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OfflineBeanhead
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Congratulations America
    #21859179 - 06/26/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not that I see any benefit in marriage other then falling into a different tax bracket.

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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Beanhead]
    #21859190 - 06/26/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. Now how about single people get a fucking tax break now and then?

Not only are we lonely and get none, We have to pay more taxes too.

Fucking sucks


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Beanhead]
    #21859205 - 06/26/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Not that I see any benefit in marriage other then falling into a different tax bracket.






there are far more benefits than taxes, the most important is that gay people can
no longer be treated as second class citizens by the government


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Patlal]
    #21859215 - 06/26/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah. Now how about single people get a fucking tax break now and then?

Not only are we lonely and get none, We have to pay more taxes too.

Fucking sucks





I get about 7x more back in taxes than I pay in, WTF are you talking about

maybe if you're getting fucked so hard by canada you should move to mexico


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #21859220 - 06/26/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah. Now how about single people get a fucking tax break now and then?

Not only are we lonely and get none, We have to pay more taxes too.

Fucking sucks





I get about 7x more back in taxes than I pay in, WTF are you talking about





You fucking socialist mooch


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Patlal]
    #21859221 - 06/26/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whoopdee fucking doo good job doing nothing again government. Jimini Christmas fix the goddam country assholes enough of the bullshit :facepalm:


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Patlal]
    #21859229 - 06/26/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Yeah. Now how about single people get a fucking tax break now and then?

Not only are we lonely and get none, We have to pay more taxes too.

Fucking sucks





I get about 7x more back in taxes than I pay in, WTF are you talking about





You fucking socialist mooch





dont be jealous Nanook of the North


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21859234 - 06/26/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whoopdee fucking doo good job doing nothing again government. Jimini Christmas fix the goddam country assholes enough of the bullshit :facepalm:





you dont believe in equal protection of all citizens? even illegal aliens had
more protections than gay couples


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21859248 - 06/26/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Patlal said:
Yeah. Now how about single people get a fucking tax break now and then?

Not only are we lonely and get none, We have to pay more taxes too.

Fucking sucks





I get about 7x more back in taxes than I pay in, WTF are you talking about





You fucking socialist mooch





dont be jealous Nanook of the North




It will take a hell of a lot more than that to be jealous of an American.

Now back to the gays!


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21859259 - 06/26/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The whole thing was stupid from the beginning. Has anyone read the Constitution? My point however is there's a lot more pressing issues atm. We all know this was stupid fucking defence of marriage bullshit really was just drop it. The states were handling it.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21859271 - 06/26/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Around and around in a giant shit circle they'll prob repeal this in 5 year

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Re: Congratulations America [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21859277 - 06/26/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

clearly many states didnt read the constitution


what would be a more pressing issue, to ban the confederate flag, I mean 9 people
are shot so banning a flag is the way to go because flags kill millions


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21859298 - 06/26/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No that's an even bigger bullshit pile.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #21859307 - 06/26/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

then black lives matter must surely be the big issue


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21859328 - 06/26/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Black lives dont matter anymore than any other race are you saying we should work to propetuate racism?


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #21859493 - 06/26/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What's truly pathetic is that people need the government to endorse their marriage at all.  What a bunch of weasely shit suckers.  Who gives a fuck what the government thinks.  You don't need the government for you to make marriage vows with your spouse.  Get government out of marriage all together.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shins]
    #21859516 - 06/26/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure there's a whole book of reasons why the government needs to keep records on who's married to whom.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shins]
    #21859529 - 06/26/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What's truly pathetic is that people need the government to endorse their marriage at all.  What a bunch of weasely shit suckers.  Who gives a fuck what the government thinks.  You don't need the government for you to make marriage vows with your spouse.  Get government out of marriage all together.





Sure you could have always done that, but this legally recognizes it, meaning if your spouse dies, you inherit their property snd that sort of thing.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21859584 - 06/26/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Make them your primary beneficiary, and they do anyway.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: TopPmz]
    #21859820 - 06/26/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Serious question, chief, what are the more pressing issues?


Also, similar to what le canard said, if your partner gets in an accident being their spouse allows you to be there in their room as family, and not have to wait in the waiting room, also being able to make decisions for them if they're incapacitated, there are a ton on reasons why it's important they're able to be recognized as wed.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21859840 - 06/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shins said:
What's truly pathetic is that people need the government to endorse their marriage at all.  What a bunch of weasely shit suckers.  Who gives a fuck what the government thinks.  You don't need the government for you to make marriage vows with your spouse.  Get government out of marriage all together.





