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Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is
    #21858980 - 06/26/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone been talking about him and how great he is.  I know zero about him.  I need all info.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: teamkiller] * 3
    #21858990 - 06/26/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A better candidate than sHillary Clinton.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: ChinChiller] * 2
    #21858991 - 06/26/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The best candidate running


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: teamkiller]
    #21859009 - 06/26/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He's a socialist. The unapologetically left think he's great, but most of the Democrats are reluctantly endorsing Clinton because she is perceived as moderate and therefore more electable. She is also more or less iron clad, she and her husband have more than proven themselves capable of rising above major scandals and driving votes on the national scale.

Call me jaded, but even though I believe in his socialist underpinnings, I just don't really give a shit about Bernie Sanders. We can hope that he will succeed at driving Democratic primary debates to the left, but IMO Hillary is a juggernaut and Sanders can't challenge her seriously, he can only dampen left-wing enthusiasm for her solidly centrist, corporatist platform, and tip the overall scale toward her Republican opponent.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #21859024 - 06/26/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hilary is a joke on face value simple as fucking that.  Anyone who votes Hilary is a feminist female.  Or Bill Clinton.  Bernie will win the primary.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21859053 - 06/26/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He obviously will not.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Webster10]
    #21859075 - 06/26/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Like I said, I align with Bernie's principles but am under no delusion that he will succeed. He is too fringey.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: The Doobie Dude] * 1
    #21859077 - 06/26/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think Bernie's got a lot of great ideas.  He has been involved in the American government for quite some time as an Independent. 

I see a Catch 22 here, though.  He is running for president under the Democratic banner.  I think to really reform things, one would have to work outside of the mainstream 2-party system that has been overly corrupted by corporate interests and lobbying.  Yet, when public candidate debates and discussions occur, there are measures in place to exclude independent voices.



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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Dilsnique]
    #21859088 - 06/26/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's interesting because Bernie is a registered independent. I didn't know you could just run on a party platform even if you didn't belong to that party in the first place.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21859135 - 06/26/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If Charlie Crist could change parties between terms (which he did), I don't see why Bernie wouldn't be able to run for a party he doesn't represent.

^This is our political system, people! What the fuck!?


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Dilsnique]
    #21859174 - 06/26/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think Bernie's got a lot of great ideas.  He has been involved in the American government for quite some time as an Independent.





isnt one of his ideas to get rid of the career politicians?

isnt bernie a career politician?
why hasnt bernie set the example by stepping down?


bernie is a retard along the lines of a 6 day creationist, science means
nothing to him, he blames the failure of GMO labeling legislation on the
biotech industry's influence over congress when in reality issues like this
merely show that politicians like sander are pandering to a minority group that
has no understanding of the subject but are in most cases only objectionable to
a company making a profit just as sanders is. now if sanders is so obsesses
with not making money, why hasnt he traded his congressional pay for a handful
of magic beans. when you look at sanders' voting record you will see that he's
the same big government all up in your shit, spend thrift politician that
everyone complains about

why do people keep insisting we vote for the same in every election

I'm all for sanders running for president, at least there he has no real power
and with some luck, maybe sanders will be out of the senate for good so that he
stop tarding up the works with his dark ages economic policies


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: TopPmz]
    #21859177 - 06/26/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've got the feeling it has already been decided it will be Clinton.
Still, I could be wrong. :shrug:


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21859195 - 06/26/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've got the feeling it has already been decided it will be Clinton.
Still, I could be wrong. :shrug:





that was said in 2008 when she was ahead of obama in the primaries but the
backroom deals that had her pulling out so that obama could take the spotlight
are also what landed her as secretary of state


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21859206 - 06/26/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The Democratic candidate will most certainly be Clinton.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21859370 - 06/26/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Turtletotem said:
I've got the feeling it has already been decided it will be Clinton.
Still, I could be wrong. :shrug:





that was said in 2008 when she was ahead of obama in the primaries but the
backroom deals that had her pulling out so that obama could take the spotlight
are also what landed her as secretary of state




But I did not say that in 2008.
Anyway, just a feeling, nothing to take serious.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: teamkiller]
    #21859738 - 06/26/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the republican and democratic nominees are yet again, terrible.

i'll be voting Libertarian... Gary Johnson is the clear presidential candidate here. I mean shit, the man climbed Mount Everest. If that's not an indication of his ability to commit to matters he holds close, i don't know what is.

i'll agree with sophist here on Hilary though... i just don't feel her party platform can deliver what this country truly needs right now. (same with the republican platform)


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21859864 - 06/26/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He's said that he wouldn't mind capital gains taxes returning to 90%


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Webster10]
    #21859981 - 06/26/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd advocate 70%, myself, but I admire his all-or-nothing spirit. Too bad it's completely impractical and wing nutty.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21860006 - 06/26/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The good: Sincere, for the common man, will make life for the poor, disabled, and elderly better.

The bad: Nonstop talk about "tax the rich" as if it will do anything to reduce the deficit; nonstop talk about global warming and the environment.


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Re: Can someone tell me who bernie sanders is [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21860008 - 06/26/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



I like him


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