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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21865045 - 06/27/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are welcome.  I will do so now, for 2 hours or so in nature.

I live on a small acreage. . . i noticed today, the grass seemed much taller. . . an interesting experience :smile:


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21865048 - 06/27/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

will share this link: https://books.google.com/books/about/Powers_Within.html?id=PdNiZFAcy0wC

one of the most profound books I have read, got it around 18 or 19; selections from Mirra Alfassa and Sri Aurobindo,

be back later.


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I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing                                                                                                                    Do Your Thing, Moondog                     
large  . . music garden . .  very
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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime] * 2
    #21865683 - 06/27/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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once in a lifetime said:
there's no need for fear, LE;

it's a temporary thing - it fades.

It's possible to leave it so far behind it becomes literally nothing.


You and I have similar views about some things, but we go about them differently, I feel.  We each feel that humans have destroyed too much of earth;

and that change needs to occur. . to get more into this might be outside of the scope of this thread, however.

one thing is - at the very basic nature, at the very essence of all of this - all is light;

seeing that, having seen it and continuing to go further, there are unlimited levels to it.




Actually, not all is light.  In fact, to truly see the light with open eyes one must first conquer the darkness and the fear it can bring.

Knowledge can be power, but until one understands the basic construction of power, and how mishandled it is, one can not become enlightened.  To sit in the sun all day, you will feel warm and light and at the end of the day have horrible sunburn, especially now that the ozone layer is toast.

I can perhaps accept that you don't feel fear, once in, but I think you may be that way only with a serious denial issue.  All is not well, you know it, but try to put lipstick on the pig thinking you can make things attractive.

Face the darkness, at least make an effort to understand the dark side.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #21867640 - 06/28/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I took 1 hour in nature too on the grass when you mentioned nature

nothing happened, is that a good or bad sign?

my mind is afraid of becoming nothing ^^


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21885672 - 07/01/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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once in a lifetime said:
no genuine teacher tells us others there is darkness in their hearts.




i'm not a teacher but i think everyone has darkness, or atleast blackness, which you need to take in light, that function is needed to gather anything i think. & light to express things and gather info from. i don't think it's necessarily that darkness is bad or light is good, lots of light will burn things to death, and darkness prolly helped a lot of slaves and such escape way back when or whatnot lol, that sorta thing. a purely white and bright thing would be oppressive and all denying, pure dark thing would be greedy and all consuming, i think everyone has a mix of both


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: Pope]
    #21889182 - 07/02/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Purely white makes us self-righteous in everything we do

Purely black makes us ignorant


Religion can also have that effect of making people self-righteous, they believe in God therefore they know the only truth.

Truth doesn't separate people, that is probably what this guy said
Truth makes you understand the oneness of all things and beings


"It's not the white side, it's not the black side, it's the interface" - mckenna

Without dark we would not know the light
We can deny we have a dark side, but then we are usually "pure white" - self righteous, and that's not good

There's no denial when you understand truth and live the truth, you understand you are not perfect as a human being, and that is not needed either, but you strive to do your best
Your soul is from God/source, but your actions fail to represent the divine love at times


Without our dark side we would not be balanced as human beings


That doesn't mean we should act out our dark side though, just be aware. Darkness is more useful if we can transcend it than if we live it. Then we can see we are no better than anyone else, we have made severe mistakes in our lives in order to learn.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21889200 - 07/02/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Merge black and white, and you get unity, oneness, humbleness

That's balance, the teacher, the enlightened/person on the path


Humbleness is being able to see your shadowside and see others as yourself
Without humbleness it is very hard to achieve right action


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