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how one knows if one is enlightened
    #21857409 - 06/25/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How do you know if you are enlightened?

When another says 'I am enlightened,'

You say, 'Yes-  Very much so!'

That is the basic way.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21857501 - 06/25/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: circastes]
    #21857543 - 06/25/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

We made it :smile:


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21859074 - 06/26/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If that helps you feel good :thumbup:


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: Kickle]
    #21859166 - 06/26/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

'you're already enlightened' - Bankei


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21861706 - 06/26/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I am more enlightened than I was in the past. A paradox, I know, since enlightenment is not dependent on time. But, that does not mean that I am so aware that I don't do stupid things anymore. :lol: I cut too much wood out of a doorframe yesterday when I was repairing a door closing mechanism. I marked the wrong side of the mount. I do not know if a fully enlightened being is perfect in the sense that [s]he no longer makes mistakes from failure to see a complete action from beginning to end. For example, fully enlightened beings still eat and poop. If, through no fault of their own the t-paper is thinner than usual and their finger pokes through when they're wiping their a-hole, and they get poo on their finger, is that still a statement of perfection? Or have they made a mistake, or is the mistake a teaching about unpredictability in phenomena, or is there no such thing as a mistake, mistakes being just the preference of the egoic-mind?

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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: Kickle]
    #21861860 - 06/26/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Kickle said:
If that helps you feel good :thumbup:




I like how you said that Kickle.

What is enlightenment? I once thought I was enlightened to only find it was my ego wanting to be the "most awaken" the "most aware" "the awakened one"... when in fact we all have the ability to be enlightened just by observing what is really going on in the World.

Demonic Experience = Enlightenment?
Divine Experience = Enlightenment?

How far should one go and why? What is it we seek through these sacred substances? I for one am searching for the most purest form of ME... I see the most purest form of me when on Psychedelics, I can see what lives inside. Something very good, also something very bad. Enlightenment to me.. is removing all evil impurities from the body, accepting the vessel you are currently in and being enlightened to me is seeing the good in this evil world we live in, this reality is hella influenced by demonic entities. I will just leave it at that. I'm probably just one of them kooks who believes in Reptilians running the world.... LOL. :robawet::wouldyoulookatthat::trollmove::fuckyeahdance::mygoditsfullofstars::ancientaliens:


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: EvilShaman] * 1
    #21862770 - 06/27/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fact is, unless you can first accept the evil satanic occult child sacrificing pedophile elite for what they are, you will never be even remotely enlightened. 

Never.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: LunarEclipse] * 1
    #21863057 - 06/27/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I guess that depends on your view of enlightenment. In India, enlightened beings are called Dwijas, which means "twice-born". That's referring to the fact that they have been born once to their mothers, and then they have "died" through the destruction of the individual self, and have then been spiritually "reborn" in unity with God. It's fine to say that under the surface we are all God, and all enlightened etc and on some level maybe that is true. But how many people have actually completed this process and are consciously one with God, having lost all identification with themselves as an individual? I think it's fair to say that although many want to achieve this, that few actually have at the moment.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: Kickle]
    #21863097 - 06/27/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Kickle said:
If that helps you feel good :thumbup:




Comforting things are always nice to the ego ;-P

I am not enlightened but by saying my neighbor is I reach that state too because then I can know who is enlightened, so now others think I'm enlightened and I feel power by that

More power feels good, else I feel powerless


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #21863157 - 06/27/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
Fact is, unless you can first accept the evil satanic occult child sacrificing pedophile elite for what they are, you will never be even remotely enlightened. 

Never.




Enlightenment might both be seeing your own shadow side, overcoming it (so it doesn't control you), and seeing other's shadow side

Society wouldn't be pleasant to look at to an enlightened person, rottenness everywhere, so it is amazing that so many wish to be enlightened

Every control system we got is usually rotten in some parts. People are convicted daily all over the world for crimes without victims, to death sentence (US and Indonesia).

People got convicted here 10 times in a row for child molesting, but then it was just a bad state official that had gone mad, all 10 cases were wrong. One of the dads hung himself in jail due to the false accusations. The children were permanently removed from their homes.

Cops kill people daily, young kids etc.

Maybe they should wish to know themselves instead and improve upon society, our culture, politics instead

The more you look at our culture the more rotten it becomes, it must be more pleasant not to look at it at times.. Don't watch tv


Tv instils fear in people, newspapers do too, fear , frustration, and it stays in your subconscious for a long while..
Maybe those running those tv networks and newspaper groups are part of that evil satanic cult / are not themselves

They sell sex,murder,rape daily and people feed off it


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21863279 - 06/27/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

there are only essentially two states of existence - yet this is only in appearance; in reality all is one.

2 quotes for you lovely beings:

1, is something beloved vivekananda said - not so much a quote,

why deny the feeling of liberation to others? 


in other words, no one who is aware of the light that is everything and everywhere would ever say to someone

that they would fail, fall, or they are already lost. . . or anything like that.


removing that entirely, and it's very possible to do, is a very good aid for spiritual life.



the other is - something ramana said - there is no impediment to meditation - the very thought that there is an impediment is the only impediment.


in other words, it is simplicity.






you are light, and free - forever, never bound.  nothing in the universe could ever bind you, for you are light.



this is true of all, equally.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21863294 - 06/27/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

True, but I didn't judge in what I wrote, I just wrote cold facts :-)

You may not like it, but it is still true


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21863299 - 06/27/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

no. . . not really.  it is a story told.


more or less, a fantasy.


in truth, the universe is one.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #21863307 - 06/27/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There was no denial there that the rapists, murders were one with me in what I wrote

But it seems you don't like dry facts, you only like honeymoon good news?

Enlightenment must also be knowing what man does of bad things, even if there is no good or bad
When we are alive there is good or bad to the heart, even if there is 'no good or bad from a top view'

Enlightenment is also the hurting in the heart from seeing the insanity of society, and accepting it - like the guy said


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21863313 - 06/27/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

your entire message


seems to be centered around the idea 'You're not enlightened'


my entire message is saying - you are light.


i'm very glad and grateful for the infinite light - that is you.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21863326 - 06/27/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Enlightenment is the natural state...

But there are no rules for an enlightened person, you are the one that seem to impose rules

Neither did I claim I was enlightened, or that others were not


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: once in a lifetime] * 1
    #21863330 - 06/27/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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something ramana said - there is no impediment to meditation - the very thought that there is an impediment is the only impediment.




This may be true, and may help a practitioner a certain level, but how much does it help on a practical level? Who here can actually reach Samadhi (or a similar state) on demand, without the use of drugs? Who here has cleansed so much of their karma that they are free from the incarnation cycle?


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: lessismore]
    #21863334 - 06/27/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

humanity does indeed need rules


destroying life on the scale we have been so doing is not acceptable.


this does not mean we lose anything - rather we gain everything.


living in harmony with nature is the most fulfilling life.


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Re: how one knows if one is enlightened [Re: PocketLady]
    #21863336 - 06/27/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

to understand there is no impediment is to reach the real life very soon.


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