Sure you could have always done that, but this legally recognizes it, meaning if your spouse dies, you inherit their property snd that sort of thing.





wait so marriage is all about collecting property that wasn't yours, oh wait i think i already knew that


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21859898 - 06/26/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shins said:
What's truly pathetic is that people need the government to endorse their marriage at all.  What a bunch of weasely shit suckers.  Who gives a fuck what the government thinks.  You don't need the government for you to make marriage vows with your spouse.  Get government out of marriage all together.





Sure you could have always done that, but this legally recognizes it, meaning if your spouse dies, you inherit their property snd that sort of thing.






So it comes down to money not love.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shins]
    #21859910 - 06/26/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:facepalm:
It comes down to a ton of things.

Equal rights being paramount.
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Also, similar to what le canard said, if your partner gets in an accident being their spouse allows you to be there in their room as family, and not have to wait in the waiting room, also being able to make decisions for them if they're incapacitated, there are a ton on reasons why it's important they're able to be recognized as wed.




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Re: Congratulations America [Re: shLong] * 1
    #21859930 - 06/26/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Equal rights to tax breaks and inheritance, that's pretty much it.  In my opinion no one should get that stuff at all.  Now single people should be complaining about unequal rights because they don't get the same tax breaks.


the government never prevented gay peoples right to marry, they just refused to endorse it, which is different.  People should not need government endorsement in order to fo things, that's just pathetic.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Beanhead] * 1
    #21859934 - 06/26/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good stuff. Now they just need to legalize all drugs and a few other pressing issues and we will be well on our way.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shroomism]
    #21859944 - 06/26/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

tho technically gays could have made wills to take care of the free property, i guess what they are really fighting for is the ability to trick people into thinking they love them because they know they wouldn't get them to write the will

marriage should be abolished.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shins]
    #21859950 - 06/26/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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People should not need government endorsement in order to fo things, that's just pathetic.



I completely agree, but sadly, it's the way it is.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shroomism]
    #21859966 - 06/26/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Good stuff. Now they just need to legalize all drugs and a few other pressing issues and we will be well on our way.




Drug legalizing is far from being a pressing issue. It's simply a symptom of a bigger problem


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Patlal]
    #21859985 - 06/26/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wait no way dewd  its super important issue in regard to personal freedoms. I mean I believe the right to alter ones own consciousness to be inalienable:ancientaliens:


Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (06/26/15 01:07 PM)


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: shLong]
    #21859991 - 06/26/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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People should not need government endorsement in order to fo things, that's just pathetic.



I completely agree, but sadly, it's the way it is.




Speak for yourself.

however on average you are right.  Most americand are brean dead zombies that need the government to tell them when its ok to think or act, which like I said is pathetic.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shins]
    #21859995 - 06/26/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Jesus Christ...

I'm talking about shit that has to be endorsed for it to go in to action.. Not whatever the fuck you're implying.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shroomism]
    #21860009 - 06/26/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Good stuff. Now they just need to legalize all drugs and a few other pressing issues and we will be well on our way.




Yup, i'd not be so depressed if I could just grow a goddamn plant & brew some GDAMN GHB : :stircauldron:
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Good stuff. Now they just need to legalize all drugs and a few other pressing issues and we will be well on our way.




Yeah i'd be a whole lot happier in life if I could just tend a few plants -_-


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Shins]
    #21860016 - 06/26/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Child custody was a part of that mess too I think. It's easier for two married people to share custody of a child than it is for two unmarried people (assuming it's not their biological child). I remember hearing about some gay couples having issues with adoption or something like that. Marriage is about a little more than just money.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21860041 - 06/26/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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clearly many states didnt read the constitution


what would be a more pressing issue, to ban the confederate flag, I mean 9 people
are shot so banning a flag is the way to go because flags kill millions




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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21862963 - 06/27/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Child custody was a part of that mess too I think. It's easier for two married people to share custody of a child than it is for two unmarried people (assuming it's not their biological child). I remember hearing about some gay couples having issues with adoption or something like that. Marriage is about a little more than just money.



I don't know that this ruling is binding on private citizens.  If I don't want to make a wedding cake for two dykes I shouldn't have to.  This shit aint over by a long shot


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21863021 - 06/27/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But it's a step in the right direction. Sure they might not make a cake, but businesses who've done that crap recently have been fucked . One small business got boycotted until they got into bankruptcy. Attitudes will change eventually.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Achillita]
    #21863042 - 06/27/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It wasn't the boycott that drove them out.  It was the lawsuits.  That should have been summarily dismissed.


