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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: WAN]
    #21875414 - 06/29/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Definition of orphan disease:  https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=a_ORVebwDsOE8QeV7YC4Bg#q=orphan+disease+definition

Don't take it literally.  It does NOT mean diseases that only orphans can get.




LOL, I snuck a little joke in there hoping someone would notice.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21875423 - 06/29/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What's the joke?


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21875430 - 06/29/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Definition of orphan disease:  https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=a_ORVebwDsOE8QeV7YC4Bg#q=orphan+disease+definition

Don't take it literally.  It does NOT mean diseases that only orphans can get.




LOL, I snuck a little joke in there hoping someone would notice.



haha...I was too dense to figure out your joke..what can I say, English is not my first language


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: tripN]
    #21875470 - 06/29/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>What's the joke?

Saying orphan drugs are just for children with no parents. Not a great joke, just a little one.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21875474 - 06/29/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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>What's the joke?

Saying orphan drugs are just for children with no parents. Not a great joke, just a little one.



stone is soo cute


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: WAN]
    #21875523 - 06/29/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha, far out.

Is the argument here done?

We can talk about the gay marriage thing. Some people don't like it for some reason.

Today a lesbian couple came to my shop looking for wedding rings. They pissed me off, not because there getting married or are lesbians.

One was a 9/10 the other a 8/10 both smokin' hot. Just makes me feel sad that no man is going to get any of that, they got my number I hope they call me for ......... But that's a dream.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: tripN]
    #21876615 - 06/30/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Married or not you weren't going to have any of it.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: tripN]
    #21876912 - 06/30/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation.



I don't think ANYONE here believes people who CHOOSE not to work should be paid a dollar.  The argument is that people who work full time shouldn't live in poverty, so that their CEOs can afford a 10th luxury car.

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That is true very true. If taxes are over 50% why should I work when I could just live on the dole?



The rich can choose to keep 50% of $1 million, or 100% of $10,000.  I know which one I'd take.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21877019 - 06/30/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tripN your tax rate will never be 50% because you'll never be rich.

why do you fight against your own interests?


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21877415 - 06/30/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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tripN your tax rate will never be 50% because you'll never be rich.

why do you fight against your own interests?




believe it or not some people have beliefs that are independent of self interest.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: psyconaught]
    #21877440 - 06/30/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty obvious that I believe it based on the question I asked.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21877458 - 06/30/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:cheersyoufuck:


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: sweeper54]
    #21877468 - 06/30/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Married or not you weren't going to have any of it.





Amen they were out of my league!


I don't think ANYONE here believes people who CHOOSE not to work should be paid a dollar.  The argument is that people who work full time shouldn't live in poverty, so that their CEOs can afford a 10th luxury car.

Working full time (40+ hours) for minimum wage is just that, minimum, what do you expect out off a walmart or mcdonalds style business a 401k, health insurgence and 2 wreaks paid vacation?

Truth is those are starter jobs a year of that under the belt and you should be able to get a better job, if our economy wasn't SOL but that's the last 7-8 years. Just to be clear that started under bush with fanney and Freddy so nobody is innocent on that.

Think about this, if you force the rich guys to pay more they'll just hire less and/or charge more, then were back in the same spot.

Your pay goes up and so did your expenses.

Where I live there are a lot of illegal aliens they work like hell and after 20 years they are home owners or higher ups of the businesses they work for.

If you live with the bear essentials and save hard on a minimum wage, the worker can get higher education and then be paid more, invest in the market, or use that money to make more.

It takes money to make money

And no I'm not taxed 50% but if I was I truly would go fucking postal. No lie. sorry admin but that's the way I feel.

And if the lazy people should not get welfare why doesn't the government due a few audits here and there. The reason they lay around is that there free benefits from the government are great and they have no need to work. That brings us back to the real problem in welfare, thinking we can help the helpless.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: tripN]
    #21879253 - 06/30/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think ANYONE here believes people who CHOOSE not to work should be paid a dollar.  The argument is that people who work full time shouldn't live in poverty, so that their CEOs can afford a 10th luxury car.



