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kingbovril
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First attempt at growing E. novo from seed
#21857955 - 06/25/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I purchased the seeds a few weeks back, 5 in total. Planted them 2 weeks ago, set the heatmat to 80 degrees with a humidity lid and two growlights above. In the last few days, 3 of the five have finally sprouted, I have pictures posted below. One thing to note, though, is before I left on a weeklong vacation about a week and a half ago, I intentionally overwatered thinking no one would be able to water when I was gone. Luckily my brother was there to look after my plants and realized that I had watered even more than I thought I had, so the seeds were drenched for a good 3 days. Does anyone know if this possibly killed the other two seeds, or are E. novo pretty water tolerant?
All three sprouts

Close-up of the biggest sprout

And a close-up of the young-un
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#21858162 - 06/26/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not all seeds seem to come up at the same time in my experience. I get about 70% at once and then any others follow some days or weeks later. I doubt having them sit in water has done them harm.
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kingbovril
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: karode13]
#21858369 - 06/26/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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karode13 said: Not all seeds seem to come up at the same time in my experience. I get about 70% at once and then any others follow some days or weeks later. I doubt having them sit in water has done them harm.
Excellent! Thank you. Also, when should I remove the humidity lid? The sprouts are getting taller and are getting close to hitting it...
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cowsRmeat
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: karode13]
#21859254 - 06/26/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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karode13 said: Not all seeds seem to come up at the same time in my experience. I get about 70% at once and then any others follow some days or weeks later. I doubt having them sit in water has done them harm.

Also, you want to keep them in humidity at least until their seed coat comes off. The humidity helps with that. When they are young they don't like to get too dry, but once they have a few sets of leaves, you need to start tapering off with the water and let em dry a bit before watering. Novo is a little tricky because they need the moisture to sprout and shed their seed off the emerging cotyledons, but they are also at high risk of damping off. You have to find a balance.
Once your plants reach 4-5 inches high and are past that 'seedling' stage, you can relax some because their risk of damping off and being super delicate is going down quickly. Once they get older, they are easy to grow.
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21860513 - 06/26/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see 4 seedlings, not 3. There is one in the right corner that is just starting to show!
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kingbovril
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: Oggy]
#21862386 - 06/27/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oggy said: I see 4 seedlings, not 3. There is one in the right corner that is just starting to show!
Oh shit, you're right! Haha can't believe I missed that, thank you
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cowsRmeat
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: Oggy]
#21865616 - 06/27/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oggy said: I see 4 seedlings, not 3. There is one in the right corner that is just starting to show!
Good eye
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kingbovril
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#22191021 - 09/04/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update! (finally)...
So turns out that 5th seed never sprouted. Oh well, whatcha gonna do? 
So they've grown about 6 inches tall now, but they've started to fall over from their own weight. Is this normal? They've been toppled like this for a couple weeks now and seem otherwise healthy, so I'm really not too concerned.
A week ago I realized I should probably start fertilizing them, so I added some miracle gro blood meal fertilizer and mixed it in with a fork to also aerate the soil out a bit.
I'm pretty sure it's time to transfer these dudes into their own pots and take em' outside. I live in Southern California so it's still pretty warm here and I know they can't really stand cold temperature.
Also, what kind of soil should I use when I pot them? I'm sure it needs to be nutrient rich, but as for the exact composition, drainage and what specific nutrients are best for E. novo I'm not really sure.
Here's all four. As far as I can tell they look pretty healthy...

A close up

More of them together

And here's a close-up of one of the ones that have bent over... Is this normal?
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#22191727 - 09/05/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They are falling over because you did not use a fan at the earlier stage to strengthen the stem.
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cowsRmeat
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Mine did that too when they were that size. I just put a little skewer in the soil to prop it up on. It strengthened itself up and is doing fine now though. Those are about the size I notice they start really exploding with growth. The upcoming weeks should really surprise you with their sizes.
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kosmokratorshaman said: They are falling over because you did not use a fan at the earlier stage to strengthen the stem.
This has nothing to do stem strength. All e novos I've had have done the same regardless of fan or no fan. Thw breeze is suffice to strengthen stems but their strength comes later on in life.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: ferrel_human]
#22192721 - 09/05/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was just guessing
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ferrel_human
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You should really grow a novo kosmokratorshaman. It's an interesting plant to have and will thrive in the shade in out neck of the woods.
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kingbovril
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#22270867 - 09/21/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is the best kind of soil to use?
I'm potting them tomorrow and want to get/make the best soil possible. In terms of drainage, nutrient comp., etc. what's the best stuff to use?
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kingbovril
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#22271315 - 09/21/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I mean even just the simplest suggestion will suffice... I just want to grow these as best as I can
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#22271714 - 09/21/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im not an expert, but have some baby novos myself. After reading up I chose to put them in some used foxfarm from a previous maryjane grow, mixed with an additional 1/3 volume of perlite. I heard that as long as the soil is slightly acidic they'll be good. I water them with tap water ph balanced with some apple cider vinegar (rain water is a hassle around here).
Edit: I just realized that you were the person that commented on my thread a while back so I thought I'd come back and edit my comment... Feeling like a fool now 
Your plants are looking great man!
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kingbovril
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: dil8]
#22276558 - 09/22/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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dil8 said: Im not an expert, but have some baby novos myself. After reading up I chose to put them in some used foxfarm from a previous maryjane grow, mixed with an additional 1/3 volume of perlite. I heard that as long as the soil is slightly acidic they'll be good. I water them with tap water ph balanced with some apple cider vinegar (rain water is a hassle around here).
Edit: I just realized that you were the person that commented on my thread a while back so I thought I'd come back and edit my comment... Feeling like a fool now 
Your plants are looking great man!
Ha, thanks man. Your seedlings are really looking good too! Looks like they're getting to that phase where they start growing true leaves and stop being 'sprouts'.
Also, thanks for the reply. Glad to know someone on here knows what soil conditions are good for E. novo.
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Re: First attempt at growing E. novo from seed [Re: kingbovril]
#22279974 - 09/23/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just make sure it drains nicely. I mean, you definitely aren't mixing soil for cacti, but they like their roots to be able to take a breather in between waterings when they get a bit bigger.
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