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    #21863043 - 06/27/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

and if i recall they also did a kickstarter or something and actually raised a bunch of money as well


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21863049 - 06/27/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, at least one of them did and then kickstarter shut the fund down.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Achillita] * 1
    #21863060 - 06/27/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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But it's a step in the right direction. Sure they might not make a cake, but businesses who've done that crap recently have been fucked . One small business got boycotted until they got into bankruptcy. Attitudes will change eventually.




"you may not agree with our lifestyle but you WILL make our cake/cater. Lest we protest, picket and threaten your livelihood"

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Re: Congratulations America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21863061 - 06/27/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that sounds really political for kickstarter to do, how are they going to dictate what gets funded and what doesnt if its legal?


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21863074 - 06/27/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It was political and they are cowards


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    #21863079 - 06/27/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If they said they wouldn't serve black people, or any race actually, then it would have been met with much more outcry than what it was.

Saying you won't do something for someone because you don't like them personally. Okay I understand. Exclaiming you won't accept their business because of something that they can't really help, is just being either ignorant, or just a dick.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Achillita]
    #21863090 - 06/27/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think it should be perfectly legal and absent from civil liability for people to be racist sexist assholes.  The government should not be the sanctioning entity.


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    #21863094 - 06/27/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think GoFundMe had grounds to stop the funding. At that point it became a legal issue and they said it violated their terms and conditions. But personally, I think that even if that's a lie to make it sound good, they were in the right area.


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Re: Congratulations America [Re: Achillita]
    #21863096 - 06/27/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If they said they wouldn't serve black people, or any race actually, then it would have been met with much more outcry than what it was.

Saying you won't do something for someone because you don't like them personally. Okay I understand. Exclaiming you won't accept their business because of something that they can't really help, is just being either ignorant, or just a dick.




Forcing your position in someone's face who doesn't want your business is being a dick. If a homosexual couple is so put off by being refused they can take their business else were. The cases being referenced are not about fighting for the cause, its just about looking for a fight.


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    #21863110 - 06/27/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think GoFundMe had grounds to stop the funding. At that point it became a legal issue and they said it violated their terms and conditions. But personally, I think that even if that's a lie to make it sound good, they were in the right area.




There was no legal issue.  There was public opprobrium.  They are balless PC cowards.  But then again, it would be hypocritical for me to say they can't do whatever the fuck they want with their business if I say you shouldn't have to make a cake for a homo.


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    #21863125 - 06/27/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

also its well known that alot of gays are actually created through culture and conditioning, fact is they can change, you arn't bound to sucking cocks, just like you arn't bound to eating cheerio's everyday.  If you can be conditioned to like penis, you can also be conditioned to not like them, or at the very least to enjoy vagina's as well.  People just pretend and hide from all that because they'd rather just feel special, which rounds out another point, being gay is really just a cry for help, they should be institutionalized and treated instead.

Think about it, from a science and evolutionary point of view, its horrible that we have gays, it taints our gene pool with people that do nothing to further our race and species.

which brings me back to my previous point, 99% arn't born gay, the proof is, with gay marriage, they should all fucking disapear now as they will be wiped from the gene pool as less of them will be forcing themselves straight right???  yet for some reason i don't see that happening, for some reason i get the feeling there is just going to be more and more gays until there arn't any straights left just because its the "PC" or "modern" thing to do to fit in or w/e, it just seems more like a 'movement' to me.  speaking of which im a bit plugged up right now, if i was gay i wouldn't need a laxitive, see its bad for the economy too


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    #21863132 - 06/27/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, personally I think that the lesbian couple with the bakery turned it into a cash grab. I mean really 185,000 dollars from a small bakery? But I am saying that equal rights is a thing that we need to acknowledge.

About 50 years ago, black people were fighting for equality. They would sit in "white" areas and not only stay on the black side. Some could say they were "forcing their position" if they really wanted to. But they were fighting for the equal rights that everyone should get.

I don't see why a gay person can be turned away from a store, but a black person can't be. It's inequality.


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    #21863156 - 06/27/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay hold up makaveli. There's been quite a few experiments that have shown that sexual orientation isn't completely a choice. I know a few gay people who were conditioned to be straight, and then chastised by their own parents for being gay.

They aren't pretending. And there have been quite a few theories and evidence that homosexuality exists for a reason in evolution. I mean there are thousands of animals that practice homosexuality. Only humans have ever hated homosexuality so much.