Working full time (40+ hours) for minimum wage is just that, minimum, what do you expect out off a walmart or mcdonalds style business a 401k, health insurgence and 2 wreaks paid vacation?



Yes.  Employees in Europe get this, so why shouldn't we?  Are we not as good as they are anymore?

I find it odd that conservatives pretend they're upset with Obama for the current wage gap, while arguing for policies that make people even poorer.

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Think about this, if you force the rich guys to pay more they'll just hire less and/or charge more, then were back in the same spot.

Your pay goes up and so did your expenses.



I guess you weren't around for the lengthy discussions about how the libertarian CATO Institute showed that "a 10 percent increase in the U.S. minimum wage raises food prices by up to 4 percent and overall prices by up to 0.4 percent."  That's a bargain for low paid workers.

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And no I'm not taxed 50% but if I was I truly would go fucking postal. No lie. sorry admin but that's the way I feel.



So you'd prefer $10,000 untaxed to $1,000,000 taxed at 50%?  :shrug:

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And if the lazy people should not get welfare why doesn't the government due a few audits here and there. The reason they lay around is that there free benefits from the government are great and they have no need to work. That brings us back to the real problem in welfare, thinking we can help the helpless.



Again, no one here that I'm aware of is in favor of helping those who choose not to work.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21881955 - 07/01/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would like to add that the biggest employers in America are Wal-Mart
Yum brands - KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut
Then there's McDonalds up there in the top 3

So, our nations largest employers are notorious low wage jobs. think about that


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Citizen X]
    #21882940 - 07/01/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

First of all I would take the half a million.

One of the truest lessons in life for me is "it takes money to make money". Now if you come out with a million gross taxed 50% that means you have to be in that million for less than half a million or else your losing money. If my business made a million I would be in it for 850,000 to 900,000. So 1,000,000 - 50% = 500,000 - 850,000 = 350,000 in the hole.

Then I'm going bankrupt, losing my faith in working, onto the dole I'll go.

Why should we not force a business to give benefits?

Because an agreement was made you work ___ you get $___

Don't like it, that find a different place to work. And as previously mentioned our job market is in the crapper, the blame for that goes to every idiot politician that thinks we should regulate businesses therefor businesses are keeping costs as low as possible, no growth no new jobs.

Cato institute, good smart people but I trust the hard facts of history over any group of people.

When the minimum wage was created our money started its real decline in value. Yes it did happen before, right around the civil war I think. But we've been on an 80 year slide, slow but steady this is why investing in gold and silver have slow, but damn near guaranteed returns.

Minimum wage is not a bad idea we shouldn't have people that are practically slaves. But if you look at the working class lifestyle it is far from the bottom of the ladder. I believe if you work, save money for a few years to the point where your life is almost miserable, you can take that money and start a new path to a great life.

I employed a man that would spend all his money on payday, his life is still shity because he just doesn't think about the long term financials. One day I brought this up with him he agreed, but the next payday he did the same thing.

None of us know the roots of this, in the case I just talked about the man had used meth for years, I think he fryd his brain like chicken at KFC. Extra crunchy!


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: tripN]
    #21882973 - 07/01/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

One more thing.

Liberals and conservatives say "your wrong so I'm right" not so, there are hundreds if not more ways to try to solve these problems. And remember not everybody is the same and there is no one treatment to fix all.

IE. Grass give my friends the munches, but it makes me feel stuffed.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: tripN]
    #21883083 - 07/01/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>None of us know the roots of this, in the case I just talked about the man had used meth for years, I think he fryd his brain like chicken at KFC. Extra crunchy!

He will vote for hitlery.

Very true about govt meddling in business. Why do you think so many usa businesses have offshored production or moved headquarters offshore? To escape usa heavy taxes and onerous regulations. China approves.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21883138 - 07/01/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He will vote for hitlery


I gonna start using that now.


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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Citizen X]
    #21886129 - 07/02/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I would like to add that the biggest employers in America are Wal-Mart
Yum brands - KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut
Then there's McDonalds up there in the top 3

So, our nations largest employers are notorious low wage jobs. think about that



I'm thinking about that.  That means if all those people made more money, that would do amazing things to close the wage gap, and reduce poverty.


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