (some) christians' point of view it's compassion because they think they're saving people from themselves. from the jonestown cult's point of view they were making a mass exodus into another life. however crazy you (and i) may think any religion's moral standards is irrelevant to the fact that they are moral standards. and to be clear, i'm not arguing moral relativism, at least not in an absolute sense. it seems obvious that different cultures produce different sets of values, at least to a certain degree. but there does seem to be universal moral absolutes that frame the human mind and the societies that follow from it. for example, you will never find a society where murder is acceptable. the definition of murder may vary in societies, from capital punishment to war to cannibalism, but you will never find any society where unlawful killing is permitted.




exactly thats why its not morality. its simply religion.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21863933 - 06/27/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

LoL, That was one of the funniest things I've read around here in quite some time.

Gotta be careful with the cooties, man. 99% of women have it and it's highly contagious.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: rxb]
    #21864017 - 06/27/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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exactly thats why its not morality. its simply religion.




my point is that claiming that religion does not produce true moral standards because those standards are sometimes relative rather than absolute is incorrect. morality is both relative and absolute, and even relative morality is still morality by its definition and nature (that is what morality is and what it does, or seeks to do). i would say though that religion does seem to present its moral standards as absolute when often (but not always) they are relative.


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Re: gay marriage is legal now [Re: Sheekle]
    #21864045 - 06/27/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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chiefmaster tried to gay marry me in private text today



I will tooo
cause dat marraige isDtru luv

if you r not married it iz not trooo luvvv
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