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    #21863165 - 06/27/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

your right, they should be able to turn black people away if they want to as well.  If you don't like someone in your place, u should be able to tell them to GTFO, whites included.  Thats why you see all this shit like that uber story happening, they think they have a free card to be assholes.  And assholes aside, if you have had bad experiences with a group of people, you are technically tramatized from the experience, you should and i think right now even, a smart person could pull that tramatized card to ban certain sets of people from their store, would be tough but i could see it happening.

If the police are allowed to profile, why can't buisnesses do the same thing


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    #21863182 - 06/27/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Okay hold up makaveli. There's been quite a few experiments that have shown that sexual orientation isn't completely a choice. I know a few gay people who were conditioned to be straight, and then chastised by their own parents for being gay.

They aren't pretending. And there have been quite a few theories and evidence that homosexuality exists for a reason in evolution. I mean there are thousands of animals that practice homosexuality. Only 2 species have ever hated homosexuality so much. Humans and some rare species of monkey in Africa.




read what i wrote closer, i realize its a drug site but this shit has been happening way to often on here, i said 99%.

but ok, ill defend something i didn't say anyway just because.  Since society conditions people, you have no way, no scientific proof that isn't manipulated by outside sources that could prove that gays are just born that way.

the only way is if you put a bunch of babies in rooms from birth and watched them their entire lives, but we all know human experimentation's are illegal, therefor its obvious no proof of such exists.

now if your saying some people are born with extra Y or w/e the fuck chromosomes, then id say they are just women that look like guys, henceforth they arn't gay, they are just ugly fucking women


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    #21863187 - 06/27/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean there are thousands of animals that practice homosexuality. Only humans have ever hated homosexuality so much.




humans are the only ones that use lube, something tells me its fairly rare in animals, and that they hate it MUCH more than we do, considering its the worst form of rape

ALSO big point here, its not gay if your ontop, and the one on bottom doesn't want it to happen, henceforth i delcare being gay in animals to be NONEXISTANT:drwario:  and more proof to that, u never see fucking lesbian animals, ill leave room for one exception MAYBE in primates.


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    #21863214 - 06/27/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Criminal profiling and racial profiling are two very different things. Being LGBT isn't racial, but it applies to the same category.

You can kick someone out of a private business if they are causing trouble or for another reason. But you can't discriminate based on  race, color, religion, or national origin. THis is according to Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. At the moment this doesn't include any LGBT, but it'll most likely be amended in the future.

Also, being homosexual was actually pretty common in the world before the church outlawed it in the middle ages. Before then it was commonplace in europe, and remained accepted in china, and especially japan. Only when western culture came, did they decide it was shameful or bad.


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    #21863232 - 06/27/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

actually they are exactly the same thing, you are treating a common set of traits different than another common set of traits, the only difference is who is doing it and why, which as we all know, is also sometimes not different.

If criminal profiling didn't exist, police wouldn't be hated nearly as much as they are, henceforth, its exactly like racial profiling


also if you've been tramatized by gays in the past, or races for that matter, they are causing a disturbance to you and your emotions, like i said a smart lawyer would maybe be able to pull that off in court that it was a disturbance because of their race and therefor legal to not serve


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    #21863236 - 06/27/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dolphins, primates, birds, and elephants have all been shown to have lesbian love. Actually homosexuality is pretty common amongst many species of birds.

And you don't need to watch over a human's life in a controlled environment to understand whether or not being gay is natural. You can look at many animals, which humans are. Countless animal species have homoseual tendecies. Much of the programming that humans have, is reminiscent in many animals.


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    #21863260 - 06/27/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh, personally I think that the lesbian couple with the bakery turned it into a cash grab. I mean really 185,000 dollars from a small bakery? But I am saying that equal rights is a thing that we need to acknowledge.

About 50 years ago, black people were fighting for equality. They would sit in "white" areas and not only stay on the black side. Some could say they were "forcing their position" if they really wanted to. But they were fighting for the equal rights that everyone should get.

I don't see why a gay person can be turned away from a store, but a black person can't be. It's inequality.




In my personal private business I can turn away anyone for any reason. Should that reason ever become public I would have to deal with the consequences. If I turned down a homosexual couple, and they were mad enough, the reasonable response would be a boycott, or take their business elsewhere. Retaliate against my business in the marketplace, not with lawsuits and the heavy fist of government.


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    #21863262 - 06/27/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

naw thats bullshit, not scientific at all, you can't say being gay is natural.  i already proved how its not actually.  and your lesbian examples are questionable to me, as birds and dolphins have their organs on the inside it forces them to do an oil check which isn't a fair example.  The primates and elephants are good examples and i left one of those as an exception and the other i hadn't thought about but im going to have to watch some lesbian elephant porn now

but back to the point if you try to say being gay is natural which i made a pretty good argument that its actually rape most of the time, then well rape is natural as well and should be legalized too


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    #21863339 - 06/27/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It's illegal to refuse business to someone based on their race, gender, religion, or nationality. It's technically legal to refuse business to gays atm though. The law will probably be updated to include LGBT soon though.

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I have 2 female parakeets that have sex together often. And just saying that rape is natural and therefore should be legal is idiotic. Rape is a forceful sexual act on someone who doesn't want it. Rape is harming someone, physically and emotionally.

It's like saying murder is natural, so we should have it be legal. It's harming someone else. Someone being gay isn't harming you whatsoever. I was pointing out that being gay has evolutionary purpose, and has something to do with genes. Even though genes don't effect it completely. It is a natural thing, that truly causes no harm to anyone.

Homosexuality has existed in every single human culture since we have began recording history, and probably much longer before that. It is more than just people wanting to be different. It's something that has actual basis. I could have sex with another man, but I couldn't just become gay one day. It's homosexual act, but I'm still not attracted to men.


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    #21863678 - 06/27/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

letting someone become gay because its PC and more accepting in my opinion is just as harmful as rape if not moreso.  Your letting them live an entire life like that.  In my mind its society giving up on them.  "oh you don't fit in, ok go stand over there if you want you'll fit in over there"  then the culture builds them into full blown gay.  An entire life ruined, weither they see it that way or not.  Its like the frog in the kettle, he goes in warm, and he doesn't notice he's burning down the road sort of thing, they never really know what they left behind, what they could have and most likely should have become.

Cultural acceptance of gays lets people take the easy way out, just because they don't fit in at school, there voice is a little different, they act a little different, those little things don't make a person gay,


its what society does to them because of it, that makes them gay, and you should feel sick and disgusted that your part of that and making that happen.  Its one thing for someone to be truely gay, its another to be actively supporting it and creating it and thats what being so open about it does. 

Your not supposed to have sex till 18 anyway, so why are we grooming kids in fucking elementry and middle school to be gay and when they hit highschool they are giving blowjobs.  There brains are 2 small to even know what gay is, all they want is sex.  Thats what im saying, thats why im saying gay is a fucking choice, your 2 birds having sex its not because they had a choice its because you have them locked in a cage all day, just like prison, you lock them in a cage they suddenly are gay?  NO wake up your logic don't make sense, you don't go to prision and magically your gay YOUR BORN GAY REMEMBER, you just prove my points for me dude


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    #21863769 - 06/27/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The thing is there is a male bird in the cage as well, and they'll interact with him, but they ate with each other exclusively.

It's not us molding young minds into thinking they are gay or some stupid thing like that. It's as simple as if you find the same gender attractive.

I have a question for you, do you find women attractive sexually?  Do you find men attractive sexually?

To a degree you can consider it a choice, but what they find sexually attractive is not as easy as "oh I just wanna be gay". Acting like being gay is wrong and not normal is what ostracizes many gay people.

It's the fact people view them differently. Being "weird" doesn't make someone gay. I've known people who were decently popular in highschool and middle school and still turned out to be gay. I was an outcast throughout much of middle school, and I am not homosexual.


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    #21863856 - 06/27/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

what your leaving out is that culture tells you what you find attractive.......


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    #21863860 - 06/27/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

To some extent but not entirely


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    #21863891 - 06/27/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If it were truly the culture which completely defined whether you were gay or not, there wouldn't have been gay people the past 200 years. Because it was looked down upon so much.

Culture does effect some areas of attraction. But it's been shown that a lot of what attracts two people to one another is smell. homosexual couples have been shown to react the same way to each other's scent the same way heterosexual couples react.


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    #21863908 - 06/27/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1 example is tv ad's, companys spend billions trying to tell you whats attractive, they wouldn't throw all that money down the drain for nothing, clearly people are manipulated easily if all it takes is a 30 second tv ad


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    #21863937 - 06/27/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's physical attraction. It's been shown that scent is much more influential in human relationships. But, excluding that fact. I don't see any ads pushing heterosexuality or homosexuality. They show off a body and clothes and that's it.

It does effect our societal views of beauty, but it isn't changing us to be gay or lesbian. Both sexes are sexualized a lot by fashion media, because that's what fashion relies on. But sexual orientation is a much different thing.


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